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Hue

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After a bender at my old school, I took advantage of one of the many numbers I got from attempting BMOC game.

Info on opening, getting her number, and texting her is girl #5 / Venezuela found here.

I text her to meet up, proposing that we meet at my house, and walk to the restaurant I work. It was raining just slightly when I see her standing at the carport below my apartment.

I hug her, say it's great to see her, then used the Tool's advise and asked, "what trouble have you gotten into today?", but it didn't land, she did not have a positive reaction. Not gonna lie, I think that my brain wasn't fully recovered from the bender still.. the intro was bordering awkward because of our unfamiliarity with eachother, my sub par memory from all the drinking that night, and stepping foot in cliche topics. Even now, I'm having a harder time than usual thinking about specific things we talked about.

We went to the same school so the walk over actually was just us talking about the our old school. She has since graduated, and it gave me a similar angle to her, saying I earned my "liberal arts degree" when I was there. She said something about how she was "a little basic", and I said "oh so only part of you is a little basic, the rest of you is a bad bitch?" and she accepted the sexual frame.



Thankfully, I realized my problems quickly and recovered, we get into my restaurant (I need to stop going here. Some of my coworkers are getting weirded out about by the player vibe, and if regulars start catching on that could be wack), and sit down. She was awkward about me trying to sit at the same booth, so I put my jacket on the table and used the bathroom, then returned to sit next to her.

I have her look at the margs, but we end up ordering my favorite one. I wasn't thinking or I would have led that, but that's very minor so no matter. I deep dived her on jobs she's had, jobs she has now, how it compares, when she realized that she was going to take that path, and realized I had asked her about some of these things during our initial conversation - sketchy. Apparently I had already asked her about her childhood.. didn't remember that at all.

Our lives and reflections of our old school were essentially intertwined with many of the topics the whole time, but as the conversation continued they became less and less basic topics. I actually ended up telling her more than most girls about why I left, but not every reason (psych program, different worldviews, my friends were mostly older and dropped out or graduated). One deeper note was the different worldviews of our old school and our current city, it helped me quite a bit because it made me seem more experienced with life that her since she agreed our old school wasn't "reality".



There was LOTS of push and pull, because I wasn't on top of my shit. Any and every time I saw a window to get her more attracted to me / be more flirty I took it, since multiple times I wasn't oh so calibrated. I'm getting a lot better at coming back with something witty / twisting a girls words to sexually frame (a lot of times she'd be drop jaw and then start laughing). Also danced between her being a basic bitch and a bad bitch quite a bit.

During what would have been an awkward note I again took Tool's advise and said something about her being "funny and goofy", and being a cool girl but holding something back. She said "what do you mean?" and I said something not too calibrated like "I guess you could say that about a lot of people.. I'm still figuring out how your brain ticks I guess :) " but she seemed to respond well anyways. After this I noticed she was looking at my lips more, so things were going well. She's a smart girl. I wonder how much she was giving me passes, or if my body language frame kept me in check despite my not so great dialogue.



Then I finished the date after she had said something about an Uber, because she's not familiar with Uber. I used that as a escalation window and said "the night is still young, what do you say we keep going?" and then we Ubered back to my place for a drink.

Made small talk with the Uber driver, then we got out and into my house. All smiles right before walking in the door.

We get in, I tell her where to put her shoes, and hit the bathroom. Then pour our drinks as she looks around the living room / kitchen making comments on the place. She's talking about how comfy the couch is and I say she's right next to the spot where "my ass has grooved in nicely", and not to steal my seat.



I sit down right next to her, and ask her what kind of music she likes as I turn on some music. I put on some Chainsmoker's song, then we chat about something or other, before saying something about how people should do as the feel and using Franco's glass drink again (big fan of this tactic, putting down her glass, then mine, then manhandle kiss).

We kiss a bit then I back off. Then we start to make out again, and I kiss her neck. VERY sensual (bingo). She's quickly moaning at me biting her ears and neck. I flip her on top of me and she grinds her petite body on me. I tried to start sucking her tits here and she goes "Hueman!" and doesn't want me to. A bit after I flip her so that I'm over her and thus have more control. I keep kissing her neck and she says "I'm too good at this" and I said "what does that mean?" and keep going. I started rubbing her crotch with my leg while doing it and she got more and more turned on. She also said "I need more dates before that" when I tried to get her other shirt off, and I just said "Oh yea?" and continued to kiss her neck. Kind of like, I'm gonna fuck you, playing dumb approach.

This sort of thing goes on a long while and I was grabbing her ass a lot, got her 1st shirt off by saying "it's too hot in here for this", and then we decided there wasn't enough room on the couch, an excuse I've seen work 3 times now to move things upstairs.

I carry her upstairs since she's pretty little, and she's clearly really turned on by this. On the way up she says "We're not having sex", and I said "I never said anything about that"

I pin her on my door and start making out with her, and it knocks over my guitar, which I hadn't mentioned yet.. wonder if this helped. I get her on my bed and we start doing everything we were before, but now I manage to get her shirt off around the same time as mine.. this can work wonders once she feels your skin and body against hers.

At one point she says, "this is a lot", and I look deep in her eyes and give her a yes ladder, smiling:
Me: Venezuela, do you like me?
Her: Yes.. do you like me?
Me: I do.. have you been enjoying this?
Her: Yes
Me: Are you having fun with this right now?
Her: Yes
Me: *continues to make out and kiss her neck*

Afterwards I knew I needed to focus on the pussy, this whole time my hands had been spent on her body, not giving enough attention to her legs other than reaching below her pants to grab her ass. I move my hands up and down her legs, inside and outside. I would push inside until right before it seemed she was gonna pull off, then go outside, the move back inside while slowly working up her leg and continuing this till she was breathing like crazy, and started up a kneading motion around her pussy and above her pussy.



On the couch I had tried moving her hand on my dick but she didn't continue, and this is where I made the final blow to her LMR.

Knowing that she know must want me to finger the shit out of her, I make her wait just a little bit longer by placing her hand on my dick. She starts tearing off my pants, giving me a go ahead to take hers off. So she started rubbing my dick as I started rubbing her pussy, but I needed to use her making contact with my dick as a green light to make direct contact with her pussy.

Once I started, she told me she was on her period. I replied, "And you think I care?", and kept going. (Later to find she just started it. I saw no blood) She let it happen, and once her pants were off, I kept taking my pants off. Accidentally, my underwear came off with my pants, thank god, and my dick was out. She started giving me a handy, and I started playing with her pussy. She was moaning hard, and then told me that she wasn't on birth control, a huge green light to get a fucking condom on.

I throw one on and enter her. Missionary --> Doggy --> Cowgirl. I told her I was about to come, and she seemed to also be about to, and she freaked for a quick sec like "Not inside me!" and pulled me out. Odd, I came inside the condom, right outside her pussy lol.

We cuddle and talk, I deep dive a little bit, and chase frame since the whole time I never said anything about us having sex, she did. Then we eventually start hooking up again, and I have her rub her pussy on my dick, which she's never done before prior to entering. She doesn't wanna do it unless I have a condom on, so I slip one on and have her rub until entering her. We started slow and built it into some really good sexual chemistry, and she came.

Then I fuck her in adapted missionary for a while until coming inside her (inside the condom of course). When I told her that she says that I could have came in her mouth instead (man do I like this girl).

After that we talk for a long time and get to know eachother even better, eventually go downstairs, watch Shameless for a bit, start hooking up again, go back upstairs, she blows me (very well), and we fuck again. I ask her if she's ever done a certain type of cowgirl, we try it, then try reverse cowgirl (she'd never done either), and I teach her. But, I wasn't fully up, and she wasn't as wet as she was earlier so we say fuck it, we've had our fun.. not the best ending.

Then we talk, cuddle, make out, watch shameless, and I can't put my finger on why, but my frame was very off at the end.

I felt like I was saying a lot of the same things depending on the emotion of her words, and giving little substance in my answers.



Eventually I tell her she's free to go at anytime, and we have a frame battle as to whether I'm kicking her out or not. I said I'm not, but you have work so you're free to head whenever and she agrees to leave. Right at the end I kiss her passionately before turning her a bit more towards the door. She goes "you are kicking me out! the way you're pushing me at the door!" and I laugh and say "there's also a window right there if you'd like!" and she smiles and turns back towards the door. I kiss her one last time, and ask if she's gonna be able to find it to her car, not get mugged (jokes), and that I'll talk to her later.




Still thinking about fucking her in cowgirl. Learning how to flex my cock more has helped me wonders, she was really into it. Definitely finna hit again, but I feel like she wants something like BF, where I want FB, and she knows this. We'll see what happens.

Lastly, for the first time I felt guilt about seducing her, idk what's with my mindset right now.
Normally I'd just be patting myself on the back - she's a cute, petite, college grad that I just fucked on the first date. Wtf me.


Peace peace

Hueman
 

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Space Monkey
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Hueman said:
Lastly, for the first time I felt guilt about seducing her, idk what's with my mindset right now. Normally I'd just be patting myself on the back - she's a cute, petite, college grad that I just fucked on the first date. Wtf me.
She's very lucky to have found someone like you to give her that experience... really, you've done her favour.
 

Hue

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She's very lucky to have found someone like you to give her that experience... really, you've done her favour.

That's the mentality GC teaches, just not one I've totally internalized quite yet.

I think that my odd feeling at the end of the night may have been cognitive dissonance, and partially due to the fact that my successes, while still my actions, were copy and pasted tactics from Chase, Franco, Tool, Richard, Hector, and Pretty Decent who have provided tons of information in articles, threads, and LR's.. at times.

The lack of complete originality made me appreciate the lay less.. but that stirs up a whole nother discussion.

Probably being slightly too hard on myself.


Thanks though, I think you're right.

Hueman
 

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Space Monkey
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Hueman said:
That's the mentality GC teaches, just not one I've totally internalized quite yet.
It's the inner game me lad! Having a healthy mindset helps you avoid self sabotage, guilt derived from social conditioning or subconscious thought processes you're not even aware of yet.

Hueman said:
I think that my odd feeling at the end of the night may have been cognitive dissonance, and partially due to the fact that my successes, while still my actions, were copy and pasted tactics from Chase, Franco, Tool, Richard, Hector, and Pretty Decent who have provided tons of information in articles, threads, and LR's.. at times.
That's proof the advice provided by GirlsChase.com is sound and an assurance for beginners or intermediates who haven't fully developed their skills or identity, that they can still have success if they follow the principals.

Once you become "conscious competent" you can put a stronger emphasis on experimentation and start deviating from the expert, and discover what uniquely works for you.

Hueman said:
The lack of complete originality made me appreciate the lay less.. but that stirs up a whole nother discussion. Probably being slightly too hard on myself.
These reports need not merely be a recounting of events, they're probably most effective if they're a learning experience for both the reader and the author.

Do you think perhaps on a subconscious level, you feel you didn't deserve to have sex with this person?
 

Hue

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guilt derived from social conditioning or subconscious thought processes you're not even aware of yet.

I'm thinking that this feeling (fleeting, now) comes from a body of water in my subconscious that I'm yet to dive into yet, from social conditioning.

Do you think perhaps on a subconscious level, you feel you didn't deserve to have sex with this person?

Yea, that's certainly a possibility.

Like, if you use cheat codes in a video game to win, you're not actually that good at the game.

Then again, she certainly seemed to think I deserved to fuck her, and a few specific lines here and there are minor in the grand scheme of things.

Once you become "conscious competent" you can put a stronger emphasis on experimentation and start deviating from the expert, and discover what uniquely works for you.

Is being conscious competent essentially having the capacity to steer one's mindsets / overcome social condiitioning, ego, and the emotions that create self sabotage?

I have felt my mind about to lurk into fear as of recent, and been able to turn away from it, knowing that it's only going to inhibit my successes. So I'm sure I can apply this to other parts of the subconscious once I become more familiar with my own triggers / mental trajectory.


Recognizing this self criticism means it's time to make more of my own tactics, rather than rely on specific moves/lines from the elders.

I should note that, I come up with shit on the fly way more than I used to, some of their's I just tend to lean on. Shit on the fly is obviously way more natural and fun, and the "copy + paste" feels mechanical.

Reading over this now that I've let my mind and body rest a bit.. I know I'm still in the right path, and this will motivate me to push myself even further as the weeks continue. Normally I keep this shit in my journal and wrestle with it till I figure it out.


I appreciate the feedback my man, wise words.

Hueman
 

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Space Monkey
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Hueman said:
Then again, she certainly seemed to think I deserved to fuck her, and a few specific lines here and there are minor in the grand scheme of things.
Sometimes, despite what society may try to delude you, you've just got to believe girls want to fuck regardless of the circumstances.

I once had a feeling of guilt after having sex with a girl because I deliberately did everything wrong just to see if she'd still fuck me... and she did. But maybe that's a story for another time.

In my latest lay report (which is so crazy it could be a work of fiction), I was asked "Did you ever wonder if there was anything fucked up with this girl?" because of the circumstances it unfolded.

And no, I didn't. I just accept sometimes, certain girls want to get laid, no strings attached, for no other reason than they enjoy sex or want an experience.

Hueman said:
Is being conscious competent essentially having the capacity to steer one's mindsets / overcome social condiitioning, ego, and the emotions that create self sabotage?
In a sense yes, it's the next step above "conscious incompetence" which is doing the wrong things, but you're aware you're of what you're doing wrong.

Then "conscious competence" is doing the right things and you're also aware of what you're doing right, so when you get to this level you can fine tune yourself to evolve into "unconscious competence" or "mastery".

Hueman said:
I appreciate the feedback my man, wise words.
Thanks! Although, I'm still very much a learner so providing feedback reinforces what I've learned and experienced thus far.
 
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Once you become "conscious competent" you can put a stronger emphasis on experimentation and start deviating from the expert, and discover what uniquely works for you.

Is being conscious competent essentially having the capacity to steer one's mindsets / overcome social condiitioning, ego, and the emotions that create self sabotage?
.


Recognizing this self criticism means it's time to make more of my own tactics, rather than rely on specific moves/lines from the elders.

I should note that, I come up with shit on the fly way more than I used to, some of their's I just tend to lean on. Shit on the fly is obviously way more natural and fun, and the "copy + paste" feels mechanical.

Hueman

Hey Hueman congrats on the lay :). Regarding the mechanical feeling and feeling like you don't deserve the girl. I understand where your coming from. Following all the stuff girlschase says feels mechanical and not like "you" but recognizing that you are feeling mechanical is key to the next step just like Explosive Results said. From here you will start to deviate and you will fuck around and find your own way of doing things because you are aware of what you are doing. The feeling of not deserving a girl will go away once you get to that experimentation and begin infusing "yourself" into those interactions.
 
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