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Hey fellas,
Some thoughts and enlightenment would be greatly appreciated since I've never been so confused in my entire life.
I've started chatting with this girl a few weeks back, let's call her Andrea, she's 23.
Background
I randomly and out of boredom wrote her on Facebook, opened with a stupid invite to drinks, straight away (I was bored remember). She was really cold in the beginning and more or less told me to fuck off - no wonder. Despite this, I felt like continuing the convo, so I did. After half an hour she was all laughing her ass off and we were both enjoying chatting with each other. She is very open and we feel really comfortable with each other, like we've known each other for years kind of feeling. Lots of sexual remarks and jokes - I was like, damn, that's awesome, we're going to have a great time. She finished Psychology and she's currently in her 1st year of Master's degree. She also told me she was proposed to, but she bailed, being single ever since (few months I think).
I felt I was playing it great (at least over text, for now), I was able to see through her and always say the right stuff, always read the situation correctly - felt like we connect. She was giving me shit, I was giving her shit, she was nice, I was nice - you know, making things more spicy.
1st meet
2 weeks ago, Saturday night at around 1AM, I wrote her out of nowhere and told her I'm around her area, let's just meet for a few minutes and have a smoke (I don't smoke, but she does) - she complied and after a few more texts, we decided to hang around a little bit longer.
We met outside her place, I greet her, kiss on the cheek, we hop inside my car. Drove around a little bit, chatting (no music). Things were going great, we seemed really comfortable and enjoyed each other's company. We were supposedly looking for a park to smoke in. Finally found a park, hanged there for around 10 minutes (since it was freezing cold), got back inside the car.
At this point, all the seduction shit was going through my head like crazy - be sexual, touch her, create emotion, etc.
So I was thinking, alright, she was all that sexual and we connected really great so far, fuck it, I'll just take her back to my place.
And so I did. After driving around for 5 more minutes, I started heading towards the warm and cozy place, without her knowing.
We arrived and while the parking lot barrier was rising, she stopped talking and realised what happened - she was all surprised, laughing, "can't believe you took me to your place haha" blah blah. I was thinking "good, that's good" (lol)
I'll be quick here, since not much happened.
Showed her the apartment, poured 2 glasses of wine, talked at the table. The apartment is new, I currently have no couch - setback.
We spent like 2-3 hours, she decided to go, couldn't stop her - I was not being pushy because I realised I was not sexual and I did a poor job in setting the tone and all that. Fine, whatever, I fucked up, but I can live with not getting laid on the first "date", even though she seemed like a sealed deal.
The only good thing here was that while calling her a taxi, we somehow got close to each other in a sexual way, hugged for a few minutes, kissed her neck and shit, whispering her to stay some more - to no success, fine whatever. I was thinking, she must not be as easy as I initially thought. That's ok, more work for me, I'm fine.
2nd meet
The next day we chatted some more, she recalled I kissed her, laughing, asking me "wait, you thought I would spend the night and we would be fucking? haha", I played it cool, no biggie. She told me she had a great time, I'm nice, blah blah
More chatting during the next week, we got closer, told her I wanted to see her.
Met for drinks on Thursday (5 days later) in a cozy, quiet place. We had a great time. We got out of there.
While we were preparing to leave, I was constantly thinking I need to make shit happen and escalate. I grabbed her hand and put it in my pocket on the way back to the car (it's cold gurl, damn, gimme that hand). Few minutes later she put her other hand around my waist. Good, that's good - lol
We got to the car, drove around, played some kinky/sexy music she was showing me a few days ago (you know, porn lyrics and stuff). Hold her hand, grabbed her leg, she was feeling great. Tried to kiss her at stop lights, she was giving me a hard time, we started joking about it. It was great.
I was thinking, this time I have to close, this is way too much, I am almost rubbing her pussy while driving, with no resistance.
So again, I set course for my apartment while dodging the police 3 times (my car is kinda illegal lol and I had a glass of wine earlier - zero tolerance for that here).
At some point, with a playful happy voice, she asked: "we are not going back to your place, right ?" I was like "no, of course not" (while driving towards my place). She replied "Ok", giggling. Plausible deniability I though ?
We hit a dark, long, empty road. She was laid back with her arms up holding onto the seat's headrest. I suddenly stopped the car in the middle of the road. We started kissing, zero resistance, very into it, for like 10-15 seconds.
We finally arrived. She was surprised, saying she won't stay. I tried 20 minutes to convince her, no luck.
Drove her back, while listening to "porn" music.. wtf girl.
I was very frustrated and amazed at this point. How could this happen ? What the hell did I do wrong. After all that.. damn. Well, third time's a charm, right ?
3rd meet
During the week I proposed we cook at my place. She jokingly answered "Do you promise not to hit on me ?" - of course, I even promise to take you home, lol
Next Thursday (7 days later), I call her, she forgot, I give her shit. She says it will be fun. We met in 2 hours.
We go shopping for ingredients, get to my place. Things were great, lots of kissing, hugging, caressing, felt sooo good!
I knew cooking is gonna work, ha! Tonight is the night.
Later that night we started watching some videos, laying on some blanket in the living room. Started rubbing her breasts and pussy, she was enjoying it, tried to unzip stuff, but she constantly resisted with a smile (feels like LMRrrrrr). Later at some point, we were kissing while standing, I lift her up and carry her to the bedroom, no resistance, sexy smiles. I lay her on the bed, on her back, me on top. Tried to escalate, LMR. Hello LMR, fuck you. Long story short, even thought we were always falling back into each other's hands and kissing, grabbing her ass, tits, she ended up leaving. We spent like 8 hours or so.
I was actually laughing after she left, I took it as a challenge. A lot of things started running through my head the following days. Started diving into LMR, but didn't manage to finish the articles though - we met again really quick.
4th meet - last night
Saturday, 2 days later. She had an exam, I propose we meet to relax, she replied we better not meet today (it's like a valentine's day here), we laugh it off.
I do my shit, go take a nap in the afternoon, since I woke up really early that day. She did the same - cute.
I was laying in bed when I receive a text from her, around 5PM, asking what am I doing (previously tagging me in some playful facebook post) - Ha, you want me bitch, fine, let's do it.
We chatted, decided to meet. I was trying to come up with some fun/adventurous activity, we started laughing at the fact that this town is no fun. She proposed we just watch something - works for me. Sounds promising!
Grabbed her, stopped by the store, bought some wine.
I noticed right off the bat she was really sweet and lovable. In the car, while talking, she was often touching me, being really cheerful. Made me happy.
We get to my place, kissed her within 10 minutes, smooth sailing. We laid in bed watching some tv shows, she was constantly caressing me, kissing, all that.
I decided to take it slow, take my time, make her comfortable. Touched her everywhere, but didn't try to unzip her pants or bra, no resistance. She mentioned she will leave at some point, I managed to turn her around and lay in bed some more.
Later in the night while in bed, we go in full make out mode, I notice what turns her on, she gets more and more excited, biting her lip, on top of me, rubbing against my dick. Every fucking sign in the world. It was like "Fuck me" written all over her. I try to move things forward again, and surprise surprise, LMR... what the fuck ?!
Anyways, we again fall back into each other's arms, constantly kissing, grabbing her ass, making out again (not as intense as above). All in vain... she, again, ended up leaving.
Man I was really frustrated this time.. I fail to understand it
We chatted a bit when she got home, I joke about not having sex (I realised it might be mistake, but fuck it). She replies along the lines:
Retrospect
I'm pretty much torn. I'm not entirely sure what's happening. Why the fuck is she doing all that sexual stuff if she is "not interested in this sexual aspect".
It's actually my first time hitting LMR, kinda frustrating. Maybe I should've moved faster this last time ?
Not sure how to proceed. Should I keep pushing forward or just give up and stop wasting my time ?
I don't quite understand what she wants or pursues. Is she seeing me as boyfriend material ?
Any ideas on this subject ? I'm clearly inexperienced and I fail to read/understand the situation.
Thank you all,
TA
Some thoughts and enlightenment would be greatly appreciated since I've never been so confused in my entire life.
I've started chatting with this girl a few weeks back, let's call her Andrea, she's 23.
Background
I randomly and out of boredom wrote her on Facebook, opened with a stupid invite to drinks, straight away (I was bored remember). She was really cold in the beginning and more or less told me to fuck off - no wonder. Despite this, I felt like continuing the convo, so I did. After half an hour she was all laughing her ass off and we were both enjoying chatting with each other. She is very open and we feel really comfortable with each other, like we've known each other for years kind of feeling. Lots of sexual remarks and jokes - I was like, damn, that's awesome, we're going to have a great time. She finished Psychology and she's currently in her 1st year of Master's degree. She also told me she was proposed to, but she bailed, being single ever since (few months I think).
I felt I was playing it great (at least over text, for now), I was able to see through her and always say the right stuff, always read the situation correctly - felt like we connect. She was giving me shit, I was giving her shit, she was nice, I was nice - you know, making things more spicy.
1st meet
2 weeks ago, Saturday night at around 1AM, I wrote her out of nowhere and told her I'm around her area, let's just meet for a few minutes and have a smoke (I don't smoke, but she does) - she complied and after a few more texts, we decided to hang around a little bit longer.
We met outside her place, I greet her, kiss on the cheek, we hop inside my car. Drove around a little bit, chatting (no music). Things were going great, we seemed really comfortable and enjoyed each other's company. We were supposedly looking for a park to smoke in. Finally found a park, hanged there for around 10 minutes (since it was freezing cold), got back inside the car.
At this point, all the seduction shit was going through my head like crazy - be sexual, touch her, create emotion, etc.
So I was thinking, alright, she was all that sexual and we connected really great so far, fuck it, I'll just take her back to my place.
And so I did. After driving around for 5 more minutes, I started heading towards the warm and cozy place, without her knowing.
We arrived and while the parking lot barrier was rising, she stopped talking and realised what happened - she was all surprised, laughing, "can't believe you took me to your place haha" blah blah. I was thinking "good, that's good" (lol)
I'll be quick here, since not much happened.
Showed her the apartment, poured 2 glasses of wine, talked at the table. The apartment is new, I currently have no couch - setback.
We spent like 2-3 hours, she decided to go, couldn't stop her - I was not being pushy because I realised I was not sexual and I did a poor job in setting the tone and all that. Fine, whatever, I fucked up, but I can live with not getting laid on the first "date", even though she seemed like a sealed deal.
The only good thing here was that while calling her a taxi, we somehow got close to each other in a sexual way, hugged for a few minutes, kissed her neck and shit, whispering her to stay some more - to no success, fine whatever. I was thinking, she must not be as easy as I initially thought. That's ok, more work for me, I'm fine.
2nd meet
The next day we chatted some more, she recalled I kissed her, laughing, asking me "wait, you thought I would spend the night and we would be fucking? haha", I played it cool, no biggie. She told me she had a great time, I'm nice, blah blah
More chatting during the next week, we got closer, told her I wanted to see her.
Met for drinks on Thursday (5 days later) in a cozy, quiet place. We had a great time. We got out of there.
While we were preparing to leave, I was constantly thinking I need to make shit happen and escalate. I grabbed her hand and put it in my pocket on the way back to the car (it's cold gurl, damn, gimme that hand). Few minutes later she put her other hand around my waist. Good, that's good - lol
We got to the car, drove around, played some kinky/sexy music she was showing me a few days ago (you know, porn lyrics and stuff). Hold her hand, grabbed her leg, she was feeling great. Tried to kiss her at stop lights, she was giving me a hard time, we started joking about it. It was great.
I was thinking, this time I have to close, this is way too much, I am almost rubbing her pussy while driving, with no resistance.
So again, I set course for my apartment while dodging the police 3 times (my car is kinda illegal lol and I had a glass of wine earlier - zero tolerance for that here).
At some point, with a playful happy voice, she asked: "we are not going back to your place, right ?" I was like "no, of course not" (while driving towards my place). She replied "Ok", giggling. Plausible deniability I though ?
We hit a dark, long, empty road. She was laid back with her arms up holding onto the seat's headrest. I suddenly stopped the car in the middle of the road. We started kissing, zero resistance, very into it, for like 10-15 seconds.
We finally arrived. She was surprised, saying she won't stay. I tried 20 minutes to convince her, no luck.
Drove her back, while listening to "porn" music.. wtf girl.
I was very frustrated and amazed at this point. How could this happen ? What the hell did I do wrong. After all that.. damn. Well, third time's a charm, right ?
3rd meet
During the week I proposed we cook at my place. She jokingly answered "Do you promise not to hit on me ?" - of course, I even promise to take you home, lol
Next Thursday (7 days later), I call her, she forgot, I give her shit. She says it will be fun. We met in 2 hours.
We go shopping for ingredients, get to my place. Things were great, lots of kissing, hugging, caressing, felt sooo good!
I knew cooking is gonna work, ha! Tonight is the night.
Later that night we started watching some videos, laying on some blanket in the living room. Started rubbing her breasts and pussy, she was enjoying it, tried to unzip stuff, but she constantly resisted with a smile (feels like LMRrrrrr). Later at some point, we were kissing while standing, I lift her up and carry her to the bedroom, no resistance, sexy smiles. I lay her on the bed, on her back, me on top. Tried to escalate, LMR. Hello LMR, fuck you. Long story short, even thought we were always falling back into each other's hands and kissing, grabbing her ass, tits, she ended up leaving. We spent like 8 hours or so.
I was actually laughing after she left, I took it as a challenge. A lot of things started running through my head the following days. Started diving into LMR, but didn't manage to finish the articles though - we met again really quick.
4th meet - last night
Saturday, 2 days later. She had an exam, I propose we meet to relax, she replied we better not meet today (it's like a valentine's day here), we laugh it off.
I do my shit, go take a nap in the afternoon, since I woke up really early that day. She did the same - cute.
I was laying in bed when I receive a text from her, around 5PM, asking what am I doing (previously tagging me in some playful facebook post) - Ha, you want me bitch, fine, let's do it.
We chatted, decided to meet. I was trying to come up with some fun/adventurous activity, we started laughing at the fact that this town is no fun. She proposed we just watch something - works for me. Sounds promising!
Grabbed her, stopped by the store, bought some wine.
I noticed right off the bat she was really sweet and lovable. In the car, while talking, she was often touching me, being really cheerful. Made me happy.
We get to my place, kissed her within 10 minutes, smooth sailing. We laid in bed watching some tv shows, she was constantly caressing me, kissing, all that.
I decided to take it slow, take my time, make her comfortable. Touched her everywhere, but didn't try to unzip her pants or bra, no resistance. She mentioned she will leave at some point, I managed to turn her around and lay in bed some more.
Later in the night while in bed, we go in full make out mode, I notice what turns her on, she gets more and more excited, biting her lip, on top of me, rubbing against my dick. Every fucking sign in the world. It was like "Fuck me" written all over her. I try to move things forward again, and surprise surprise, LMR... what the fuck ?!
Anyways, we again fall back into each other's arms, constantly kissing, grabbing her ass, making out again (not as intense as above). All in vain... she, again, ended up leaving.
Man I was really frustrated this time.. I fail to understand it
We chatted a bit when she got home, I joke about not having sex (I realised it might be mistake, but fuck it). She replies along the lines:
It might be all in ruins, but honestly, I don't like to waste my time either, if it's all irreparable, so be it.
Retrospect
I'm pretty much torn. I'm not entirely sure what's happening. Why the fuck is she doing all that sexual stuff if she is "not interested in this sexual aspect".
It's actually my first time hitting LMR, kinda frustrating. Maybe I should've moved faster this last time ?
Not sure how to proceed. Should I keep pushing forward or just give up and stop wasting my time ?
I don't quite understand what she wants or pursues. Is she seeing me as boyfriend material ?
Any ideas on this subject ? I'm clearly inexperienced and I fail to read/understand the situation.
Thank you all,
TA
