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[theemann31]

This thread will consolidate my ongoing encounters with the fairer sex for just a bit, until I get laid a few times at least. All suggestions and feedback are welcomed and encouraged.

Walking through an adjacent campus to mine I saw a cute Indian girl and approached (audio link):

https://soundcloud.com/user-412372545/sets/2015_september_week_2


She didn't seem too interested, just seemed like a conservative Indian girl, probably wants an Indian guy and I'm just a buff black dude in a bro tank (she had a nice ass) lol. We cuddled on the bench, traded numbers, hugged, and I got her to text me in person for the number after suggesting meeting up, she said she'd "think about it and get back to me" guess I'll try being persistent here

That's the text exchange so far, I'll suggest a date, time and place for a date later sometime and get that up here. I'll go out tomorrow and hit on more girls and hopefully the audio will cooperate and I can get more stuff up here.

 

[theemann31]

I'll just dump in some shit from last week (13 approaches)

Approached her, talked about nothing for 30 seconds, sat on a bench and cuddled for like 2 minutes, I suggested we play the kissing game and we started making out on the bench, we talked for another 3 or 4 minutes walked around for a bit sat down, cuddled and made out for a bit then I left and she told me she really liked me and wanted to meet my friends. Hopefully when she wakes up she'll read this and agree to the date proposal, or not I'm not going to stress.

First girl I approached last week, we made eye contact walking by, I told her she was cute, we traded names and talked for like 2 or 3 minutes then I proposed we meet up sometime later this week, I gave her my number then she called me and this is the text exchange, I'm pretty sure she is a number flake. tears and tears, I'll move on

This chick Jenna was like the 6th chick I hit on last week, 5' tall and suuuuper hot, saw her walking across the street, ran her down and approached, told her she looked super cute and I had to meet her, chatted for 3 or 4 minutes while walking then I pulled the trigger before she crossed the street, and she agreed to have ice cream on Tuesday at 1 in person, but I believe she's a flake as I've called her (no answer) texted her (no response), I'll try again tomorrow (the day of the date). If she flakes then fuck it, I'll hit on like 30 more girls this week and forget about her sexy ass. :'(

Hit on this other hot chick, Briana, saw her walking by, said hi traded names, gave her the you're cute had to meet you line, sat down and chatted, cuddled tried to make out with her, it was a no go we chatted for like 5 more minutes and I tried to put my number in her phone, she said I might steal it and run off so I let her put her number in my phone and the one fucking time I didn't check the number by calling her and she fucking gave me some random guy's number, he was chill though, he probably got a kick out of it. Guess I'll just go fuck off someplace alone.

god fuck my life, it's a numbers game, I'll keep my chin up, I'll try :|

 

[ray_zorse]

This is all pretty good stuff, sounds like your in-person interactions are reasonably on point, but I think you might be overinvesting a little over text. Try this

You: Hey Julia/Briana this is Josh, I did make it to class on time haha, hbu? [or some other relevant piece of info based on your conversation, "sorry" is unnecessary and "how are you" or "how's your weekend going" is weak and general]
Her: Hi I am ok, already really swamped [this looks a bit bad because she's already setting up an excuse not to hang out, but she may be legit]
You: ahh yeah still got time for that icecream? [don't reward a brushoff with a 5 line text... and set up the date / logistics in small bites]

Or this

You: Hi Candice/Jenna, good to meet a XXX stranger [don't use awesome or any compliments over text, but if you like her or find her interesting say WHY, this is qualifying her]

My personal rule is, if she doesn't respond to the icebreaker she's not down and she's a waste of time. I might have lost a few like this, but I doubt it. Screening for interest is extremely important. It puts you in a much better position come the date -- she might agree to hang out with you and then just sit there fiddling with her phone. This is always a horrible experience. Screening for interest avoids that kind of thing happening.

I would find it easier to comment if you typed out the text messages (and critically the times sent/received) inline, also keep in mind it would be somewhat preferable not to post girls' real names online and to use an alias. For long interactions I tend to use an SMS downloader app, which is available from Android store or similar.

Ray

 

[theemann31]

Thank you Ray, I will and have taken your advice immediately
Here are some more from today: https://soundcloud.com/user-412372545/sets/2015_september_week_2-1

10 chicks hit on 3 numbers gathered.
I'll name her B, B is an attractive white bottle blonde I hit on for like 2 or three minutes then grabbed a number as she was going to be late for class to talk to me. Here is the text exchange

B: HER NAME 1:10 pm
B: 1:11 pm
Me: Great meeting you B 2:03 pm
B: Great meeting you too! 3:35 pm

She responded to the icebreaker so tomorrow I'll avoid giving her a weak "how are you text" or "I'm sorry text" and I'll give her something more fun and not 5 lines long, I'll use punctuation and a smiley. She was really pretty, and not mean or shallow like most guys say bottle blondes are.

I also met a super fine girl, R for short, I saw her walking behind me after talking to another girl (J) and I approached her with the same line (sorry no audio for her), talked and walked for like a minute sat down and touched her for 2 or 3 minutes and talked, tried to make out with her after lots of eye contact and smiles (would've been a dream come true) but it was a no go, talked more and touched her more then called it quits on a high point and suggested we meet up later, she agreed, we traded numbers with a text from her to me, I sent her an ice breaker but no response. So tomorrow I'll do kinda the same as for B with the fun short text with a callback to the conversation, she was in the pre veterinary program and in yoga so I'll do something fun with maybe the yoga. She was gorgeous, maybe something will happen with her, maybe.

J was kind of in a rush, told me she was kinda single but talking to someone, we traded numbers and she sent me a heart in person, I gave her an icebreaker "Nice meeting you - Josh" about 10 minutes later and no response so we'll see, she was cute and taller than me by like 2 inches, but whatever, a fun text as a callback to our chat and maybe she'll bite, either way I'll hit on more women and get better.

Update: Julia from above sent me a message today about 18 hours after my last pathetic one in the previous post

Julia: Things are just so hectic right now, how about if I let u know when a good time is 5:52 pm
Me: Sure, go ahead and do that 11:28 pm

Update: the hot girl Jenna who agreed to a date on Tuesday flaked on me of course, I even called her at the time of the date and no response, but no harsh feelings as I've got more women to look forward to setting up dates with and more women to approach this week.

Updates: I doubt Candice wants to see me again or anything so I'll forget her, Gerpree is probably a no go as well. On to new women!

 

[theemann31]

Dude I love your ballsiness haha. How long have you been at this stuff?

Thanks, I've been doing it actively for just a few weeks now, 3 weeks into this semester of college and I'm trying to make something happen for myself. I'm trying hard.

A couple more approaches today, none turned into anything: https://soundcloud.com/user-412372545/sets/september_week2_2015
But whatever, just gotta keep going, each attempt gets me one step closer to my goal, just keep at it.

I called all the numbers of the girls who flaked, none picked up and I left them all short but sweet scripted voicemails. I really wanted R to answer the call but too bad :,( I will persist with these girls relentlessly in a suave, nonchalant for weeks or months while meeting new women to see what will happen.

 

[JPWorld]

Josh/Theemann

This is some super solid stuff, you're killing it!

You've obviously read Chase's text article, https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-text-girl, as you're asking for the meet-up straight away, almost too soon, I thought. I try to aim within 5 texts, build up a tiny bit of rapport or give a snippet from your previous face-to-face convo to put her at ease a bit. Also a few things I just quickly noticed.

The first is use a bit more colourful language and punctuation. A few - and ...! help make it seem less stilted/ordinary when reading.

The other, which you may have done but just not mentioned (or I missed) is the 'pre-date text' about half an hour before hand. "Hey Julia, 2pm still good? Maybe be a few minutes late...!"

If she doesn't reply you know the situation even better and may not even need to leave the house (unless you really feel like she'll be there).

Same as Radeng with the kissing, overall rates mean you get a kiss but less likely a shag - try and tease them and wait out for the kiss at your place. Unless you just want to go out on a kissing streak haha

Just my two cents,

- JP

 

[theemann31]

Where did I go wrong?

I had a little extra time after an interview and went to a college nearby to meet some women. I went around and approached a few and grabbed some numbers. One of which was a really hot girl on the track and field team with a tight body who handles the javelin.

I stopped her and said hi then gave her the same old line on her being adorable and I had to meet her, she thanked me and blushed and we chatted for about 3 minutes. She was standing in front of me visibly getting turned on swinging her hips from side to side (couldn't keep still), couldn't stop smiling and holding eye contact, said she liked my physique (you could see the outline of my abs through my shirt that day) and let me touch her all I wanted to and then told me she would spear me with her javelin if I didn't treat her right (to which I said I'd spear her if she did treat me right

Then I told her I would be late for a design review later and had to leave but I thought it was cool that she took good care of herself and her body, was such a cool chick and was super cute (hot really, definitely a 9) so we should grab a bite to eat or some coffee later this week. She smiled and immediately agreed to the proposal and I reached for her pocket thinking her phone was in it but it wasn't and I just rested my hand on her hip to smooth it out (she didn't mind at all). Put my name and number in her phone (when she handed it to me) and she shot me a text then and there and suggested we meet up soon, tomorrow (today) was good for her so we planned on meeting at her campus Tuesday at 1 and hugged and left.

I later called her before the date and got her voicemail. I then texted her about an hour and a half before the date and she told me she had to delay things and ultimately flaked. Here's the text exchange:

M: NAME! 3:35 pm
Me: Awesome meeting a cutie like you M! 3:46 pm
Me: Hey M, hope your morning has been great! When you get to OU I'll meet you under the bell tower at 1. See you soon! 11:30 am
M: I have weight lifting at noon! idk how long it will take 11:31 am
Me: Text me when you're done lifting and ready for me to swing by 11:38 am
Me: It's a bit too late for us to meet up today :/ You doing alright after all that lifting? 4:44 pm

So I thought I did everything right there. But she flaked on me which means I fucked up AGAIN It seems like I just keep fucking up, over and over and over.
Where did i go wrong?

 

[theemann31]

I'm up and at em!

Audio: https://soundcloud.com/user-412372545/sets/september_week3_2015

 

[theemann31]

http://stitchandshare.com/rSgOiP6OqwU Text exchange that wrapped up a bit ago, this is a complete reversal from the other girls who don't reply.

It's a shame that Altair left, all he had to do is what I'm doing and eventually he'd get laid. Just have fun hitting on some hunnies

 

[theemann31]

This is some super solid stuff, you're killing it!

Thanks!

Another Flake!

I got Shiv on my last audio batch, I believe she was the first one. She flaked on our date this evening lol. But I'm not sweating it. I've got a date set up with Jazzy (she's a 9 without trying) and I am 100% she won't flake and I'll try to get back in contact with M (the hot chick in track and field) now that some time has passed and I'll meet more girls on top of that.

Text Exchange with Shiv: http://stitchandshare.com/ccCnudwMBwU
Maybe I was too harsh when dealing with this flake and maybe I tried to reschedule a date too bluntly or overwhelmed her with logistics. I'm still learning and trying to feel this fun stuff out

Also on one of those audio's I ran into Reili, one of the first girls I met that I missed on audio before but got now after I got Cristina's number (who gave me some married guy's number named Steve lol, he got a kick out of it) if you catch that at the end I spent like 4 or 5 minutes with her and I touched her soooo much, hugged her twice and held her, rubbed my hands all over hers and her arms after I asked to see her hands and she kept giggling and laughing and told me she was heading to her dorm room now so I started walking with her there then gave up and told her she was awesome and I wanted to see her again. But it looks like she is really busy in life and can't date me :'( It's a shame because she is one in a million but I won't get focused on just her, as you can see I have others

Every date flake gets me one step closer to getting past this plateau and I'm loving the ups and the downs!

 

[PrettyDecent]

Eman,

Long time, no talk, brother!

You're well on your way to becoming an incredible seducer. All these approaches and numbers are giving you reference points that you can use to reflect on. If you combine that with working smart, you're going to bust through your plateau.

The first thing we'll want to tweak is your texting. Girls are incredibly socially calibrated, and texting is a hard medium to convey the right emotions, especially if you're still working on your social fundamentals and calibration. For this reason, I very much recommend you use the template that Chase uses with texting. You won't lose any girls that were interested on you via this route + you get more practice on dates. And dates are far more valuable for your learning curve than learning the nuances of texting.

You're mindset is always postive, and that's a big plus for your learning curve.

~Nick

 

[theemann31]

You're well on your way to becoming an incredible seducer. All these approaches and numbers are giving you reference points that you can use to reflect on. If you combine that with working smart, you're going to bust through your plateau.

Thanks for the kind words Nick

Two flakes now, the date I setup with Jazzy... Okay, picture this:

You meet a girl, she's fine has a spunky and warm personality and is all around sexy, you flirt with her upon approaching. She tells you she likes you and wants to see you again, takes down your number. 2 hours later she texts you her name and a pleasantry, you two set up a date 5 days in the future.
You casually text each other and she excitedly responds to each text with long enthusiastic messages. You are eager to see her
Then on the day of the date you're eager as hell to see her again in the flesh and talk, touch her etc. but she tells you she can't make it as she has to run errands. You feel crushed and disappointed, you really wanted to see her, then before you can respond you get another message saying she has a boyfriend and wants to just be friends...

My situation exactly, it feels really really bad. That night I went out with my friends and got approached by three hot girls, they touched my hair and told me it was really cute. I picked the older cute one and flirted with her for 5 or 6 minutes as my friend awkwardly stood by watching me hit on a fine woman, told her I wanted to see her after this, maybe for coffee, she agrees and says Sunday is best, gives me her number and tells me to call her. I call her the next day.. no answer, leave a voicemail. I call the next day, no response again. I call her Sunday morning... no response, send a text... no response. Once again it feels bad to have this happen to me.

The day of the flake with Jazzy we were scheduled to go out at noon so instead I went out and approached 16 girls at a nearby college and 7 girls agreed to go out on a date with me so I collected their numbers.

The first thing we'll want to tweak is your texting. Girls are incredibly socially calibrated, and texting is a hard medium to convey the right emotions, especially if you're still working on your social fundamentals and calibration. For this reason, I very much recommend you use the template that Chase uses with texting. You won't lose any girls that were interested on you via this route

I went ahead and did this, waited 2 hours after the outing and sent them all an icebreaker text:

Wonderful to meet you, new friend -Josh

Then waited 2 days and sent them follow up cold text/date asks:

Hope your weekend's been great, NAME! Mine's been chill...solid and restful, just what the doctor ordered! =) What say we grab that bite we talked about later this week - when's good for you schedule-wise?

No answers, well one girl did:

Me: Nice meeting you Mai! 12:47 pm - Josh
Mai: Nice meeting you too! 12:48
(2 days later) Me: Hi Mai! Hope your day went well after you bro picked you up. I Swung by a cool FCA event at Eastern Market and had a blast =) Shall we grab that bite we talked about - when fits into your schedule? 1:37 pm
Mai: Thanks 5:09 pm
Mai: I'm at work at the moment haha 5:09 pm
Me: Sounds fun, when wioll you be free? 5:12 pm
Mai: Lol I'm not sure haha 5:50 pm

Not sure what to do there, probably another flake (like the many others)

You're mindset is always postive, and that's a big plus for your learning curve.

Kinda hard to stay positive sometimes... just saying.

So that's the weekly report, approached like 24 or 25 girls, got 9 numbers 2 date flakes, this weeks got me feeling deflated but every flake gets me a step closer right? yes! So what must I tweak to change the way women respond to me?

 

[theemann31]

In case you care for audio: https://soundcloud.com/user-412372545/sets/september_week4_2015

 

[thedude]

hey dude, keep it up! I'm going through the same shit right now. My hair is long too and I've been getting lots of compliments and attraction..... but I can't fucking nail a date haha.



Also, how do you go about recording these conversations?

The only thing I have is my iphone with a recording app. Do you do it a different way?

 

[theemann31]

FU here, should've gone for more

hey dude, keep it up! I'm going through the same shit right now. My hair is long too and I've been getting lots of compliments and attraction..... but I can't fucking nail a date haha.

Thanks bro =)

Also, how do you go about recording these conversations?

The only thing I have is my iphone with a recording app. Do you do it a different way?

Yeah, I bought a $10 usb drive that has a microphone in it and put it on a small chain that used to have a fake bullet on it. Quality is not the best but, it's 10 bucks right?

Had two dates, with the same girl of course I met out cold approaching. The first date was fun and all we grabbed ice cream and talked then went to the community area of her college and cuddled and kissed on a public couch and I dropped her off at her room and kissed her goodnight.

The second date I met her outside her dorm building, we went into the building but her roommate was sleeping so we couldn't go in, we sat and chatted for a while inside while an episode of Scooby Doo was playing, the plan was to watch a movie in her room and chill but with the roommate problem we went to the theater nearby and watched "The Walk" and kissed in the theater. Afterwards we went back to her room, the plan was I'd just walk her back but we stepped in and her roommate wasn't there..

Here's the FU in my opinion and the complications. The dorm was 1 tiny TINY room with two bunk beds with desks at the bottom, a closet and nothing else, no furniture or TV or any poster on the wall, just a bare tiny box. So to get to the bed we'd have to climb the stairs/ladder thing and get on the bed where the ceiling is so low you'd hit your head if you sat up straight enough. She sat down under the desk and went on her phone for a bit, so I teased her a bit on the size of the dorm (it was claustrophobic) and her Detroit Lions hat.. I felt like I should've tried to do more with her but I stood there leaning against the beds support and she sat there underneath, I didn't know what to do and didn't want to just stand there the whole night so I bid her farewell, she stood up and walked over to me and we hugged and she gave me a tiny kiss on the lips so I told her she wouldn't get off with that and tried to make out with her to a little success as I got bored kissing her without doing anymore and held her and looked for a split second contemplating more but in the moment couldn't think of what to do to get her up on her bed and said bye and left... with regret I didn't try more.

Well at least I broke through my sticking point, but I wish I got laid too, I wish I knew what to do and had the balls to just.. well.. FUCK HER! lol