Frequently AMOGged: How to Deal with Guys Cutting You Off w/ Girls?

[Igor]

Imagine you are being on a social gathering and everybody is solo and just met. I’ll tell you what happend:

I saw a beautiful girl sitting alone and decided to talk to her. Just having some easygoing smalltalk to break the ice. Another random guy was listening to our conversation and started to introduce himself to us. Of course I know this dude is only interested in her. He was asking (I was sitting beside her) if she had plans and if she already got dinner. He was then asking her instagram and inviting her for a dinner later.

How would you react in such situations?

above is hypothetical but I had many similar situations wherein was speaking with her and another guy took her away by inviting for a dinner or drink (without inviting me too ofc)

 

[Rakehell]

Couple things @Igor.

I’m not sure what part of the world you are in, but direct competition like you’re describing is unusual. If it’s common it speaks to a few things.

• Doing your thing in social gatherings where people are more comfortable with interjecting and joining in on conversations.

Here it’s perfectly socially acceptable for people to want to join in on the conversation. Not everyone here will have ulterior motives, assuming that everyone has intentions on lifting your target is a projection and going out of your way to shut them down will come across as needy. You need to hang back, be polite but not too engaging. You also need to make sure you aren’t dragging your feet when it comes to making your intentions known beforehand. If you are just talking and not locking her in or seeing if anything’s there she will have no reason to blow other people off and look to keep talking just to you. Comes across like you’re just building rapport without keeping your eyes on the goal of doing anything. If you’re just pinging her for interest and it’s bad timing to go for anything substantial, get in and out don’t sit around building rapport.

• Again, you appear to be dragging your feet and there’s no connection being formed

If you’re just holding small talk, and appear as two strangers with her not looking too engaged, guys will feel alot more comfortable trying to lift your girl from you. Because she doesn’t appear to be your girl. When she’s attracted and engaged you don’t have to worry about guy’s jumping in because she will fend them off herself, all you have to do is maintain the appearance of there being no openings for someone to jump in. If they still try, ignore it the first time, if they keep pressing then they’ll appear awkward for doing so. If she engages them, maintain some aloofness like you're drifting away, she’ll let their convo end or try to get you in it if she wants to get back to you, and the guy will bow out because he’s interrupting, as long as you don’t do too much to make him feel validated in interjecting. Don’t be insulting but don’t be so welcoming either. Keep it polite but appear like you’re zoning out. But this only works if you aren’t dragging your feet in building a connection.

 

[Licker]

Still assuming you are not trolling bro.
He's made similar posts like this before @Rakehell and advice has been given by many already.
Best to leave this one alone.

 

[Rakehell]

@Freakester I get it, think I was one of those guys with the advice.

But it’s a problem with practical solutions that anyone having similar issues in the future may find useful.

Do agree that this guy feel’s like someone who isn’t really asking for advice with the intentions of using it, since his scenario was entirely hypothetical.

Maybe one of the moderators can change the title of the thread so it’s more accessible and others who really deal with things like this can get some value out of it without making an entirely new thread on the same subject. @POB @Will_V @Bismarck

 

[Igor]

@Freakester I get it, think I was one of those guys with the advice.

But it’s a problem with practical solutions that anyone having similar issues in the future may find useful.

Do agree that this guy feel’s like someone who isn’t really asking for advice with the intentions of using it, since his scenario was entirely hypothetical.

Maybe one of the moderators can change the title of the thread so it’s more accessible and others who really deal with things like this can get some value out of it without making an entirely new thread on the same subject. @POB @Will_V @Bismarck

Let me clarify this. Generally speaking, for some reason I got AMOGGED a lot and this is affecting my frame and confidence. Especially when you are in the first stage of meeting a women, an intruder can completely messing up your game. That is why I want to be better prepared for such situations.

For you the situation might be different, I can imagine if you are already a skilled alpha, the AMOG would think twice before he is actively starting to compete with you. Worth noting that I'm a more shy beginner and being a short skinny guy makes me a easier target.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_intrasexual_competition

 

[Igor]

Couple things @Igor.

I’m not sure what part of the world you are in, but direct competition like you’re describing is unusual. If it’s common it speaks to a few things.

• Doing your thing in social gatherings where people are more comfortable with interjecting and joining in on conversations.

Here it’s perfectly socially acceptable for people to want to join in on the conversation. Not everyone here will have ulterior motives, assuming that everyone has intentions on lifting your target is a projection and going out of your way to shut them down will come across as needy. You need to hang back, be polite but not too engaging. You also need to make sure you aren’t dragging your feet when it comes to making your intentions known beforehand. If you are just talking and not locking her in or seeing if anything’s there she will have no reason to blow other people off and look to keep talking just to you. Comes across like you’re just building rapport without keeping your eyes on the goal of doing anything. If you’re just pinging her for interest and it’s bad timing to go for anything substantial, get in and out don’t sit around building rapport.

• Again, you appear to be dragging your feet and there’s no connection being formed

If you’re just holding small talk, and appear as two strangers with her not looking too engaged, guys will feel alot more comfortable trying to lift your girl from you. Because she doesn’t appear to be your girl. When she’s attracted and engaged you don’t have to worry about guy’s jumping in because she will fend them off herself, all you have to do is maintain the appearance of there being no openings for someone to jump in. If they still try, ignore it the first time, if they keep pressing then they’ll appear awkward for doing so. If she engages them, maintain some aloofness like you're drifting away, she’ll let their convo end or try to get you in it if she wants to get back to you, and the guy will bow out because he’s interrupting, as long as you don’t do too much to make him feel validated in interjecting. Don’t be insulting but don’t be so welcoming either. Keep it polite but appear like you’re zoning out. But this only works if you aren’t dragging your feet in building a connection.

You are saying that I should be much more direct and start flirting with her instead of building some comfort and rapport first, right? But the risk is that you might go too fast.

Still you have some guys who are try to flirt with her while being together. Once I had a date, went to the restroom, came back and there was this waiter asking for her IG. I did nothing, but it affected my frame knowing that he would message her and might ask her out.

 

[Rakehell]

Let me clarify this. Generally speaking, for some reason I got AMOGGED a lot and this is affecting my frame and confidence. Especially when you are in the first stage of meeting a women, an intruder can completely messing up your game. That is why I want to be better prepared for such situations.

For you the situation might be different, I can imagine if you are already a skilled alpha, the AMOG would think twice before he is actively starting to compete with you. Worth noting that I'm a more shy beginner and being a short skinny guy makes me a easier target.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_intrasexual_competition

Well yeah I can’t help you there, it’s not really something I can say I have to deal with.

You are saying that I should be much more direct and start flirting with her instead of building some comfort and rapport first, right? But the risk is that you might go too fast.

It’s how these guy’s are beating you to the punch. You have to cross the line a few times to know when you’re overreaching, I wouldn’t really worry about “moving too fast”.

If she’s allowing these guys to swoop in and is giving you the cold shoulder, then you’re moving too slow, and or she was never interested.

 

[Chase]

@Igor,

You’ve got to learn how to tool these guys.

If a guy’s coming into your set, you need to be able to AMOG him. Genuine compliments are typically all you need: “Hey man, I love that shirt! Unique design!” “That’s a great tattoo, buddy. What’s it mean?”

Then after the guy responds, you just say, “Cool, cool,” then behave as if you’ve gotten a bit bored with him and go back to talking to the girl.

When you compliment the guy, he is forced to engage with you, because you are being nice. At the same time you are being the AMOG. The alpha male of the group judges. He is the one approving or disapproving of everything/everything. When he responds to your compliment, he is buying into your frame that you are allowed to compliment him, and instead of him talking to the girl, it is now a you-him conversation.

When you then respond in a chill way to his response, then drift attention away from him and back to the girl, shutting him out again, you then force him to have to try and engage the girl (or you) a SECOND time. He is having to do a double-approach now, which DLVs him by a lot because he failed to take command of the interaction the first time around.

You can actually repeat the process if he’s really insistent. You just give him slightly more attention before cutting him off the second time to not seem like it’s a complete repeat of the first time around. e.g.:

You and girl talking​

HIM: [to girl] Hi, how you guys doing?​

[don’t break circle; wait for her to. If she does not, just keep ignoring him]​

HER: Hi!​

YOU: What’s up man. I love that haircut. Very trendy.​

HIM: Thanks man!​

YOU: [nodding your head, waiting to see if he says or does anything else]​

HIM: So what are you guys up to tonight?​

YOU: We’re just chilling, brother. Who’re you friends with here?​

HIM: My buddy Jim over there invited me.​

YOU: Oh, right on. [wait a moment; then turn back to girl] So anyway [pick up thread from earlier]​

HIM: [trying to reopen the two of you] So how do you guys know each other?​

YOU: We go way back. I used to chase her around the neighborhood when we were five. Crazy times. [give her a wink]​

HIM: Oh wow that’s crazy.​

YOU: Yep, yep. [wait for a moment, and if he says nothing else you return to the girl and pick up your last thread again]​

If you come back and some dude is grabbing your date’s Instagram, whatever.

He’s not going to do anything with it. He’ll send her a few DMs and get left on read.

You’re out with her in-person. He’s trying to get her using “the power of social media” (lol).

You don’t even need to address that guy. The most I might do is give her an eyebrow flash as I sit back down as the guy is walking off. No need to even say anything unless she does. e.g.:

YOU: [sit down, flash eyebrows]​

HER: It turns out he went to the same university as me.​

YOU: Sounds like you guys are peas in a pod!​

HER: [laughs] I told him to add me on Instagram.​

YOU: Another follower to add to the ol’ account, ay?​

HER: [laughs] Yep!​

YOU: Anyway, you would not believe that bathroom. The urinals are shaped like seahorses! [change topics]​

Just treat these guys like what they are: dudes coming up to hover around and try to sniff for blood.

So long as you aren’t bleeding, you’re not in any trouble here.

Chase

 

[Tryst]

@Igor,

You’ve got to learn how to tool these guys.

If a guy’s coming into your set, you need to be able to AMOG him. Genuine compliments are typically all you need: “Hey man, I love that shirt! Unique design!” “That’s a great tattoo, buddy. What’s it mean?”

Then after the guy responds, you just say, “Cool, cool,” then behave as if you’ve gotten a bit bored with him and go back to talking to the girl.

When you compliment the guy, he is forced to engage with you, because you are being nice. At the same time you are being the AMOG. The alpha male of the group judges. He is the one approving or disapproving of everything/everything. When he responds to your compliment, he is buying into your frame that you are allowed to compliment him, and instead of him talking to the girl, it is now a you-him conversation.

When you then respond in a chill way to his response, then drift attention away from him and back to the girl, shutting him out again, you then force him to have to try and engage the girl (or you) a SECOND time. He is having to do a double-approach now, which DLVs him by a lot because he failed to take command of the interaction the first time around.

You can actually repeat the process if he’s really insistent. You just give him slightly more attention before cutting him off the second time to not seem like it’s a complete repeat of the first time around. e.g.:

You and girl talking​

HIM: [to girl] Hi, how you guys doing?​

[don’t break circle; wait for her to. If she does not, just keep ignoring him]​

HER: Hi!​

YOU: What’s up man. I love that haircut. Very trendy.​

HIM: Thanks man!​

YOU: [nodding your head, waiting to see if he says or does anything else]​

HIM: So what are you guys up to tonight?​

YOU: We’re just chilling, brother. Who’re you friends with here?​

HIM: My buddy Jim over there invited me.​

YOU: Oh, right on. [wait a moment; then turn back to girl] So anyway [pick up thread from earlier]​

HIM: [trying to reopen the two of you] So how do you guys know each other?​

YOU: We go way back. I used to chase her around the neighborhood when we were five. Crazy times. [give her a wink]​

HIM: Oh wow that’s crazy.​

YOU: Yep, yep. [wait for a moment, and if he says nothing else you return to the girl and pick up your last thread again]​

If you come back and some dude is grabbing your date’s Instagram, whatever.

He’s not going to do anything with it. He’ll send her a few DMs and get left on read.

You’re out with her in-person. He’s trying to get her using “the power of social media” (lol).

You don’t even need to address that guy. The most I might do is give her an eyebrow flash as I sit back down as the guy is walking off. No need to even say anything unless she does. e.g.:

YOU: [sit down, flash eyebrows]​

HER: It turns out he went to the same university as me.​

YOU: Sounds like you guys are peas in a pod!​

HER: [laughs] I told him to add me on Instagram.​

YOU: Another follower to add to the ol’ account, ay?​

HER: [laughs] Yep!​

YOU: Anyway, you would not believe that bathroom. The urinals are shaped like seahorses! [change topics]​

Just treat these guys like what they are: dudes coming up to hover around and try to sniff for blood.

So long as you aren’t bleeding, you’re not in any trouble here.

Chase

This is a really clear and concise explanation of AMOG tactics. Could you talk about the strategy in cases like:

HER: Hi!
YOU: What's up man. I love that haircut, very trendy.
INVADER: Haha thanks bro, I get that like 5 times a night, it's crazy. I think I'm gonna become a model or something. Oh hey, I need a quick female opinion...

And then the invader starts initiating threads with your girl. Of course you can't just sit and wait for him to say his piece - he might DHV. If you try to jump into the conversation, he can politely snub you - just like you show in your example. How do you wrestle the conversation back when the invader actually has a little bit of game, and is initiating his own threads which the girl is enjoying?

I have used "Hey man, we're just in the middle of something right now, come back in like 3 minutes, yeah?" which has good effect - if the guy doesn't just straight up leave (lol) they quite clearly react to what I said and lose value. It's a very polite way of initiating the AMOG combat. But what I'm trying to ask about is what to do when you can't quite bait the other guy at all to react to you and begin the AMOG battle, rather he just sticks happily to his own thread, and the girl converses happily with him? How do you get back in? How do you stop it from happening in the first place?

I have my own experiences, but I'd love to hear your PoV.

- Tryst

 

[Chase]

@Tryst,

@Gunwitch has a great set of AMOG tactics here.

My response to a guy trying to barrel right past me is the same as I said in that thread. I will (assuming I have good rapport with the chick) lean into her and have a small joke at the guy's expense. e.g.:

HIM: Hey guys! Sorry to interrupt, but I need a quick female opinion...​

HER: Hi!​

YOU: What's up man. I love that haircut, very trendy.​

HIM: Haha thanks bro, I get that like 5 times a night, it's crazy. I think I'm gonna become a model or something. Oh hey, I need a quick female opinion...​

YOU: [leaning in to whisper to her] Man, this guy's like a mile a minute!​

HER: [laughs]​

From there if he persists you can just AMOG him on whatever his tech. If he's doing opinion openers, you do it like this:

HIM: Well you see, my buddies and I were all discussing who lies more, men or women, and we thought we really need to get a woman to weigh in.​

YOU: What's this for, man? Do you work for Gallup or Rasmussen?​

HIM: Nah, it's just a conversation we were having. Anyway, I'd really like to get a female opinion on...​

YOU: You're going to at least buy her a drink if she answers this for you, right?​

If he says "no", then you just go, "Yeah, okay," in a kind of moderately disgusted way and back turn him a little bit and focus on talking with the girl. If he says "yes", then you tell him "Then proceed" and let him run his spiel. If he tries to stack it into something else, once the opinion opener is done you tell him "I think it's time you went and got her that drink. Hey get one for me too!" If he tries to tell her to come with him you quickly interrupt and say, "Nah, we're fine over here. You just bring the drinks over once you've got 'em."

Normally I wouldn't be this rude, but a dude coming up and trying to run game on a chick you're already talking to and ignoring social cues gets the full anvil-to-the-face AMOG treatment.

Basically you are just shit testing him on everything he is saying, the same way a bitchy cockblocking friend would shit test you if she did not like your approach. After he fails a few tests he looks really bad. Then you just back turn him and physically crowd him out as you talk to the girl and force him to move around and try to re-engage.

The general end result is the girl will end up laughing at him and treating him like he is a sad socially retarded little puppy, even if she was initially somewhat receptive to him.

Chase

 

[Tryst]

@Tryst,

@Gunwitch has a great set of AMOG tactics here.

My response to a guy trying to barrel right past me is the same as I said in that thread. I will (assuming I have good rapport with the chick) lean into her and have a small joke at the guy's expense. e.g.:

HIM: Hey guys! Sorry to interrupt, but I need a quick female opinion...​

HER: Hi!​

YOU: What's up man. I love that haircut, very trendy.​

HIM: Haha thanks bro, I get that like 5 times a night, it's crazy. I think I'm gonna become a model or something. Oh hey, I need a quick female opinion...​

YOU: [leaning in to whisper to her] Man, this guy's like a mile a minute!​

HER: [laughs]​

From there if he persists you can just AMOG him on whatever his tech. If he's doing opinion openers, you do it like this:

HIM: Well you see, my buddies and I were all discussing who lies more, men or women, and we thought we really need to get a woman to weigh in.​

YOU: What's this for, man? Do you work for Gallup or Rasmussen?​

HIM: Nah, it's just a conversation we were having. Anyway, I'd really like to get a female opinion on...​

YOU: You're going to at least buy her a drink if she answers this for you, right?​

If he says "no", then you just go, "Yeah, okay," in a kind of moderately disgusted way and back turn him a little bit and focus on talking with the girl. If he says "yes", then you tell him "Then proceed" and let him run his spiel. If he tries to stack it into something else, once the opinion opener is done you tell him "I think it's time you went and got her that drink. Hey get one for me too!" If he tries to tell her to come with him you quickly interrupt and say, "Nah, we're fine over here. You just bring the drinks over once you've got 'em."

Normally I wouldn't be this rude, but a dude coming up and trying to run game on a chick you're already talking to and ignoring social cues gets the full anvil-to-the-face AMOG treatment.

Basically you are just shit testing him on everything he is saying, the same way a bitchy cockblocking friend would shit test you if she did not like your approach. After he fails a few tests he looks really bad. Then you just back turn him and physically crowd him out as you talk to the girl and force him to move around and try to re-engage.

The general end result is the girl will end up laughing at him and treating him like he is a sad socially retarded little puppy, even if she was initially somewhat receptive to him.

Chase

Whilst this would work on the majority of guys, I'm talking about cases where the invader actually has some game. You go for the haircut compliment, and he uses it to establish his own thread and slightly snub you "Yeah man, I get that 5 times a night." then go straight into his own stuff. He's like, for example, "so yeah my buddy Steve could never get laid until he changed his name..." and your girl is responding well to and enjoying his threads. And you obviously trying to tool him with the drink stuff looks tryhard.

I've done this obvious tooling before on guys who have game, and sometimes they get triggered and blow themselves out. Sometimes they just... ignore the bait, and now I lose value. I remember one time where the girl said to me "Hey, be nice." Obviously, this means I kept the girl - but is it really good that the girl even noticed me trying to tool the invader? It shows that I care, that I'm reacting.

If the guy is genuinely cool and nice (has game), has ignored your bait:
Him: Well, who lies more-
YOU: Gallup or Rasmussen?
Him: [Ignoring you. addressing girl directly] Men, or women?
YOU: You're gonna buy her a drink if she answers this?
Him: If you shush so she can answer I might buy you one! (or if the girl just answers the question, he can totally ignore your drink attack)

Now you turn your back and try to talk to the girl, but what if she actually enjoys the thread. If a guy has game, he's gonna be on threads which he knows girls enjoy, whereas you, deeper into rapport, might be on some chill low energy thread. Now all the stuff you mention in the message is gonna come off as reactive or tryhard. It would work on a boring guy who reacts to everything you say, but not necessarily on a guy with some game.

I think there has to be a more subtle way. Whispering in your girls ear is a great way of damaging the invaders state. Setting bad frames in a fun way, rather than asshole way, like "Hey man, I'll give you £20 to take this girl off me!" "Hey man, we were just chatting, I really suck at picking up girls, can you show me how to do it with her?" (I prepare this one beforehand talking about how shy and scared of women I am, as I massively escalate kino, grabbing her and rummaging my hands over her body. Because you frame the whole thing as a joke you get a ton of free kino and then you can use "show me how to get girls" as a great AMOGger later)

I feel like you have to initiate threads with him that actually force him to respond and chat with you, and then win the amog battle. If you just keep making snide comments to the girl, or genuinely rude assholish stuff like "hey bro, go and get me a drink" (which he can totally just ignore or be like "yeah bro. Anyway[...]" you're gonna come off as clearly reacting, clearly mad, clearly worried about the invader. While he's just chillin and hanging with your chick. You need to force a response from him so he can't just chill and game. Imo.

- Tryst

 

[Chase]

@Tryst,

Well, two scenarios here:

1. The girl is shit testing you using this guy as a pawn.
   
   
2. The girl is legitimately more into him / not that into you.

In Scenario #1, it depends how hard she’s testing you and what the reason is. For instance, girls who are flirts may engage with a guy for a few minutes just to see if you get jealous or clingy or start pouting. If you sense a girl is doing this, you just chill out, let them talk, and act like you’re bored, unless it goes on too long. Generally girls who are doing this will try to engage both of you (that is the ‘tell’).

You can also have harder tests, where the girl is closer to auto-rejection, like if you took too long to pull her (i.e., missed escalation windows / moving too slow) or went a little too crazy with your jealousy plot lines. Girls doing this will usually avoid interacting with you or actually back turn you, while acting too excited about what the guy is saying relative to how good he actually is. (from the guy’s perspective, he feels like, “Wow, I can’t believe how well this girl is reacting!” — but the purpose is to test you hard)

You know it is this one if the girl was into you and has been talking to you for a long time, but it’s sort of stalled out and ALL OF A SUDDEN she is ignoring you to drool over this new interloper. If it seems out-of-character for her, it is probably a shit test / she is pissed off at you for some reason (some low attainability move you made).

Harder tests you can try engaging the guy to get him focused on you, just in normal chill conversation. Most guys will have trouble ignoring you, since most guys default to “man = leader” when regarding man-woman pairs. Players may ignore you though. If you suck the guy away, and the girl is hard-testing, she may attract / open ANOTHER guy while you are dealing with the first. Then you have to roll off Guy #1 and handle Guy #2… then #3… etc. Thus the best solution for this (whether dealing with normal guys or players) is chatting up another GIRL yourself, ideally without leaving the first girl’s side. Once you notice Girl #1 staring at you instead of ignoring you, it’s time to smoothly reengage with her (then pull her ASAP before she does it again!).

In Scenario #2, you’re screwed if his game is on-par with yours or better.

If it isn’t, you can just wait for him to screw up with her, at which point she will turn her attention back to you and most guys will eject. Most guys cannot run perfect game for 10+ minutes straight… it’s like 1 in 3,000 guys who are able to do that. If you run into the rare dude capable of it, your best bet again is preselection.

However, if she is genuinely much more into him, and he has at-your-level of game or better, and he is not screwing up, then the only way preselection is going to work is if the other girl is much HOTTER than the first girl and is very OBVIOUSLY into you. A relaxed chat with a cutie isn’t going to cut it if the first girl is really into him. She will just view it as a “cute attempt” by you, but she knows your game is lower level than this guy’s and that the girl is less hot than she is, so… “have fun with your new cutie, honey, while I have fun with mine!”

You’re in the most danger of another guy actually stealing your girl away early on in the pickup, before the girl is committed to the interaction with you. Mystery had something he called the 3-Minute Rule to get around this — the rule just says you should not make any approach where you think you might be interrupted within the first 3 minutes.

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If it is happening to you a lot early on (e.g., inside 3 minutes or so), you need to strategize your approaches better so you are not entering situations you leave yourself vulnerable to being poached from.

If it is happening to a guy later than that, and it is happening often enough to be a problem, he is probably missing something that is obvious to other men — missing escalation windows and sending girls into auto-rejection, or missing rejection signals (prompting other men to come in and “save her” from him), etc.

Unfortunately there is no magic pill for a Scenario #2 “win an AMOG battle when the guy has equal or better game to you AND the girl likes him more.” The magic pill is called “improve your game & fundamentals so guys you encounter don’t have equal or better game than you and also girls like YOU better.”

Also, about your dialogue example with the player type:

If the guy is genuinely cool and nice (has game), has ignored your bait:
Him: Well, who lies more-
YOU: Gallup or Rasmussen?
Him: [Ignoring you. addressing girl directly] Men, or women?
YOU: You're gonna buy her a drink if she answers this?
Him: If you shush so she can answer I might buy you one! (or if the girl just answers the question, he can totally ignore your drink attack)

You need sharper verbal game than this to win against typical player types.

Should be:

HIM: Well you see, my buddies and I were all discussing who lies more, men or women, and we thought we really need to get a woman to weigh in.​

YOU: [WAIT FOR HIM TO FINISH; DO NOT CUT HIM OFF] What's this for, man? Do you work for Gallup or Rasmussen?​

HIM: [IGNORING YOU, ADDRESSING GIRL DIRECTLY] So what do you think, is it men or women?​

YOU: [IGNORING HIM, ADDRESSING GIRL DIRECTLY] This guy's really serious about finding out the bigger liar, isn't he?​

HER: [LAUGHS AT YOUR JOKE AT HIS EXPENSE, THEN ANSWERS HIS QUESTION FOR HIM] Ummm, women?​

HIM: See that's what my friend said. But what I said was while I think men tell MORE lies, their lies are little lies, like "No, those pants don't make your ass look fat!"​

YOU: [TALKING TO GIRL] He's going to tell you women tell bigger lies like "It's your baby!"​

HIM: Hey man, do you mind? We're trying to have a conversation!​

YOU: Oh I'm sorry. Please, continue!​

Then just continue your running commentary on his game to the girl and piss him off even more.

Better game (than the example you posted with the player guy) is a.) NOT cutting him off before he has a chance to say a long piece (you want him to expend more energy, so he is more invested in what he is saying, THEN hijack the conversation by asking him what it is for), then b.) NOT staying focused on trying to talk to him IF he ignores you and does not take the bait. Instead, if he is going to pretend you ARE NOT THERE and focus entirely on the girl, you are free to treat him as if HE is not there and just say whatever you want about him to the girl.

(your goal here is to provoke the guy and make him look uncool)

Personally, I love these retarded-tier "I'm too cool to talk to other men" playboy wannabes who try talking to a girl I am with while ignoring me. Within half a minute I will be telling girls the most ridiculous things about them within earshot of the guy: "Watch out, this guy spits when he talks. I just got hit by like 3 drops." So long as he is focused on trying to run his game to the girl and you can just sit there and troll him, you can just make the girl laugh her ass off at this guy while he can't do anything about it because he is stuck running his "too cool to talk to men" program. Eventually he will have to address you directly, at which point he is generally going to be all flustered and easy prey for you to knock down.

Again though, this all comes back to game level. Your game needs to be good enough to know, for instance, "When a guy ignores me I shouldn't keep trying to talk to him and tool him because that is making me look worse." You need to have superior strategies.

Hope that helps!

Chase