FR FR Bastion: Texting Reports and Tips

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Hahaha, I've had this happen plenty of times. The only way to prevent her confessions, except for her just wanting you so bad, of course, is to set discretion frames. When the boyfriend comes up, you say

- "Sounds serious!"
- "Good, I'm great at being a dirty little secret."
- "Do you think I'm trying to replace him?"
- "That's cool, I'm not trying to replace anyone."

I've even pulled out this one before

- "Awesome, we can have threesomes!"

^Now, I only did this with a girl I already knew/set strong sexual frames with. She went along with it and I PROBABLY could have escalated that night, but for reputation management, avoided the escalation.

Nothing is impossible, however. Try fringe stuff; it might just work.

 

[Smith]

This is from a girl I've been on two dates with. First date was a coffee date. Invited her home but failed to kiss close because I hesitated. Second date she invited me over before I left for my trip, and her friends were there, so kinda bad logistics on my part. I knew it might've happened but didn't insist her to come over instead.
Anyway, I'm away on a trip for a week, and got a text from her 3 days later after our date while I'm away.

I usually don't like text conversations that don't lead to me setting up dates, so I wasn't confident about where this text conversation is gonna lead to since I'm out of town, but now I think about it, I could have proposed a date next week...sigh silly me!

Her: "Hey smith, How's your holiday so far? sadly I'm not going to out of town this Easter! but life is still good! haha
Me: "Mine's good! enjoying life even if it gives you lemon huh! I like that 10 points for u!
Her: "haha yup definitely have to enjoy, since we hardly get holidays nowadays! If I make lemon juice with that lemon, will I get another 10 points? lol
Me: "I'm sure we can do better than lemon juice. we were so good in the kitchen haha causing any trouble tonight?"
Her: "I don't normally cause trouble sounds like you're the one causing trouble huh?"
Me: "But when u do, the world goes wild right? oh I like a bit of trouble and it seems like she's found me too!"

No reply!
Maybe I fucked up my last text. Maybe it's kinda incongruent with our previous interaction, but I don't think it's THAT incongruent! And it seems pretty innocent now that I read it. Did I come off a little bit too strong for her? Btw, this girl seems inexperienced and gets nervous when I use some sexual frames lol

About 14 hours later. I decided to salvage this lol and if she replies, I will try to set up for a date on Sunday when I get back.
Me: "hmm so why aren't u guys out of town? No one wants to drive? =p"

Any advice on this one?

 

[Whizzy]

Generally as a rule of thumb, salvage texts are to be avoided. Instead wait a few days and start a new conversation and completely ignore the mess up from before

 

[Smith]

Thanks!
Lesson learned! haha! Any idea what I might have done wrong though?

 

[Whizzy]

Her replies in general sounded laid back and yours sounded very high energy, even forced. Try to tone it down a bit and since you're gone you have better things to do than text her anyways!

 

[The Marksman]

I've had a recent experiment going on with an ex who texted me. She was in a relationship, living with her boyfriend and two dogs at the time when she first texted me, So I decided to use my frame as the ex to my advantage. Being the ex, no matter what I say, I'm the ex, so if I come of too dick-ish, who cares, because I'm the ex and "Guess that's why I left him in the first place" so there's no real need to be subtle or nuances here. That coupled with the fact that while we were together this girl was one hell of a freak, and her at the time boyfriend (Since the start of this experiment they had broken up, go figure lol ) was clearly her settling for safety. The pre-game to all of this is that she texted me saying hi how are you haven't talked to you in a while blah blah. This tells me she's bored. I escalate the conversation slowly and at some point, when what she misses about us comes up and she asks me what I miss, I tell her that this is a conversation best had not over text. She calls, I ignore the call, She texts asking why we can't text about it, and that it must be important. I tell her I don't want what I have to say in writing while she still has a boyfriend, she calls again, I ignore it. she texts and I say look, it's good, it's definitely what you miss and DEFINITELY what you're lacking in your relationship right now, clearly your unhappy otherwise you wouldn't be contacting me. Hit me up when you're single. and I ignore all other contact until one day, about 2 weeks later:

Megan: What's the sushi place you like on Washington? And any other sushi suggestions in Saint Louis?
Me: Mizu sushi, i wouldnt recomment anywhere else lol
Me: Are you taking your boyfriend there?...
Megan: I'm just craving sushi. Have been for weeks.
Megan: there's a place in grand calle Cafe Moshi. It's super close to our house but no one i know has been there. Figured i would ask you.
Megan: *Mochi

After she says I'm craving sushi, and doesn't respond to the bf inquiry, I assume she's full of shit. So I ignore her texts that follow. She still has the BF, and I communicate that I'm still not interested. She texts me two days later

Megan: You woulndn't happen to know anyone who is moving back to saint louis and looking for a roommate would ya?
Me: me lol
Megan: Haha i kinda meant a girl but umm i will be moving ASAP so i was just wondering.
Me: Not living with your boyfriend anymore?
Megan: Not with my ex boyfriend at all
Me: Thought he was the love of your life?
Megan: Nice. Thanks for the support. Way to throw that one in my face. I thought he was. He might be idk but we decided that the time isn't right.
Me: Calm down and stop being dramatic with me, this was everything you said to me less than a month ago and you were very high brow about it so excuse me for asking about the sudden distaste.
Megan: i wasn't being dramatic i was being sarcastic. Just read it. Yeah it comes off that way. Sorry. I know what i said. I think i was trying to convince myself everything was fine. oh well life goes on and I gotta go on with it.
Me: True enough. Well chance to restart, workout to give yourself a chemical confidence boost after this, get yourself feeling great about where you are in life and push forward, which is the only direction.
Working out fixes everything
Megan: You calling me fat?
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What is shittest.com.

Me: Are you forreal? Working out releases chemicals that literally make you feel better. You should know that, you used to work out a lot. And i haven't seen a picture of you in forever so i wouldn't know anyway
Megan: Haha I'm kidding. i know I'm actually excited. Joe wasn't one for like active things. He kinda brought me down. I'm playing volleyball tomorrow night. Monday is supposed to be nice I'm gonna go hiking
Megan: And trust me you don't want to see a picture of me now. No bueno
Me: sounds like the monogamous life has made you put on a few, which isn’t a big deal. Get back to being active and working out a few days a week and you'll be back to the old you in no time as long as you stay committed.
Me: Maybe if you get that right body back we can go out for drinks one night when i get back to stl
*Tight
Megan: What's with all the fitness talk? You a personal trainer or something now?

Here I'm setting up the frame to let her know that I take being in shape seriously, which I do, but that I also won't have sex with her while she is out of shape. Not that I don't want to fuck her, but not while she has an extra 40 hanging around. Which is what follows

Me: I work out 3 days a week just to stay in shape, personal health has always been important to me. You forget a managed a rec center? lol
Megan: Haha that definitely made it sound like you would only get drinks with me if I was skinny. Haha I know that’s not what you meant tho. At least I hope not. Yeah im ready to focus on me. I actually love working out. Just didn’t have the time when I was taking care of a house and a bf and two dogs
Me: I’ll get drinks with you if you’re not skinny but nothing more lol
Megan: haha oh you’re just full of them today aren’t ya?! I wasn’t skinny when you were banging me. So ha!
Me: I would guess skinnier than you are now lol
Me: I would just like to have a fit, busty secretary on me again (; lol
Megan: yeah? That was your favorite wasn’t it?
Me: You already know that answer
Megan: haha I bought fake glasses and everything. Geez
Me: you did lol so hit that gym, get your confidence oh and feel good to get out of this, get looking realllll healthy and sexy again so you can tie that white top up tighter than before and then you know the rest(;
Megan: well who says I’m gonna settle for you If I look that good lol

Clearly being in a relationship, and the comforts that come with settling have made her insecure. She also loves to shit test. However, being in the ex frame, not only can I ignore those shit tests somewhat, I can disqualify them. I'm the ex, that means been there, done that, nice try. Not only that, since we've already slept together, I can take the path of brute honesty without being offensive.

Me: maybe you should worry about getting there first lol
Megan: yep. Well thanks for the motivation. Anyways how’s life?
Me: same old same old. Gearing up to graduate and come home
Megan : so when did you get a puppy?
Me: about a month ago I think
Megan: aww puppy. I didn’t think you were a dog guy?
Me: I definitely am, she follows instructions perfectly
Megan: well that’s good. She a shepard mix?
Me: purebred german
Megan: awesome. I have two pits. Best dogs ever.
Megan: how’s the house hunting going?
Me: it’s not right now lol
Megan: me either. Its hard finding pitbull friendly places to rent
Me: hopefully a well trained shepherd wont be hard
Megan: I saw lots of places that don’t allow aggressive breeds and shepherds are on that list. I would aske before you go look
Me: yeah

While this is a cool story and all, it has nothing to do with her losing weight so I can fuck her, or me fucking her. So I ignore where this is going. Time to start conditioning her. Over the next couple weeks, she'd text me every couple days with bullshit, I would one word respond sometimes and sometimes not respond at all. If it doesn't to do with you coming here and banging me or me coming there and banging you then I'm not interested. Eventually, we get to a line a conversation that made me laugh my ass off, because she's starting to comply from 3 and a half hours away. This girl hasn't even physically seen me in a couple years.

Megan: I made a list of all the things I want to accomplish before 2015. Its way too long. Wonder how many I can do.
Me : what’s the top 3 things?
Megan: reach my goal weight. Get back into volleyball shape. Get back on stage.
Me: gotcha
Me: what’s your goal weight?
Megan: im not telling you!
Me : suit yourself
Megan: I’m 5’8 I know I’m never gonna be 120lbs. I’ve accepted that. I probably need to lose like 40lbs to be where I want to be.
Me: you should add ten more pounds in case you get close and decide that its close enough and come up short
Its easy to say im close enough but if you add ten you’ll get there no matter what, sounds silly but it works
Megan: I’m starting to think you think I need to lose weight. Haha yeah im sure you are right tho
Me: we both know you do, but we also both know its better for you in the long run
Megan: yeah I guess
Me: no you know.
Megan: fine I know.
Megan: I just want to be happy
Me: so get to work and make it happen, only you can do that and you know that so make the change and get it
Megan: I’m ready. Had a salad for dinner and stopped when I was full, just passed up ice cream too.
Me: Glad to hear that. Keep it going and make it happen and you’ll be where you want in no time.
Me: I better get an accoumplishment pic of you in the secretary outfit when you get there(; lol
Megan: haha maybe
Me: maybe? Lol
Megan: Yes maybe. Who knows if I get all sexy again maybe ill get a super sexy boyfriend
Me: or maybe he’ll suck in bed and you’ll get bored again
Me: why are you playing anyway? We both want multiple nights with each other again and we both know it
Megan: oh we do do we?
Me: yes
Me: do you really disagree?
Megan : you’re on my top three
Me: That’s a funny way of saying I’m number 1
Megan: ummmm my memory is a little hazy I guess
Me: clearly
Megan: well its not like im your number 1 so you don’t have to be mine
Me: funny
Megan: why is that funny?
Me: why is it not?
Megan: I’ m 200% sure I’m not even in your top five Marksman. You need to accept the silver
Me: lol k feel how ever you want about it
Megan: be honest where am I on your list
Me: why do you wanna know? Lol
Megan: because I’m curious
And You’ve peaked my interest
Me: lol good
Megan: so you gonna tell me or not
Me: I will
Megan: so tell me then

She's hooked, time to blue ball her. Give and take, she needs to know that I'm still in charge and not really invested and can yank the rug whenever I feel the need. She needs to keep working and guessing at what I want. A couple days later and things tart back up again. I check in and see how she's keeping up with her weight loss compliance. She's still hungry for an answer on the list.

Megan: just got tipped $20 for an eyewire repair at work? We don’t even charge for that. And I told him I couldn’t accept it. but he said go buy yourself a drink. My weekend is looking up?!
Me: sounds that way lol
Me: working out today?
Megan: yep volleyball tonight
Megan: for two hours
Me: good girl lol
Megan: Thanks? Going grocery shopping after work too. Making healthy choices oh and I think I found a place to live. Woot woot. I forgot how nice being single is.
Megan: you still haven’t told me where I am on the list mister
Me: for sure lol
Megan: I’m not expecting much so I promise you wont offend me
Me: well where you were and where you could be on that list are two very different things
Megan: don’t beat around the bush ill tell you where you really were on mine
Me: so tell me lol
Megan: nope you first
Me: no deal
Megan: fine ill go. You were second
Me: interesting lol
Megan: ok your turn
Megan: and joe was not number one if that’s what you’re wondering
Me: you didn’t have to tell me that I already knew it lol that was obvious
Megan: ok well you’re up
Megan: wow you have a funny way of not telling me when I already told you. Like I said Marksman you cannot offend me

The thirst is so real now since she is begging me for answers. L.O.L

Me: 3rd
Megan: that’s pretty good for your list im sure. im ok with that
Me: has potential to go up though lol
Megan: haha always room for improvement
Me: just need a little outfit and some time
Megan: haha

Time to cut out for a while. She got what she wanted finally, I want her to think about what she needs to do to improve herself on that list and not keep talking about it. I let things sit for about a week, radio silence. At the end of that week this conversation happens, clearly she is doubting her fitness goals after her visit, which probably means that she is not seeing result fast enough and is either A making excuses or that B her doctor actually told her this and she is conflicted between what she needs to do and wants to do. Time to give her some direction.

Megan: I hate doctors offices
Me: what now
Megan: what do you mean what now? I had blood tests don’t a couple weeks ago and I think he wants more tests done. We found out I have pretty serious vitamin d deficiency but he is questioning whether or not I have hypothyroidism
Me: gotcha, no fun
Megan: not even a little
Megan: haha! You will never guess what my doctor just told me
Me: what lol
Megan: that im not eating enough. My body is going into starvation mode and that’s why I can’t lose weight
Me: makes sense
Me: work out today?
Megan: haha just got done
Me: nice lol
Megan: its official I have a place to live
Me: congrats lol
Megan: haha thanks
Me: when are we breaking it in?
Megan: when am I mobbing in or when am I having sex in it?
Me: both
Megan: moving in asap, sex idk. Ive sworn off men butyou never know
Me: like you would really swear me off if I was there
Megan: mighty confident aren’t we?
Me: yes
Megan: haha well that’s good I guess
Me: it is
Megan: especially for someone who only took silver (;

Another shit test because she knows I'm in much better shape and higher value than she is, so I ignore her comment lol. 1 hour later and she apologizes. The conditioning has paid off and she responds almost exactly how I want her too.

Megan: hehe I’m joking
Me: clearly lol
Megan: whatever you don’t me as I am know anyways remember?
Me: so whatever then lol

I break things off here. Time to condition her against self doubt and build her confidence. Every time she negs herself. I end the convo. back to radio silence until she works up the nerve to text me again, which eventually happens of course, along with her keeping me posted on her progress and eating habits lol.

Megan: ‘sushi pic’
Megan: my very weird lunch. Sushi and blueberries.
Me: not weird
Megan: I was craving
Me: I would be too
Megan: I’ve lost 5 pounds since Friday
Megan: idk if that’s good or bad
Me: good hopefully lol
Megan: yeah I hope so

End the convo here, thanks for the update, text me when you have more info basically. Two days later

Megan: its official. I hate Wednesdays
Me: whys that
Megan: just a shitty day. Its rainy and gross and its making all my patients and myself irritable.
Megan: and im fucking starving. And the doc is being a bitch today
Me: find some food in something
Me: good*
Megan: im moving in this weekend. That’s good
Me: yep, focus on that and stop being negative, focus on positive
Megan: yeah yeah yeah
Me: if you already know then why text me about it? lol
Megan: retail therapy or drink my day away? What would you do?
Me: I would find a productive way like working out to make myself feel better so neither lol
Megan: jerk

She starts getting testy here, so I nip that business in the ass and begin to set a more stern frame of exactly what she can expect of me from now on.

Me: if you don’t want my honest opinion don’t ask for it
Megan: I know I know im just kidding. What if I buy workout clothes?
Me: go work out and think about what you wanna do after your done.
Megan: I hate when you are right
Megan: are you motivating me because you actually care about my health or for your own reasons
Me: im motivating you to go workout and do what healthy and what I would do
Megan: hmmm ok
Me: you asked what I would do and I gave you my answer why is this such a perplexing conundrum? Lol
Megan: guess it not
Me: exactly lol

Served. Frame set. 1 hour later

Megan: no gym. Got all I need in my basement. Eh it was ok. Don’t feel much better
Me: drive here ill help
Megan: yeah right
Me: fine lol
Megan: on the plus side I think I have a date this weekend?
Me: sounds interesting

As an intersting aside, sounds (insert term here), is BY FAR my favorite multi situational, multi use response ever lol. Sounds interesting, sounds fascinating, sounds exhausting. Try it, seriously, and let me know your results, properly applied you will love them I promise.

Megan: yeah I guess. Too soon?
Me: whatever you’re into. You’re better off coming up here this weekend
Megan: I have to move this weekend
Me: gotcha
Megan: why the fuck would you want me up there anyway?

Catching an attitude? Nope. Time for a frame reminder.

Me: well if you’re gonna catch an attitude then forget it lol
Megan: no attitude. I just thought it was pretty clear that I needed to lose weight
Me: yeah and?
Megan: so why would you want me there
Me: why wouldn’t I?
Megan: oh just forget it. its not gonna happen anyway.
Me: you’re always in such a poor mood about the idea
Megan: how would you like me to feel about the idea
Me: doesn’t really matter I guess lol so fuck it
Megan: ok then
Me: what if I wanted you to like the idea?
Megan: well then maybe I like it.
Me: well then maybe im glad that you do lol was that so hard to say?
Megan: haha no. just feelin the water I guess
Megan: is the weather crazy in Kirksville too
Me: yes lol
Megan: I hate this. All cooped up and nowhere to go
Me: you could come up here lol
Megan: sadly, I have to work tomorrow. And then I have to get all my shit out of my exs house this weekend
Me: no fun
Megan: exactly
Me: im the only guy in my house right now, I live with seven other guys so its weird
Megan: that would be weird. I bet it’s quiet
Me: it’s nice lol
Me: too bad you cant come up to a house to ourselves would be funnnnnnnn my house is huge
Megan: your house isn’t the only thing that’s huge(;

Nowwwww we are getting back on track. Time to apply some gas and check her confidence level in things.

Me: hahaha you remember?
Megan: of course, number two. Hard to forget
Me: fair lol I will always remember you in that secretary outfit, or that night at my uncles jesus
Megan: uncle jesus huh? What do you remember about that night?
Me: everything
Me: and ok uncles, jesus lol grammar nazi
Megan: anything specific? My memory isn’t as good as yours
Me: deep throat at the end of the couch, you on top on the couch, bent over the couch, lol
Megan: mmmmmm yeah. Did I wear stockings that night or was that a different night
Me: I think it was that night actually
Megan: I think it was too
Me: I need more of those nights
Megan: I miss feeling sexy. No one has made me feel sexy in a while
Me: I could tell
Megan: sucks
Me: yeah it does! I miss being fucked that good god damn, or that road head, or any of that head lol

Sometimes, white lies are best served to advance the cause. They're irrelevant, impossible to prove or disprove, and they get results.

Megan: I was just talking about how much I love giving road head.
Me: oh really? Hahaha I’ve haven't had it since
Megan: seriously???? Oh wow. Hard knock life huh?
Me: no shit!!!
Megan: I actually love giving head in general. Joe wouldn’t even let me do that most of the time
Me: that is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Lol
Me: its my favorite
Megan: I remember
Me: I miss it a lot lol
Megan: I’m sure you do
Me: sassy. Lol
Megan: I meant in general not just from me
Me: I meant from you
Megan: oh. In that case, I’m sure you do
Me: I do
Megan: I’ve gotten new outfits since then too by the way
Me: I like that. What are they?
Megan: a little maid outfit.
Megan: I even have a sexy santa outfit. Just for the holidays
Me: I bet you miss how confident you were when you dressed up, so sexy
Megan: nothing makes me feel sexier that putting on a sexy outfit and wrapping my legs around a man
Me: and no one did that better than you did
Megan: I did my best
Megan: I even cooked joe a dinner with just an apron once. he ate the food. I want to be taken
Me: I would have bent you over before you were done cooking
Megan: that food should’ve been burned
Megan: to a crisp

Now that she's worked up, clearly her confidence has come a ways since we first started this whole ordeal as well. Time to establish my dominance among any male, and my ability to please her. The goal here is to her to really escalate and communicate exactly what she wants.

Me: no shit. I would have fucked you until you came on the counter and then ordered a pizza and popped a bottle of wine, but I guess that’s the difference between alpha and beta males.
Megan: oh god that sounds wonderful
Megan: I loved when you bent me over your desk
Me: anytime you want that again you can have it
Megan: I don’t remember. Are you an ass man or a boob man
Me: ass. But boobs are a close second
Me: so squats in the gym until I move back should be a thing (; lol because those boobs are already ok
Megan: my ass has been maintained actually
Me: it was nice, especially when I bent you over.

Well from here things finally got where they needed to go. I got pics of her "pajamas" because she "thought she should share", and then pics with far less clothes, and a whole lot of I want you to do xyz to me because I'm so wet and horny etc etc etc etc. They've been that way ever since and she now only texts me sexual things or to ask when I'm coming home or about how she wants to meet up when I get back. She's lost 20 pounds so far and doesn't eat fast food anymore.

So in conclusion I suppose?

A few things. Set your frame early, set it hard, and only text her when it relates to what YOU want to talk about. Give in slightly sometimes so you're not the guy "just looking to fuck that's all you want" but BY NO MEANS chase. I know this is a little more specific in the fact that it was a ex and I had some prior knowledge on her, but a lot of the fundamentals that I used, and the ways that I got out of some sticky situations can apply across boundaries. Hopefully this helps you with your endeavors and good luck gentleman!

- The Marksman

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Seriously, don't be a fucking idiot. When a girl says this shit, just say

"Sure. Where are you?"

This is from Tinder. This girl flaked on me twice last semester and after some reputation management and very particular behavior around her, she became interested. For context, this is Abi from this report.

Note: I WAS driving and wouldn't be back in my town until like 2am, so my logistics were already fucked. BUT THAT'S NO EXCUSE.

Me - Haha gotta love Tinder. You recovering from one of the crazy day drinks today? (Saturday 11:20pm)

Her - You wanna for four? (12:56am)

Me - haha what?

Me - Not sure what that means

Her - You know what it means

Me - Are you asking if I want to hangout at 4?

Me - Seriously no idea what "for four" means aha

Her - Figure it out

Me - Give me a hint

Her - Lol fuck

Me - Haha sure. When?

Her - Omg

Me - ?

Me - I'll be in town in an hour

Me - Back to being confused haha

No response; so early this afternoon

Me - So, Abi, were you playing a prank on me last night or? haha

Her - MM..was I that much of a tease?

Me - Apparently. But truth is, if you did act on it, you couldn't handle it ;p soooo it really doesn't matter

Her - Ha. That's a funny joke.

Me - Who's joking? lol you htink you could handle sex with me?

Me - Also, text me. Tinder sucks and keeps crashing **********

Yep. Totes had that had I been not retarded AND, more importantly, been in town. Oh well, ya learn. Next time I see her, I'm gonna be super direct.

Btw, that "omg" was her saying "SERIOUSLY ASKING WHEN? I MEAN RIGHT NOW!"


Don't be dumb.

- Anatman

 

[Marty]

Anatman:

First of all I hope you nail Abi—let me make that absolutely clear. When it comes to a good guy enjoying intimacy with a hot girl, I'm always in favor

That said... if I were in your position of abundance, I'm not sure I'd tolerate this type of crap. Yes, I know I love women, and I don't mind them bitchy either, actually I rather like it, but this:

Me - Haha sure. When?

Her - Omg

—is inexcusable. Who does she think she is: Lucy in Charlie Brown and the Football?

Either she gets a kick out of tantalizing you, or she is remarkably poor at planning ahead (which is arguably worse, in the long run—you were only out of town for an hour). One way or the other, I'm happy for you that you have a surfeit of alternative options!

But as I said: whatever her less enviable qualities, I hope you take her bed, whether she deserves it or not

-Marty

 

[Marty]

Hey folks,

I need to pull out the FR Bastion big guns here...

I haven't posted an FR but the long and the short of it is that yesterday around 12:45 PM I sat down next to a chick sunning herself outside an office building ("like a reptile" as I delicately put it!) to warm up on account of the poorly-adjusted air conditioning in her building.

Within 5 minutes I had her hooked; it was surprisingly easy once she inadvertently helped me out by making a slip, and thus setting the tone of the entire interaction. The conversation proceeded very naturally... banter about the cold-blooded sunning, then exchanged names a couple minutes in, then asked her which office building it was, had her point it out, brief convo about what I'd heard regarding its poor state of repair (banter again), then I ask her what she does there. This is where she tries to get difficult: "What do I do? ... Well, I don't really do much" and it's like a gift to me, having been prepped by this site—I disengage and give a very "bored look" into the distance.

All of a sudden she's chasing, in a mad rush to qualify herself. At this point I'm wishing I'd voice-recorded the whole interaction. She trips over herself a couple times and the best bit is when she says: "Yeah, totally, I completely agree with that" (to some remark where I've essentially rephrased what she said herself), then two minutes later she starts off again "Yeah, totally, I completely ag—" before she realizes she's sounding like a broken record and lays off. It's so obvious, it's funny.

I think it's the first time I've consciously noticed a woman forcing rapport. When I tell her what I do myself, she's like "That's so cool" and actually starts bouncing up and down a bit where she's sitting. I reward her by touching her upper arm a couple times and when I ask her out she says she can basically make herself free for most things.

Now girl who's so confident she can make herself free, aside from a full-time job, has two kids 14 and 12 (!)—and before you start saying she's past it, she's HOT. I was basically trying to figure out for the earlier part of the conversation how long she'd been out of college, she looked so young. Realistically she's probably around 5 years younger than me which would mean she had the first child at 19 or so—entirely possible. When she told me about the children I said with detached curiosity: "I wouldn't have thought it. You're CUTE. What do you do to stay in such shape?"

So she asks for my business card and I tell her yes, I do have one, but make no effort to search for it, instead say: "I'll take your phone number anyway" and have her key it in before the card makes an appearance. When asked she says I can call anytime before 9:30 PM (she works 7 AM–3 PM, so she needs her beauty sleep!) and if she's available, she'll take the call. I text her a very brief icebreaker about 2 hours after parting; she doesn't reply, so I call around 8:45 PM and leave a brief voice message.

This morning at 9:30 AM I get the following text:

• Hi, Marty -- nice chatting with you as well. I know I said I'd be open to coffee, but I think I should decline. I just started seeing someone and, though there's no "official" exclusivity, I think my attention (and possibly my heart) is spoken for at this point. Please forgive my change in response -- our conversation yesterday was so unexpected that I was unable to process my sense of hesitation in the moment. Okay if I shoot you a txt or call if things change?

Note the length It takes up a whole iPhone screen...

What I want to somehow communicate is that I am unimpressed, and get her qualifying herself again, but NOT a butthurt beta exasperation... more like an expectation that she will work for me to undo her misstep.

How's this sound:

• {Babe}, listen, you can keep your guy, I'm not seeking to fill his shoes... more like supplement your diet whenever you're bored Think of me as your "guilty pleasure" Meet me 3 PM Friday, same place as before and let's just chat and see where things go: you can leave whenever you want!

I know this is clumsy. That's why I'm asking you fellas to set me straight.

Thank you!!

-Marty

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

I'm actually not too opposed to the text, since I'm actually experimenting with hard pushes over text. Franco long ago mentioned that they usually won't work, since persistence can seems like chasing without the non-verbals of in-person in teractions, BUT I have had some recent success with them, so it is possible. Thing is, my hard pushes usually come after I attract a girl but fail to escalate to sex that day/night and then they leave me and, I suspect, ask around about me and hear of my reputation as a man-whore/player. But you don't have to deal with that and if possible, try not to get into the problem of hard pushing over text in the first place.

The antidote? The same tactic I prescribed to your other FR - push for sex that day. Get same day dates and same day lays.

Here's my challenge to you Marty,

For your next 10 approaches,

1. Do not get their number. BUT IF YOU DO, you must meet up with them THAT DAY. I want you to go for broke when you persist for a that day date or insta-date.

2. No kisses on the cheek


- Anatman

 

[Marty]

You're absolutely right, Anatman, I realized too late I should've asked her to come out at 3 PM that day, when she got off work. Then I could have escalated as far as possible, even invited her home. Didn't occur to me, stupidly.

And I promise I didn't cheek-kiss her

 

[RDawg]

Hey guys, love the reports posted on the board. I just thought I would add to it.

21 Wild Girl

A quick little background here: This girl messaged me about a month ago out of the blue and was instantly flirting. I know her from high school and she always had an strong interest in me but I never really saw much in her until now. She got way hotter lol! I see her maybe 2 or 3 times randomly out of the year. So fast forward about a few years later and here we are. I hope to lay this girl but it's seems she's playing a little bit hard. She doesn't go to my gym but I think she saw a picture of me working out at the gym from friends or social media.

Her: Daumm RDawg is Looken good at the gym
June 12th, 5:44pm
Me: ohh you know it
June 12th, 8:33pm
Her: Lol your to funny
Her: How have you been bum haven't talk to you in years ! You still in hockey ?
June 13th, 1:37am
Me: Good! I know, it's been a while lol. Ya a bit but i'm more into fitness and working out now how have you been?
June 13th, 7:53am
Her: Lol good for you ! I've been really good always working so I can't complain that's my work out ha
June 13th, 12:21pm
Me: Haha nice nice, where ya working at?
June 13th, 3:42pm
Her: I graduated from grooming school so I work at XYZ
June 13th, 4:44pm
Me: ohh that's cool, good for you! (so conversation ended here, I wasn't sure what she wanted but I was waiting for her to ask me something? I know she was chasing here. Anyways, nothing ended up happening, so I ended up picking it up 2 weeks later)

Thursday 8:09pm
Me: Hey (wild girl), what's goin on? (2 weeks later)
Her: RDog happy Belated birthday I hope you had a good one ! (it was my bday a few days before)
Her:Not much just drawing lol haven a lazy day hbu ?
Me:Thanks haha! Im just relaxing at my buddies house right now.
Her:Nice so did you enjoy your bday ?
Me: Noo..cuz I didn't see you out
Her: Lol should have told me I would gave you a big birthday hug
Her: But I was out you just don't recognize me shame on you lol
Me:U were out? I didn't see you lol
Her: Exactly I bet you walked right by me
Me: If I walked right by you, you shoulda said hi to me. I didn't see ya lol
Her: Lol I didn't see you where did you go ?
Me: I went to XYZ. Hbu?
Her: And me and my girls were gonna go there ! We what hopping aha
Me: Haha you missed out
Her: Lol oh did i
Her: I think you missed out lol
Me: Im sure I did lol. When can I make up for this mistake? Haha
Her: Ahah your next bday aha jk
Me: Im fine by that, im celebrating again saturday lol
Her: I'll see you down there it's my girls bday
Me: Im not your girl?
Her: Lol no your not
Her:It's my friends bday
Me: Haha. So where is your girls bday celebration?
Her: We are gonna figure it out tomorrow
Her:Were you going
Me: Same im still figuring out where I want a hotel or booth. Ill let ya know if u wanna come see me
Her: RDog wants me to come see him daum lol for sure just let me know and we will figure it out
Me: Consider yourself lucky haha. Ill keep ya posted. Same to you, let me know your plans when you figure it out
Her: Lol it's the other way around buddy aha and for sure (left it at there and picked it up the next night)

Friday 10:05pm
Me: Hey, thinking of headin to XXYZ tomorrow. Might be getting booth there.
Her: Ew lmao why it's all *****
Me: Lol it not all *****. Do you know where your going?
Her: Lol okay and she might want to got to XYZ but not sure yet (not where I am going)
Me: Okay sounds good! If your lucky maybe you'll see me haha
Her: Ouuu nice one budy i prob come by and see you
Me: Ya hopefully (left it at that and she messaged me the next night before going out)
Saturday 5:09pm
Her: We are going to the **** ahhh lol (again not where I am going)
Saturday 6:28pm
Me: kk lol.. lemme know if u decide to come see me
Her: We will see if I like you enough
Her: Lol (left at this, and I didn't end up seeing her that night. Nor did she message me at all later)

I decided I would pick it up a week later)
Friday 10:52pm
Me: Hey, what are you up to tomorrow night?
Her: Working because I'm awesome lol hbu
Me: Oh so your working and busy night? (lol I was texting another girl at the same here, so i kinda screwed my wording up)
Me: On a saturday*
Her: Yea lol why you don't
Me: No I save saturdays for partying haha
Her: Lmao !
Her: Good for you I can't do that we get different days off not always the same
Me: What days do you have off?
Her: Every week is different (I didn't like this response from her.. felt like she was playing hard here)
Me: Maybe next time if your not to busy for me
Her: Lol oh daum RDog trying to hang out
Me: Well ya thats what u want
Her: Lol ooooo
Her: No it's what you want
Her:
Me: Good. Since it's what we both want. I'm sure it will happen soon lol
Her: Lol well I'm sure it will ( I feel like she is playing hard, so i'm not to sure where to go from here. I was thinking I would pick it up again a week later?)

 

[sneaky_charm]

This is my first time adding texts here, and my texts today were terrible. Hope to have some great advice from you guys!

So this is me texting the girl I mentioned in this post after 48 hours from my last message.

Me - I think I found you
Her - Where
Me - Lol....wherever you are with your phone
Her -
Me - So wat du u lyk bsdz wearng dsgner sndlz....
Her - 1 mint. .2dy dd u go WP? (WP refers to West Park, where we met. I think when I mentioned designer shoes, she thought I saw her in the park today. She went to meet her friends today there. But I was referring to the first day.)
Me - WP clzd nw, itz 9pm....wat r u syn...
Her - I mean 2dy evng
Me - Naah...stp imagining me evrywhr (2 hours and haven't got a reply after this. Too strong at this stage????)

After writing the texts here, I clearly see my texts were much more enthusiastic than her...BAD....but what else could I have done better?

- Kevin

 

[RDawg]

Hey guys, just an update from my last post. I messaged Wild Girl 21 last night, after not messaging her for about a week and a half. Here is how the messaging went:

Me: Hey (Wild Girl 21), what's going on? 8:46PM
Her: Hey nothin much, just finishing up at work. hbu? 9:00PM
Me: All u do is work? ha 9:12PM
Her: Lmaoooo what you don't like a girl that works? 11:30AM (next morning)
Me: I like a girl that works for me . And id' like to see ya once in a while haha 3:32PM (I waited a while to respond because she didn't respond until the next morning. Threw in a little sexual humor to spice it up. Also, I was a little unsure when I said "And I'd like to see ya once in a while. I feel like I could of said something better, What ya guys think??)
Her: I'm going out Saturday. lol work you ehh? (4:02PM)
Me: Ya bet you can't handle me! And if ur lucky and work me right you'll be able to see me Saturday. (4:45PM) (trying to be a little cocky n funny here, and show her that I am the prize!)
Her: lol dam well i know for a fact i will (10:30PM) (haha I laughed when I saw this. Also, i left it at this because I didn't want to text to much. I'm gonna pick it up later in the week, probably friday and saturday before the night out. Will see what happens and hopefully I have a field report written up soon.

Anyways, I feel meeting her out at a bar or club is the best scenario. What do you guys think?

 

[fsc]

Just found this thread. Seems like a cool idea.

Vanessa: Met her on campus back at my community college with a direct opener a couple of weeks ago. Pretty solid initial interaction. Ended on a subtle sexual note--when she commented on how big my phone was, I replied "the bigger the better right?" with a sexy smile. "Chino" is the city she lives in; it's not her last name.

Me: Hey Vanessa, this is fsc. Nice to meet you. 7:11 PM
Vanessa Chino: hey! Sorry I was driving haha 7:36 PM
Me: Nothing to be sorry about. I like girls who obey the law =p haha. 7:48 PM
Vanessa Chino: haha alright cool 8:03 PM
Me: So what do you like doing when you're not at work or school? 8:09 PM
Vanessa Chino: Uhmmm hiking, hanging out with my family/friends, driving to LA and going to nice views haha oh and Disneyland 8:46 PM
Vanessa Chino: hey do you have an instagram haha 8:46 PM
Me: Haha I like how you said you like driving out to LA because that's actually where I live. I don't have an instagram but my facebook is [PRIVACY] if you use fb 9:06 PM
Vanessa Chino: you do? hahaha why are you coming all the way to Mt. Sac then?! 9:09 PM
Me: Yeah, I thought you would be an active girl. Your hiking legs caught my attention 9:09 PM
Me: My grandma lives in the area. I had to come fix the computer and visited some friends who haven't transferred yet 9:10 PM
Vanessa Chino: ohhh, you see I wouldn't consider myself an "active girl" at all actually hahaha I mean I like hiking, but I'm really out of shape so I get all tired super quick & I don't do like super crazy hikes ahahahaha I don't do it as often as I used to either 9:12 PM
Vanessa Chino: ohhhhh! Ok ok I see. So you don't actually go to Mt. Sac? haha 9:13 PM
Me: Well, you should come over to LA then. We'll enjoy some nice views and get a good workout in. 10:01 PM
Me: Nah, I transferred out. But I have friends there still and I'm close with some professors 10:01 PM
Me: So you're undecided, but do you have a dream school you would like to transfer to? 12:39 PM

A day passes

Me: Were you looking for a serious boyfriend type of guy? 2:33 AM
Vanessa Chino: hey! I'm sorry I haven't replied, I've been kinda busy. But that's a random question hahaha why do you ask that 11:34 AM
Me: That's fine, we all get busy. I'm just curious about your position/thoughts on guys and stuff 11:58 AM
Me: I just noticed that wasn't very clear. What are you looking for relationship-wise? 2:20 PM
Vanessa Chino: I dunno. Well, I'm not "looking" for a boyfriend or whatever. But I mean if I happen to meet someone that I like enough and I can see myself with, well then it'll happen. haha until then I'm just kind of doing my own thing. If that makes sense.... 2:23 PM
Me: Hahaha that's similar to what I would've said if you asked me. Coolios 2:25 PM
Me: Is evil Cocos making you work Monday? I don't really like texting. I'd much rather speak and see your face 2:27 PM
Vanessa Chino: Unfortunately, I am working Monday 2:31 PM
Me: Bummers. When is the next time you're free? 2:32 PM
Me: Hey, what's your instagram? 8:55 PM
Vanessa Chino: [PRIVACY] 9:11 PM
Me: Booo. I guess I gotta friend you first or whatever to stalk you. Do you use facebook? 4:02 AM

I think a day passes

Me: So I need to go see my grandma again this week, and I figured we grab some coffee after. What does your schedule look like this week? 3:12 PM

I think like 2 days passed

Me: Hey what's your impression of me? Because you seem distant 3:51 PM

No response. Bye bye. She had a bunch of followers on instagram. I guess she's just one of those attention hoez.

===================================================================

Maddy: Opened her direct on the street a few weeks ago. Walked with her to In N Out, sat and talked with her while she waited for her order.

Me: Hello, this is fsc. Save this number =D 2:57 PM
Maddy Monroe: I will haha 3:00 PM
Me: Como esta tu primera noche de drinkend? 11:36 PM
Maddy Monroe: Esta muy bien. Estoy muy contento 11:47 PM
Me: Jajaja awesome. Take a shot for me and have fun. Hit me up if you get bored and when you get back. 12:07 AM

A weekend passes

Me: Just got back from a spontaneous Vegas trip. How did the rest of your drinkend go? 7:35 PM
Maddy Monroe: I was at my friends house one night then went home but the drinkend continued because my mom got me the new pineapple cider from trader joes and I had really high grade tequila with my stepdad so that was cool. Wish I had some more time at home but it was a nice visit 7:50 PM
Maddy Monroe: How was Vegas? 7:50 PM
Me: Well, at least home isn't too far away. Vegas was awesome because it was my first time going with friends rather than family. I think Hangover 4 will be based on my weekend haha. 3:01 PM
Me: What's your favorite drink? 3:03 PM
Maddy Monroe: That sounds fun then haha. Probably peach ciroc but I like tequila and whiskey a lot too 3:10 PM
Me: Dang party girl, you like the strong stuff. The honey Jack is prolly the only whiskey I can take. Usually I go with rum. Pineapple or melon Bacardi are awesome. 3:21 PM
Me: We should go grab some peach ciroc sometime. I've never tried it. What does your schedule look like this week? 3:23 PM
Maddy Monroe: Pineapple rum is really good. Im not sure what's on my schedule other than class and a concert Friday 3:25 PM
Me: Hmm. When do you end class on Thursday? I'm thinking lunch. Junk food and alcoholism. 3:30 PM
Maddy Monroe: Thursday I have class till 4 3:31 PM
Me: Sorry for the slow response my body is still knocking out from the lack of sleep. What about tomorrow? When are you done by? 9:54 PM
Maddy Monroe: Probably like 2 9:54 PM
Me: Down to hang out tomorrow then? 9:57 PM
Maddy Monroe: Possibly but it depends if I finish this one assignment. Can I let you know tomorrow? 10:05 PM
Me: When is it due? I have a dog that will eat it 10:06 PM
Maddy Monroe: It's due Thursday and sadly that excuse is not very effective 10:07 PM
Me: You've tried already? 10:10 PM
Me: I was thinking about capturing it on video and you could panic and everything 10:12 PM
Maddy Monroe: Back in elementary school... I even still handed in half a paper...that would be a rather coincidental spontaneous video 10:13 PM
Me: HAHA your teacher must've been a dick to turn that down. Especially from a little girl. I was thinking of holding it at a high angle and add effects to it to make it look like a security cam footage. 10:35 PM
Me: Do you have any potential conflicts on Thursday then? 10:35 PM
Maddy Monroe: Yes because my friend will be in town 10:36 PM
Me: I have another dog that will take care of your friend too hahah 10:53 PM
Me: Well let me know tomorrow when you finish the assignment. If not then we'll see after concert. I dislike texting but it'll have to do for now I guess 10:57 PM
Maddy Monroe: Today's not going to work sorry :/ 2:18 PM
Me: No worries. I'm free Saturday and most of next week. Let me know when works. 2:26 PM

I think two days or so passes.

Me: What's your impression of me? Because you seem distant/evasive 6:59 PM
Maddy Monroe: No I think you're very charming actually haha I just think the circumstances under which we met are kinda weird 7:08 PM
Me: I prolly should've waited for you to finish your chocolate huh? Haha 7:09 PM
Me: Can you elaborate on the weird part? 7:12 PM
Maddy Monroe: Like I haven't had anyone just randomly come up to me when I was walking down the street 7:13 PM
Me: Haha yeah...thanks for not pepper spraying me though. Well, the thing is, as a comp sci major I don't have many opportunities to meet girls. Bars are an option, but I prefer not to drink and my experiences with people in bars haven't been too great. Plus you're really attractive so it would've beem a shame if we just parted 7:19 PM
Maddy Monroe: Yea I understand that...do you have a facebook? 7:26 PM
Me: Yeee I think it's [PRIVACY]7:50 PM
Maddy Monroe: Not sure if I found it but check to see if you got a friend request. Facebook stalking helps determine how cautious I should be 7:52 PM
Me: Haha you might wanna get yourself a few gallons of pepper spray and a hazmat suit. I'm extra creepy 7:55 PM
Me: Accepted. Stalk away 7:55 PM
Maddy Monroe: Nothing menacing at all haha 8:09 PM
Me: LOLs. We could have our first date at the FBI office and get a background check. They prolly have a nice cafeteria 8:11 PM
Me: Kidding, but this is cute 8:12 PM
Me: You're cute, rather 8:12 PM
Maddy Monroe: Thanks haha 8:12 PM
Me: Are you generally a cautious person or do you have bad experiences with guys? Other than having had to pay for everything 8:45 PM
Maddy Monroe: Iv had some kinda bad experiences 8:49 PM
Me: I see. Well, I'm sorry for whatever happened. Hopefully none of them were recent and that you're over them. 3:47 AM
Me: On the bright side, I guess you've learned and grown from them, and now you can appreciate the good experiences even more 3:48 AM
Me: Hope you enjoy the concert btw. Not sure what time it is at, but prolly better for me to say it now in case I forget later. 3:51 AM

No response for a few days now. Should I ping her again?

 

[tvktvk]

Hey guys, just wondering if you could give me any tips on this very small texting report. Feel my texting in general is way too friendly.

Suzie - I was having a pretty off night at the bar on Thursday with no successful approaches (though I only approached 4-5 girls).
I asked the bartender for a beer, but he redirected me to this cute asian chick. When I explained the miscommunication to her
she brushed it off, told me I was cute and to take her card. Turns out she's the manager and owner of the bar! After we talk for
a couple minutes she tells me to enjoy the rest of my evening cause she has to run. I text her up the next morning just curious to see where this could go:

Me - Hey Suzie, was nice meeting you last night tvktvk (cute norwegian guy) 2:57pm

Her - Nice meeting you too!! Come again soon k 3:12pm

Me - Sure are you working tonight? 3:44pm

Her - Ya of course. It's my bar haha 3:44pm
Her - Big event tonigjy. You should come. It's gonna be super busy 3:45pm

Me - Hahah, my bad. We're going to "Classy Bar" tonight but I'll let you know if we stop by 3:49pm

Her - Sounds good 3.53pm

I was not interested in actually dropping by on Friday, but I texted her up today (saturday) in the afternoon.

Me - Hey Suzie, hope last night went great Was my first time at "Classy Bar", was pretty cool 2:36pm

No response. I'm now kinda suspecting that she only gave me her card to gain a loyal customer by me chasing her.
How should I have texted her differently on friday?

TVKTVK

 

[fpt2k14]

Sup dudes, very interesting thread. Thought I'd throw my 2 cents.

Much alike Anatman, I'm in a fraternity. My game is 50/50 cold approach & social circle. That means, I mostly cold approach girls but they are always somewhat in my distant social circle so I'll casually run into them.

I've found that 90% of the girls I end up sleeping with, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS follow an excuse with a "maybe such and such day" or "not that day but I can this day" that means they always will try to fit you into their schedule whereas girls who are more flakey and less likely to hook up with me either pile excuses on top of each other or stop answering altogether.

So, a good strategy for me is, if a girl gives me an excuse I either let her text me again proposing a different time or not answer at all. This took some self-control but it gives clear results. Cheers.

 

[ThatAsshole]

Hello pimps,

I've been browsing the boards this evening, noticed again this thread and decided to write my last text interaction which happened like 2 hours ago, on facebook (meh)

So I had this friend request sitting there for like more than a week (keep waiting bitch, I'm busy). We have some mutuals, but didn't give it too much attention, since she had only a few pics up for public and I wasn't entirely sure about pursuing.
Anyway, few days ago I though of giving it a try, since I find here a bit above average. I was thinking about logistics, and decided to wait until today, because some cool party is due this weekend. And since I'm a trying-to-break-out-pussy, I was thinking maybe we could meet at the party. (and not as a date, because I'm inexperienced blah-blah-blah, I'll get there one day)

Remembering some advice I read somewhere around here, never-ever accepted her friend request and opened:

Me: Hey. I don't usually keep people I haven't meet, in my friend list. Do we know each other ?

Her: (2 mins after) I don't know who you are
Her: I've just noticed I sent you a friend request
Her: Welll
Her: What can I say ? ))))

Me: Sending out friend requests to strangers, is it that how adventurous you are ?

Her: Just to see new people on fb
Her: )

Me: Why facebook, it's stupid anyway (trying to point facebook is a stupid way of interacting/meeting bla-bla)

Her: (5-6 mins later) How old are you ?

Me: (didn't want to give her satisfaction and control, but I didn't know how to respond, so) Hmm, if you promise you are not from the police, maybe I'll tell you

Her: )))))
Her: OK

Me: (confused what to do, fuck it, I'll just tell you bitch) I don't know how much it matters but, I'm 22

Her: I thought you were younger
Her: I'll cancel my friend request if you want
Her: And sry for bothering

Me: (trying to avoid her beating herself up/regreting for sending the friend request and be a bit warm) Me too, everyday. But then I look at my ID and get upset

Her: )))))

Me: What about you ? How old are you ?

Her: (7-8 mins later) 21

I checked and she didn't cancel the friend request. At this point I felt things went cold

Me: It seems we have something in common then (that we both fucking look younger, but she didn't get it)

Her: Well I think we graduated the same high-school but well whatever

Me: Haha I wasn't referring to that. I haven't attended high-school in [city] though, although it would've been nice

Her: You had picture on fb with few of my ex high-school classmates

Me: Probabily. Where have you graduated ?

Her: [high-school]

Me: I see
Me: Who are your ex highschool classmates ? (OH YOU SMARTASS, the collaps. should've said something funnier maybe, like "Haha that's great. I know a lot of funny and awesome people there, are you one of them ?" - but.. learning brothas)

The delay between messages started to be a bit bigger than in the beginning.
By the end of the convo she had seen the message (THE INFAMOUS "SEEN") quite fast, but didn't respond. I checked friend requests half and hour or an hour later, she deleted it. Well, so long biatch, there are more where you come from, your loss.
Oh and a thing to mention, I was USUALLY waiting about 2-3 mins or even more to respond. Risky move ?

All jokes aside, I am thinking I should've been a lot warmer, make her feel comfortable.

At this point I'm expecting nothing and I'm over it, just learning. Now I have an urge to go take a leak and head to the gym. Ughhh



Keep bumping brothers,
TA

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

ThatAsshole,

You were WAY too much of an asshole with this texting exchange. She was all about you the whole time, but you kept trying to keep up the face of a careless player. I've made this mistake more times than I can count.

Her: (2 mins after) I don't know who you are
Her: I've just noticed I sent you a friend request
Her: Welll
Her: What can I say ? ))))

Right here you could have dropped the act. By rephrasing your adventurous comment like

"Sending out friend requests to strangers; very adventurous of you! "

Giving it a direct tense, instead of the interrogative tense, makes it much warmer and complimentary. After this, you could have sent 4 or 5 "get-to-know-you" messages, then figure out when to meet in person.

I'm halfway through editing/polishing my genuine man article series. This will help you jump through your "jerk" phase quickly. The inefficiency of jerk behavior is astounding once you ascend it.

- Hector

 

[ThatAsshole]

Hector,

Yeah man, that's right. I have no clue why I kept up the careless/jerky attitude. Silly
About interrogation.. I think it's time to re-read that deep diving article. Tried to deep dived and talk less in my usual interactions (talking with people in general) and it's kinda hard, need to study a bit.

Do you think is it worth giving it a try with this gal, this evening, and shoot a text ?


Thanks for the response