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TheEcho

Cro-Magnon Man
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Hi gents!

Questions at the bottom! URGENT

I've followed the site for years (I'm 21 now), and recently bought "Make Girls Chase" and in my first month back at dating after a year, I've had 3 kiss sessions, 1 2nd base, and 1 3rd base (purgatory on earth, living at home and not having that option has made seduction much harder). This report will be about the most recent one, the 3rd base, let's begin!

It's Monday and I'm feeling pretty good as I think about how much I've done in the first month back (definitely fighting to be positive as they all COULD have been LR's, but I digress). I do Postmates for work right now, so I am out and about all day long, at stores, restaurants, people's houses, and it has made coming across girls the most natural thing in the world. I've finally hit a point where I just say "I'm grabbing stuff for a friend" and that's all the girl asks about what I'm doing there (picking up girls I deliver to has still been a challenge, any tips are welcome). So I had a job for a Starbucks and it's right next to a grocery store, so I dipped in there for a moment to grab some Listerine Strips (heaven-sent breath aid). While walking towards the store, I made eye contact with a cute Indian girl, I'll call her Karina, by the Starbucks I'll be going to, then kept going. After coming back to Starbucks, the gods smiled upon me and Karina had just gotten in line in front of me.

We're by a school, and so I asked her if she was a student there, and she said no, she went to blank. I gave her a puzzled look and asked how she ended up here and she said her family lives here. No real signs of anything yet, she'd answer then turn back around. After I ordered, I went to stand by the pickup (hah) area, and ask her what she does and she said a little about being a legal assistant and working for blank with getting funds, so I joked about her needing to beg people for money, and she laughed a bit. Up to this point, NOTHING was showing interest, simply politeness, but i said TO HELL with mediocrity and told her she seemed cool and we should hang out some time. She asked if I had a card, and saw my phone in my hand and just asked for it (lol), so she entered her info, took her stuff to a table, I got my stuff, and I said I'd see her later.

I texted her about 20 minutes later:
Hey Karina, this is Josh! It's a shame we didn't have time to get to know each other better, what's the rest of your evening and week looking like?
Then she responded that it was nice chatting with me and that she has dance later and asked about me. I responded with:
Awesome, I dig it when a girl stays active, maybe you could show me a few moves ;)
I've got some errands to run, then I'm free after that. Is dance pretty much all you have left for today?
Then she told me she didn't have much planned, so my response:
What say we go grab something to eat or drink later? I'd offer to cook, but my roommate situation isn't ideal, or I don't know what your situation is like
She replied saying maybe in an hour or so and asking where to go, so I suggested a place at 8:30 and she agreed

There was a bunch of stuff that lead to her not getting their until 10 (patience is a virtue, albeit a sucky one at times)
  • Me: Cool, I'll be there at 8:30
    Karina: Can we make it 8:45?
    Me: Mmm...alright ;)
    Karina: (40 minutes later) Running late
    Me: No worries
    Karina: (30 minutes later) Sorry I'm so late, do you still have time to meet?
    Me: Yeah, just text me when you get here, or it might be easier to just hang out at your place, I could grab something
    Karina: Ugh I'm having a roommate situation rn. Is your place good? (ARGH!!! WHY MUST I BE AT HOME?)
    Me: We'd have to be super quiet and go to blank. What's yours like, sharing a room, family? If it's family, just head over and we'll figure something out ;)
    Karina: Ok I'll come over
    Me: Alright, let me know when you're here
    Me again:(30 minutes later) Mmm...
    Karina: Almost there promise!!
    Karina: Here
    Showtime

She walks over in a sexy little outfit that shows her bust and hips very nicely, and I come over and hug her and at this point only 1 place is open, so we walk there. We chat a little on the way (never mentioned her being late), and I put my hand on her shoulder at a couple points
We go sit down and there's only couch seats left, and I suggest we sit side by side at a 4-table, which she happily obliges
The conversation went nicely, I pride myself in conversation skill with deep diving and have just had to focus on sexier eye contact and tone. There was touch from both sides (she playfully hit my leg early, smooth sailing gents). The only things of concern (as far as I can tell) was the roommate situation had to do with a girl bringing a dude home the night before (WHY GOD WHY???) and he turned out to be a thief and a weirdo, so that torpedoed my chance of going to her place. Touch was realllllly ramping up and eventually she was pretty on me, with a leg and her arms, so I was calmly pinging the waitress to come take care of stuff ASAP. We left and started walking to our cars to drop off our stuff off, then we both had to use the bathroom, so we went back, and she took a little while.

Here we go! So I used to live right by this area, and I told her of a place I had always wondered about and never been (true, outside of 20 minutes before the date :3 ), so we walked through this park area, she interlocks her fingers with mine when she can, and loops around my arm when she can't. The area was pretty open, with residence buildings around, but we found a bench, and we sat (she sat on the other side of a railing and I tapped my side and she skipped right over), no idea what was talked about, we started kissing and I pulled her onto me, and she was diving her tongue into my mouth, then some people walked by nearby, she didn't react much, but I decided to move her to the "spot". We had to avoid a cleaning lady, so it made it a bit more of an adventure, we had to use an elevator at one point and I leaned against the wall and we made out. As we approached the area (long kind of dark space behind some buildings, looks nice, but still), she was pretty nervous, and this part I could have handled more gently, but we reached the end of the path, then we locked eyes, and I pushed her to a wall (gently) and made out, then flipped our positions and had my leg between hers and I moved it up and down against her.

She is moaning at almost everything, it was so hot, then I moved her to this kind of room at the end of the path, there was no door, but it was more enclosed and we continued. I ran my hands down here (no boobs, though) then went to rub her pussy and she half-heatedly moved my hand away, then eventually I just went in from behind with my hands and she just ate it up. Throughout the whole thing, though, she was definitely stating reservations, that this is bad (this is bad, because I want you so bad). Eventually I could rub her from the front, and then I got down to eat her, but she recoiled a little from that. So continue kissing and touching, then I just decided to take my pants off and "whip it out" (thanks Hector), as all the other girls, I never undressed myself, which I felt would help. I put her hand on me, and I rubbed her (she was wearing a dance onesie, fuck that thing to hell, as we'll see), eventually I pulled out my condom and showed her (maybe not the greatest idea, thoughts?) and she put it on the ground. A little later she started using tongue again, so I took the queue and was just going to dive inside her then pull out and wrap it up, because I knew any break would lead to her closing again. Now, the onesie was hot to look at, but dear god, as soon as you move it to the side, it pops back, and trying to insert while standing and dealing with that, it never happened, and that window closed (baby jesus wai?). From her, she was wanting to leave and I definitely knew I was being really aggressive for the setting (edging toward rapey) so I was definitely trying to be more caring about her with words and touch (https://www.girlschase.com/content/shatt ... on-passion), using a lot from this. Eventually she was walking out, and I was still quite hard, so I asked her to suck it and she reluctently did, for a little while (definitely does not give head, as she said, no finish).

We start walking back to the main area and talk a little, playful, sexy, etc. Then at her car I just ask about "her getting in on that side and I can get in on this side", and she was fully open to that, but wanted to use my car instead, so off we go. We're in the back, and having more intimate conversation, then the touch comes back and she has her legs across mine and there was all kind of sexy to be had, but for the main points: She asked if I believed Indians were drama to date, and I told her I do somewhat observe stereotypes, but when I'm with an individual, it's a blank slate, getting to know them, then parents came up later, and she said she absolutely loved her dad, "it would be almost impossible for another man to fill in his role" I didn't say much about this. I finally had the chance to eat her out (if for but a moment...), my first pussy in nearly 2 years, and she was so insanely sensitive, her legs were also a little cramped due to being in a car, so it was hard to really get in on her clit, so I messed with it some, then dove my tongue in her because I wanted to experience the most of my first pussy in so long. I eventually moved my middle finger in and I couldn't even get my finger tip in without her tensing incredibly, which ended the eating out ( :( ). I eventually lowered my pants again, but she was adamant with the "this is bad" (in response to things turning her on). We dry-humped (this really needs a better name, it's amazing) for a while, and eventually I had her on me and she grinded me cowgirl (no penetration) and I dirty talked her "do you want to feel it inside you? Want to feel me spread your tight little pussy?" and she emphatically said "YES" each time, but refused to do the action. Eventually she exploded into an enormous orgasm, as I held and moved her hips with my hands. Her onesie was now see through and she would no longer let me touch that little girl, she was so sensitive. She also occasionally said "We aren't having sex tonight" "I'm not fucking you tonight" and I'd respond with (playfully) "We definitelly ARE NOT having sex/fucking tonight!" it didn't seem to hurt, but also didn't seem to help how I did it. She also mentioned at one point, quietly, "...stop before I throw away all my standards...", so I'm not sure if there's another guy or what.

Throughout the night, I learned a new favorite phrase (with the right context) "What did you do to me?" (in an extremely cute and relaxed tone) and she would mention how happy "she" was, and we'd talk more with her on me. She refused to take off the onesie, and her boobs felt amazing, but were also so sensitive I had to fight to touch them a moment longer. The rest of the night continued with talking, and her touching mine (sorry Karina, but she had no experience with that). and talking and I'd occasionally push her forward, she'd swithc between cowgirl and reverse, so forward I'd be there with my hard dick, with my condom on with her wet pussy inches away, and I'd initiate the movement and she'd kill it, then reverse, I got to witness her amazing ass on/above my hips, never to enter her. Reverse, I took both her hands in mine, put hers against my dick as I thrusted against the outside of her pussy (still under the onsie.......), but never did it enter.....................................................................................................................

She kept telling me how she felt like she was on drugs and felt high and more of "what did you do to me" (in an amazing, orgasmic way), and we talked and she just turned into a kitten and tucked up against me (FUCK THAT DUDE THAT KEPT ME FROM BEING AT HER PLACE). I felt like king, horny as shit still, but like I did a great thing. her kisses would only be little ones, nothing deep (her entire body seemed to be on edge after that, grabbing her hips at one point made her freeze up hard), and we chatted some, then I initiated the end. I walked her to the car, made sure she could walk on her own (we had joked that if I did enter her after that orgasm, every inch would be a waterfall, and that we saved the world from death by orgasm lol). At her car, she kept giving me the tiny kisses (still on the lips), and I resisted on the last one, but in the end she got it. (it's now 3:30 am on Monday/Tuesday)

I called her when I got home, got no response, so I texted asking to make sure she was home (she was realllllly out of it, and the area was very foggy). I woke up to her reply "Aww I did Tnx! Gnight" the girl was on cloud 9 (and I didn't even need to use my dick ^.^...........D:). Around noon I texted her :
Hey Karina, had a great time last night, hopefully it isn't too hard for you to focus today ;)
, she replied a few hours later ( assuming after work), Lol! yeah it was a fun night (with that happy, winky, tongue out emoji).

NOW here's where I need help:
For some derpy reason I didn't reply to that until the next day (very uncharacteristic of me), when I fully asked her out again, I feel like if I would have just sent this right after her response, I'd have already fucked her brains out, buuuuut...
Then Wednesday, I sent:
"Fun" indeed ;)
What say we keep the ball rolling, when could you do dinner, or when could you make time in your schedule for dinner?

And nothing since...
We're going into Friday, and my plan is to call her around 5:30, but I don't know if that's what I should do, what I would do even when I do call her (just ask her out over phone? seems weird after the ignored text), do I text instead, wait longer? And is there a way I could strongly suggest she convince her roommates to let me come over? (I don't want a do over in the cars, if it can be helped) Also a little worried about what will happen on Halloween, she was talking about it, and I'm relatively confident even if there is a guy, he won't make her feel like I did, BUT if he gets it in, then I just become mute. HALP

Thanks gentleman, all other tips are welcome: reinforcement, constructive criticism, tweaks, etc
Josh
 

Poli

Space Monkey
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First of all great job on the escalation and at least getting to where you got. Remember that none if this would have happend if you didn't say "Fuck Mediocritcy" even though you saw no obvious signals. Use that same mindset on all your other approaches and you will get more of these kind of results. Second I'm no expert on this but I think you should have made her a bit more comfortable for being so wild, it seemed to me like she was feeling a bit guilty especially when she mentioned how she loved her dad(maybe she was thinking what would dad think if he finds out?). I would wait maybe one more day then call her for a normal date and make her feel like you care about her as a person. If you don't get her back it doesn't matter because the imprtant lesson here is your mindset.
 

Big Daddy

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Good shit dude, but you might want to signal hidden information with some bracket, as in [blank]. It took me a while to figure what you were talking about!

Fuck yes, I can relate to roommate situation. It's absolutely horrible. In my case they were worse, as I didn't have ANY place I could do all of the above. I had to rely on timing my pulls and hoping for the best. It cost me a lot of lays as well, but you might have success with it if your situation is any better than mine was.

Some points:

I pulled out my condom and showed her (maybe not the greatest idea, thoughts?)

I vaguely remembering Franco saying to me that it would be better to just bring it up if she objects. You want as little as friction as possible when trying to enter her.

"...stop before I throw away all my standards..."

Actually I just interpreted this is as: "I'm a good girl, shouldn't be doing this on the first date, don't judge me." Or there was some more context to it?

I don't think I have to add because I generally struggle to fuck them at this point, and I feel the times that I passed through LMR was by pure chance and not because I had a system down. Not enough repetition to say for sure.
 

TheEcho

Cro-Magnon Man
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Thanks guys!

I've had a bunch of close-encounters this past month, but finally being in direct contact with a pussy again was really nice. Too bad it fell away, but on to bigger, and firmer, and cuter things ;)

Josh
 

Shadow

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One_of_kind_200 said:
Ugh I thought that you really scored till I read its an Indian girl............. Indian, or brown, girls in general die over White guys. So no challenge there.
Not sure how you made that one up, but pretty sure its all relative.

Either way, @Josh - great execution, you can always do better, but this really sounds like one of those where LMR was like the great china wall.
 
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TheEcho

Cro-Magnon Man
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Over a month later, I saw her number and decided to shoot her a simple text. Come to find out, she's in a relationship, so we now have our answer to the LMR and disappearance
 
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