[FROM CHASE'S MAIL] What does moving TOO FAST mean and how does one recover?

[PaulieFlyn10]

Hey guys... so Chase sent out a mail about something I've struggled with - that's moving too fast.

Apparently after some dates I felt like I moved too fast.

For example, on a first date with a girl we gave each other kisses on the cheeks. But each time I tried to kissing her lips, she'd smile or laugh then gently pull away.

We ended the date and I felt like I rushed it. I gave too much "I'm just here for the fuck" vibes and I didn't build enough comfort & emotional connection

Any ideas on how to "recover" ?

 

[Skills]

best way to recover is to not make mistakes in the first place moving too fast = your escalation timing was off and sloppy escalations or a combination.... Based on your example a combination...

When women encounter bad escalation you telegraph lack of experience.......

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

best way to recover is to not make mistakes in the first place moving too fast = your escalation timing was off and sloppy escalations or a combination.... Based on your example a combination...

When women encounter bad escalation you telegraph lack of experience.......

Thanks for the reply and Yes, I agree. I also feel I'm coming off as someone who just wants to have sex.

Unfortunately, mistake has been made though... any ideas or suggestions on how to turn it around?

 

[DoWhatWorks]

For example, on a first date with a girl we gave each other kisses on the cheeks. But each time I tried to kissing her lips, she'd smile or laugh then gently pull away.

We ended the date and I felt like I rushed it. I gave too much "I'm just here for the fuck" vibes and I didn't build enough comfort & emotional connection

Any ideas on how to "recover" ?

1. For the most part when you're new - don't kiss girls on dates unless you're isolated and can fully escalate to sex.

Only exceptions is if she clearly wants you to kiss her and she'll go into auto-rejection if you don't.

2. Next time it happens when on the date, reign yourself back, laugh and have a warm confident smile, then carry on the conversation like nothing happened. If you do this right there's a good chance her attraction will increase.

My ex-girlfriend of 2 years rejected the first time I tried to kiss her *shrugs*

3. If this is after the date - make a date proposal that's "cute" and "safe" but still low effort.

For example I failed to sleep with a girl x2 different dates. For the third date I suggested we go to the zoo and we had just a really fun wholesome time. Her defenses were lowered as it was clear I wanted to get to know her and she slept with me with no LMR at all.

Understand that the cute date tactic will only work if you did everything else right and she actually likes you

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

1. For the most part when you're new - don't kiss girls on dates unless you're isolated and can fully escalate to sex.

Only exceptions is if she clearly wants you to kiss her and she'll go into auto-rejection if you don't.

2. Next time it happens when on the date, reign yourself back, laugh and have a warm confident smile, then carry on the conversation like nothing happened. If you do this right there's a good chance her attraction will increase.

My ex-girlfriend of 2 years rejected the first time I tried to kiss her *shrugs*

3. If this is after the date - make a date proposal that's "cute" and "safe" but still low effort.

For example I failed to sleep with my Ex when I was 19 on x2 different dates. For the third date I suggested we go to the zoo and we had just a really fun wholesome time. Her defenses were lowered as it was clear I wanted to get to know her and she slept with me with no LMR at all.

Understand that the cute date tactic will only work if you did everything else right and she actually likes you

1. For the most part when you're new - don't kiss girls on dates unless you're isolated and can fully escalate to sex.

Only exceptions is if she clearly wants you to kiss her and she'll go into auto-rejection if you don't.

2. Next time it happens when on the date, reign yourself back, laugh and have a warm confident smile, then carry on the conversation like nothing happened. If you do this right there's a good chance her attraction will increase.

My ex-girlfriend of 2 years rejected the first time I tried to kiss her *shrugs*

3. If this is after the date - make a date proposal that's "cute" and "safe" but still low effort.

For example I failed to sleep with a girl x2 different dates. For the third date I suggested we go to the zoo and we had just a really fun wholesome time. Her defenses were lowered as it was clear I wanted to get to know her and she slept with me with no LMR at all.

Understand that the cute date tactic will only work if you did everything else right and she actually likes you

Thanks a lot bro...

Let's say the mistake has been made with a particular girl and now she's pulling away (leaving texts on read)

What are your suggestions to reengage and have another shot?

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Thanks a lot bro...

Let's say the mistake has been made with a particular girl and now she's pulling away (leaving texts on read)

What are your suggestions to reengage and have another shot?

You’re welcome man.

The answer you intuitively know but don’t want to hear is that it’s over & you should move on.

We’ve all been there, if you got a date with her then you can get a date with someone else

 

[Fuck This]

Tease her, tease her, tease her. Don't get to a point where she will say "no". You need her DESIRE to override her reluctance....

Safe kino, sensual but non sexual. Don't try to grope. Pretty soon she will throw herself at you and you better be ready for it.

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

You’re welcome man.

The answer you intuitively know but don’t want to hear is that it’s over & you should move on.

We’ve all been there, if you got a date with her then you can get a date with someone else

Lol... that hurts a little but no matter the outcome, I'll go on dates with other girls

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Tease her, tease her, tease her. Don't get to a point where she will say "no". You need her DESIRE to override her reluctance....

Safe kino, sensual but non sexual. Don't try to grope. Pretty soon she will throw herself at you and you better be ready for it.

Thanks bro...

Will let her be for a while then hit her up later