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Chrance

Cro-Magnon Man
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On Saturday (01/04/2020), I went out with the following goals:
(1) Practice warm up lines
(2) Approach 20 sets
(3) Slow down my voice

I started out at a bar, the type that is great for warming up. Right away I ran into a pua I had met before (tall white dude), and actually winged with incidentally months ago since we were both trying to pull girls from the same set. He was out with another pua I had also met before (boisterous hispanic guy). I wasn't aware these two pua's were buddies. I go out pretty much every weekend, generally 3 times a week. These are one of the few players I know that actually know what the hell they are doing and aren't just winging it. I don't participate in any pua groups or lairs or anything so maybe that's why it makes me excited to see people that know what they're doing. Also, these two guys are a lot better than me at getting babes, without a doubt (i've seen them go to work); but they don't know this, since every time they've ran into me I was in a good set, helping them pull, or something like that. We chatted, exchanged contact information, then decided to help each other out.

Due to these two pua's presence I felt very motivated to approach solidly, so immediately I went to work and approached a girl standing by the bar, with "Hey, what's up. Your shirt is actually pretty cool. What's going on with you?" we chatted a bit, then the conversation fizzled out so I left the set.

I went with the two pua's to another club. This club was dead, so we waited around for it to fill up. If I were alone (I pretty much always go solo) then I would have left to another place. However, I had never been to this club before, and I didn't want to throw away the opportunity to wing with guys that actually know what they're doing, so I stuck around. Eventually it filled up. I approached two more sets, both of which fizzled out. Then the tall white pua and I left to a third club.

At the third club I approached a two-set who were standing in the dance floor; this set didn't go well, it looked like they didn't want to be bothered, so I left. Then I approached another two-set, who were standing by the dance floor, with a simple: "Hey, how are you guys doing tonight?" She responded positively to me immediately. I asked her "What brings you guys out here tonight?" and other basic questions, then we started dancing together. I took her to the bar, got her a drink, then we went downstairs to another floor, danced some more. I brought up in conversation another bar, then asked if she had ever been there. "No", she said. After 30 minutes of us dancing and talking, I went for a kiss and landed it, but she didn't seem to content or satisfied with it; so I pulled back and kept dancing. During this time I started to get doubts about her, because I realized I wasn't all that into her. This may seem strange, since we had been chatting for 30 minutes, but I think because we were dancing together so quickly I got so caught up in all of the movements that I didn't really consider how attracted to her I actually was - which truthfully I was not that much at all; there was something about her that was weird to me.

Regardless, I pulled her out of the club. As I was getting her out of the club she said, "where are we going?". "To the other bar," I said. Then once we left, I took her to my car. I wanted to grab some gum first before going to the other club. However, in the car together (the car is parked in a garage) was where I planned on fucking her (this is my current go-to sex location for a SNL). But as we were sitting together in the back of the car, listening to music on my phone, I realized that I had pulled this girl too soon, since there wasn't enough physical comfort between us yet and I really didn't want to fuck her at all after seeing her outside of the club. So instead of moving things forward, I dropped her off outside, called it a night and went home (it was already closing time at this point).

I should have left this girl sooner. I think I may have been too concerned with getting into a set, rather than approaching a babe I really wanted to bang. I think being around those two pua's influenced me to make this dumb choice in order to impress them. Sounds stupid but its true; I can't say I never make mistakes.

N.B.
Thinking about things more, I'm not entirely sure how good those two pua's actually are. Maybe I shouldn't really care, since I am not them after all.
 

theta14

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At the third club I approached a two-set who were standing in the dance floor; this set didn't go well, it looked like they didn't want to be bothered, so I left.
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How did you approach the two-set?
 

Chrance

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I said “hey what’s up. You guys look adorable together. What’s going on?”
We talked a little bit, but I got this feeling they just wanted to dance together. It was a very frantic situation, since we were in the center of the dance floor. I probably could have turned it around if I acted differently or was more persistent. Hard to tell with that one. It was a clear verbal rejection, but a feeling I got that led me to eject
 

theta14

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I said “hey what’s up. You guys look adorable together. What’s going on?”
This article about dance floor game will probably do you some good if that's what you wanna get good at: https://www.girlschase.com/content/ultimate-get-girls-dance-floors-guide-targeting

Me personally, I wouldn't have said that since it was in the middle of the dance floor. Could what you have said worked? it's possible but I would have rather used a nonverbal/dominant frame: dance closely to them without being too obvious (could also get you preselection), assess for an indicator of interest, establish eye contact with the "Come on... I know you want me" facial expression chase discussed, and motion one of them over to you (possibly disarm a cock block by confidently and clearly saying "I'm only gonna steal your friend for one dance" haha). It helps to dress well, have good posture, and be in shape in any club environment.

Here's the facial expression article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/7-facial-expressions-drive-women-wild
 

Fuck This

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If you are going out 3x a week you should have plenty of data points for what sort of places/events work for you. Or are you still trying to figure it out? If you hit 150 clubs/bars a year there has to be some repeatable signs that certain places work no?
 

Chrance

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This article about dance floor game will probably do you some good if that's what you wanna get good at: https://www.girlschase.com/content/ultimate-get-girls-dance-floors-guide-targeting

Me personally, I wouldn't have said that since it was in the middle of the dance floor. Could what you have said worked? it's possible but I would have rather used a nonverbal/dominant frame: dance closely to them without being too obvious (could also get you preselection), assess for an indicator of interest, establish eye contact with the "Come on... I know you want me" facial expression chase discussed, and motion one of them over to you (possibly disarm a cock block by confidently and clearly saying "I'm only gonna steal your friend for one dance" haha). It helps to dress well, have good posture, and be in shape in any club environment.

Here's the facial expression article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/7-facial-expressions-drive-women-wild

I usually open first on the dance floor then gauge from there, for better or worse lol. My dance moves suck so I avoid relying on them. It’s a hole in my game for sure. But with these girls it’s possible that if I had brought something more stimulating to the table then the tides would’ve turned more easily. Thanks for the link
 

Chrance

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If you are going out 3x a week you should have plenty of data points for what sort of places/events work for you. Or are you still trying to figure it out? If you hit 150 clubs/bars a year there has to be some repeatable signs that certain places work no?
No, I have a clear idea of what venues are good or not in my city. There are only a few I haven’t visited yet. This place in particular, due to its music, crowd and design, always psychs me out. It’s an older crowd, a lot of the guys there are rougher and crazier, and if you leave you cannot get back in without paying again. All of this gets into my head, despite me being aware that there are in fact babes available
 
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