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kristian said:
Hey dude, one question:
Do you introduce yourself before delivering the compliment or vice versa as Chase suggests?
Hey dude, one question:
Do you introduce yourself before delivering the compliment or vice versa as Chase suggests?
-jumok93
I do what Chase suggests by giving them a compliment before introducing myself.
But I put something else before introducing myself, I just see that some girls get very intimidated so I usually say (with a smile) "I hope I did not scare you, but I just had to say it" after giving my compliment and before introducing myself.
This put them much more at ease and makes them want to invest. When I don't put that in between the social pressure seems to be too great and they excuse themselves and leave the conversation. So just putting that line in between ups my number percentage by 30%.
But of course, this is just being used recently now that my fundamentals has improved a lot. I just have to take some edge of my approach just to not be seen as too intimidating. Making girls nervous is quite new for me and this is just a thing I applied recently. I started this game being too harmless, now I am just balancing my badassnes with some humility
I do what Chase suggests by giving them a compliment before introducing myself.
But I put something else before introducing myself, I just see that some girls get very intimidated so I usually say (with a smile) "I hope I did not scare you, but I just had to say it" after giving my compliment and before introducing myself.
This put them much more at ease and makes them want to invest. When I don't put that in between the social pressure seems to be too great and they excuse themselves and leave the conversation. So just putting that line in between ups my number percentage by 30%.
But of course, this is just being used recently now that my fundamentals has improved a lot. I just have to take some edge of my approach just to not be seen as too intimidating. Making girls nervous is quite new for me and this is just a thing I applied recently. I started this game being too harmless, now I am just balancing my badassnes with some humility
What a nice week.
I might be a little impatient sometimes, but I have to remember that I am having a lot of progress lately. After my course last weekend, I went out for some day game on Monday. I approached a lot of girls, had several number and FB-close and even got my first instant date. We vibed like crazy and thinking back, I should just have aimed to seal the deal right then and there. I tried to schedule a date with her, but she hasn't responded that way. Only maybe, and I don't go for maybes.
I have also had some cool day game approaches as well. I will continue talking to lots of girls and see if I can meet more and maybe have a date or two.
I also had three amazing night with Audur, the girl I met more than a year ago with Terje at a cafe. We almost had sex a month ago, and the same day we met now (2. june) she broke up with her boyfriend. We had a great time together. We had sex 10 times in three days, and she thanked me a lot for giving her a great time. Now she is in Iceland because she have to work the whole summer. This is good. I will have a lot of opportunities to meet new girls and have amazing new experiences.
I might be a little impatient sometimes, but I have to remember that I am having a lot of progress lately. After my course last weekend, I went out for some day game on Monday. I approached a lot of girls, had several number and FB-close and even got my first instant date. We vibed like crazy and thinking back, I should just have aimed to seal the deal right then and there. I tried to schedule a date with her, but she hasn't responded that way. Only maybe, and I don't go for maybes.
I have also had some cool day game approaches as well. I will continue talking to lots of girls and see if I can meet more and maybe have a date or two.
I also had three amazing night with Audur, the girl I met more than a year ago with Terje at a cafe. We almost had sex a month ago, and the same day we met now (2. june) she broke up with her boyfriend. We had a great time together. We had sex 10 times in three days, and she thanked me a lot for giving her a great time. Now she is in Iceland because she have to work the whole summer. This is good. I will have a lot of opportunities to meet new girls and have amazing new experiences.
Fun days and a lot of approaching lately. I haven't got anything solid though, it might be because I don't always go through the whole process when I daygame. Sometimes I just give them a compliment, sometimes they are on a rush, and sometimes they have a boyfriend.
I was going on a walk with Grazyna, and opened a lot of girls. I also discovered one thing when I am out; smiling and looking warmly at girls helps a lot. A lot of them looked nervous and smiled back, and some girls could be opened from my initial smiling approach.
I should do this every time I am out, and just start saying hi before opening them. I also see that the girls that now are checking me out are prettier than previous girls, and the women I used to think were cute before are just meh now. That cool, thats proof that I am getting better at this.
Tomorrow I will continue doing the same thing. Smiling and looking warmly at all the girls I find cute and just opening them whenever I see them. I will go for numbers and try to set up dates as soon as possible.
But I am also patient. My fundamentals are just getting better, and even though I am not quite confident at night game at least I am getting a lot of IOIs when I am out. So that's cool, I guess.
Goal for tomorrow:
Fundamentals and state.
Smiling warmly at girls and opening the ones I find cute.
Going for number and dates.
Being patient, this will become a part of me at the end.
I was going on a walk with Grazyna, and opened a lot of girls. I also discovered one thing when I am out; smiling and looking warmly at girls helps a lot. A lot of them looked nervous and smiled back, and some girls could be opened from my initial smiling approach.
I should do this every time I am out, and just start saying hi before opening them. I also see that the girls that now are checking me out are prettier than previous girls, and the women I used to think were cute before are just meh now. That cool, thats proof that I am getting better at this.
Tomorrow I will continue doing the same thing. Smiling and looking warmly at all the girls I find cute and just opening them whenever I see them. I will go for numbers and try to set up dates as soon as possible.
But I am also patient. My fundamentals are just getting better, and even though I am not quite confident at night game at least I am getting a lot of IOIs when I am out. So that's cool, I guess.
Goal for tomorrow:
Fundamentals and state.
Smiling warmly at girls and opening the ones I find cute.
Going for number and dates.
Being patient, this will become a part of me at the end.
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Social Momentum
Hi Kristian,
What I disvovered lately: when I talked to one or two girls in the beginning of an outing for warm up and those conversations went pretty well I automatically have a big smile (almost grin) on my face when I keep walking.
Then exactly what you described happens - other girls become more receptive and send more IOIs than before when I was still "in my head" and looking serious or even intimidating.
I like to refer to Chase's book HTMGC in which he compares this kind of state with a day on which you feel like a million bucks because of some extraordinary event.
Social Momentum is very very important for me to have and it works wonders.
Hi Kristian,
What I disvovered lately: when I talked to one or two girls in the beginning of an outing for warm up and those conversations went pretty well I automatically have a big smile (almost grin) on my face when I keep walking.
Then exactly what you described happens - other girls become more receptive and send more IOIs than before when I was still "in my head" and looking serious or even intimidating.
I like to refer to Chase's book HTMGC in which he compares this kind of state with a day on which you feel like a million bucks because of some extraordinary event.
Social Momentum is very very important for me to have and it works wonders.
-jumok93
Awesome that you are seeing the same patterns as me. It is very important to be warm when going out to meet girls. My first 2 -3 approaches are warmups, something I clearly saw yesterday when I approached 6 girls. The first 4 were just for starters, but the 5th was the best.
I also saw something that I discovered as well: I look at a girl, give her a smile and if she smiles back or look down (a sign of submission) it means I can approach and see what happens. Often these girls are more open for me to talk, but I also see that being direct makes them interested, but they don't answer when I text them. It could be that the culture here in Norway is not conducive for day game. Norwegians are very cliquy, and it is difficult to get good results doing cold approach without alcohol. But I like it that way, I am learning to flirt a lot more, and girls are looking at me with more interest than ever.
I had an amazing approach with my 5th girl yesterday. She was clearly into what I was saying, but had a boyfriend, something I am getting a lot lately. I think I have to get back to coffe shop approach. Its easier and results are better, but I like street cold approach because its more exiting.
Giving women the x-factor and exuding sexuality is nice, but I can only pull this off when the girl is new and alone and I am in the mood. I had a date today, but could not manage to make it all happen. I think I have to start only approaching new girls from now.
Awesome that you are seeing the same patterns as me. It is very important to be warm when going out to meet girls. My first 2 -3 approaches are warmups, something I clearly saw yesterday when I approached 6 girls. The first 4 were just for starters, but the 5th was the best.
I also saw something that I discovered as well: I look at a girl, give her a smile and if she smiles back or look down (a sign of submission) it means I can approach and see what happens. Often these girls are more open for me to talk, but I also see that being direct makes them interested, but they don't answer when I text them. It could be that the culture here in Norway is not conducive for day game. Norwegians are very cliquy, and it is difficult to get good results doing cold approach without alcohol. But I like it that way, I am learning to flirt a lot more, and girls are looking at me with more interest than ever.
I had an amazing approach with my 5th girl yesterday. She was clearly into what I was saying, but had a boyfriend, something I am getting a lot lately. I think I have to get back to coffe shop approach. Its easier and results are better, but I like street cold approach because its more exiting.
Giving women the x-factor and exuding sexuality is nice, but I can only pull this off when the girl is new and alone and I am in the mood. I had a date today, but could not manage to make it all happen. I think I have to start only approaching new girls from now.
One thing I also discovere from my date. Caroline was keen to hook up last time we met, but now she isn't that interested. She crossed her arms and put things in between us (like her glass of wine and her arms). I will be more on the look for those kind of signals from now on.
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Norway -- Germany
Oh so you're from Europe as well. I am from Germany and facing a similar issue when doing day game. During the night and when the girls are drinking alcohol (I am sober most of the time) it all seems to work better for me.
I remember that you mentioned once that you like day game better than night game. May I ask you why? (Because for me it's much easier during the night)
One further question: How do you open most of the time and in which language (Norwegian or English)?
I find it strange to do for example a genuine interest opener in German as it sounds odd when I translate it literally.
kristian said:
Oh so you're from Europe as well. I am from Germany and facing a similar issue when doing day game. During the night and when the girls are drinking alcohol (I am sober most of the time) it all seems to work better for me.
I remember that you mentioned once that you like day game better than night game. May I ask you why? (Because for me it's much easier during the night)
One further question: How do you open most of the time and in which language (Norwegian or English)?
I find it strange to do for example a genuine interest opener in German as it sounds odd when I translate it literally.
- jumok93
It's just that I find night-game more intimidating. There are just too many moving parts to consider like them drinking, friends cockblocking, other guys, loud music and so on. At the same time I had some cool interactions with women from night game the nights I actually go out and put some effort. It's just feels a little harder to begin with and it feels like it has a lot to do with my mindset and inner confidence that night.
Day game seems more natural for me. I can do it on my way to work, from work, commuting and just walking around. Girls have more time to talk, of course, but being sober and having an experience they usually never have makes them sometimes want to eject. I talked to an American friend about this and he tells me girls in USA like being approached during daytime a lot better than northern European girls.
So I guess both ways have their pros and cons. I think it's a matter of personal taste though. A friend of mine that is amazing in clubs sucks during day time. But I think you can transfer the skills from day game to night game and vice versa. But for now I am sticking to day game until I get it down while increasing night game as I become better.
What are your experiences in Germany?
Being from Norway and doing day game here I am usually the only guy approaching women. I've only seen a couple of other guys doing the same the last year, but usually girls never get approached this way. So now I am working on not coming too strong and showing genuine interest.
It's just that I find night-game more intimidating. There are just too many moving parts to consider like them drinking, friends cockblocking, other guys, loud music and so on. At the same time I had some cool interactions with women from night game the nights I actually go out and put some effort. It's just feels a little harder to begin with and it feels like it has a lot to do with my mindset and inner confidence that night.
Day game seems more natural for me. I can do it on my way to work, from work, commuting and just walking around. Girls have more time to talk, of course, but being sober and having an experience they usually never have makes them sometimes want to eject. I talked to an American friend about this and he tells me girls in USA like being approached during daytime a lot better than northern European girls.
So I guess both ways have their pros and cons. I think it's a matter of personal taste though. A friend of mine that is amazing in clubs sucks during day time. But I think you can transfer the skills from day game to night game and vice versa. But for now I am sticking to day game until I get it down while increasing night game as I become better.
What are your experiences in Germany?
Being from Norway and doing day game here I am usually the only guy approaching women. I've only seen a couple of other guys doing the same the last year, but usually girls never get approached this way. So now I am working on not coming too strong and showing genuine interest.
Field report:
Brunette with nice ass:
Went out on my way to work. Some friends started shouting my name. I went to say hello and when I turned around I saw this woman with the perfect body checking me out from the other side of the street. My friend noticed this and told me she was digging me, I tried to shout at her and tell her to stop, for a moment she hesitated, but continued walking. I quickly ended the conversation with my friends and went, almost running, after her. But when I came up the street she disappeared. This girl was showing interest from across the street, but the timing wasn't right. Bummer :/
Blonde weightlifter
After not finding the brunette, I saw a blonde girl walking in front of me. She was wearing training clothes that accentuated her figure. I thought I had the energy to just start giving her a compliment. I talked to her and told her I found her cute. She said thanks and I said I was walking the way as her.
-So what did you do on a day like this?
She: - I was just working out.
-Cool. Where you lifting weights or where you doing cardio?
She: I was just lifting weights, doing some squats.
-I used to work out a lot. My favorite exercise are deadlift. I just love how it involves many muscles at the same time.
She: I can't do that. I have a back injury so I have to do alternative exercise for that.
After that she started to talk about her past as a handball player. She quit the sport because of her height (handball is very physical and you need some size). I told her I watched handball as a kid, but now I not a sport type of person and that now I am doing mostly arts (hoping she would take the bait). She did not, and I had a feeling she wasn't all that into me from the start. But what the heck, I ask her out anyways.
She declined saying she had a boyfriend. But that she was glad that I gave her the initial compliment.
I now know much better a girls interest levels from the very beginning of the interactions. Now I am just trying to see if that's right from the very get go. But I now this much better after around 350 approaches
No I will go out some more. And get a couple more experiences.
Brunette with nice ass:
Went out on my way to work. Some friends started shouting my name. I went to say hello and when I turned around I saw this woman with the perfect body checking me out from the other side of the street. My friend noticed this and told me she was digging me, I tried to shout at her and tell her to stop, for a moment she hesitated, but continued walking. I quickly ended the conversation with my friends and went, almost running, after her. But when I came up the street she disappeared. This girl was showing interest from across the street, but the timing wasn't right. Bummer :/
Blonde weightlifter
After not finding the brunette, I saw a blonde girl walking in front of me. She was wearing training clothes that accentuated her figure. I thought I had the energy to just start giving her a compliment. I talked to her and told her I found her cute. She said thanks and I said I was walking the way as her.
-So what did you do on a day like this?
She: - I was just working out.
-Cool. Where you lifting weights or where you doing cardio?
She: I was just lifting weights, doing some squats.
-I used to work out a lot. My favorite exercise are deadlift. I just love how it involves many muscles at the same time.
She: I can't do that. I have a back injury so I have to do alternative exercise for that.
After that she started to talk about her past as a handball player. She quit the sport because of her height (handball is very physical and you need some size). I told her I watched handball as a kid, but now I not a sport type of person and that now I am doing mostly arts (hoping she would take the bait). She did not, and I had a feeling she wasn't all that into me from the start. But what the heck, I ask her out anyways.
She declined saying she had a boyfriend. But that she was glad that I gave her the initial compliment.
I now know much better a girls interest levels from the very beginning of the interactions. Now I am just trying to see if that's right from the very get go. But I now this much better after around 350 approaches
No I will go out some more. And get a couple more experiences.
- jumok93
Another thing about genuine interest and language; I always do them in Norwegian, unless she is from somewhere else and doesn't speak the language. I don't find it difficult at all and just tell them I find them cute (if they're young) or give them compliment based on something interesting (works better on older girls).
My advice to you would be; just make your own twist in your mother tongue, and after all its more weird when they find out that you're German later in the interaction (assuming you're German).
How long have you been day gaming and how many sets, may I ask?
Another thing about genuine interest and language; I always do them in Norwegian, unless she is from somewhere else and doesn't speak the language. I don't find it difficult at all and just tell them I find them cute (if they're young) or give them compliment based on something interesting (works better on older girls).
My advice to you would be; just make your own twist in your mother tongue, and after all its more weird when they find out that you're German later in the interaction (assuming you're German).
How long have you been day gaming and how many sets, may I ask?
I did not approach as many women as I intended to. It might be that I am making a lot of excuses. But the evening is young and I will eventually go out with my friend and will have plenty of opportunity to approach then. The thing is that I will do this on LSD, so I hope to remember the lessons then. From earlier outings (twice on LSD) ive seen that I can retain a lot of the lessons. I will take a little less than I usually do, so it should work out fine
At work I was interviewing random people from the streets, and I had an aha-moment. What if I do the interviewer approach on daygame? This is a little different than picking up women, but if I use some of the teachings from my interview approaches I could get some different (and hopefully) better results.
I stopped three attractive girls walking down the street. And said the following.
I think saying this, but being to the point, having good eye contact and more energy will make girls invest more. I just have to transfer some of the interviewer stuff to daygame. They might invest more and start asking questions back. Lets see how that will work out
At work I was interviewing random people from the streets, and I had an aha-moment. What if I do the interviewer approach on daygame? This is a little different than picking up women, but if I use some of the teachings from my interview approaches I could get some different (and hopefully) better results.
I stopped three attractive girls walking down the street. And said the following.
I think saying this, but being to the point, having good eye contact and more energy will make girls invest more. I just have to transfer some of the interviewer stuff to daygame. They might invest more and start asking questions back. Lets see how that will work out
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My Experience
So far I did about 50-100 approaches and the first time I did this was about four (4) months ago. It's not much but next week (after my last exam) I will start to approach a lot more and more regularly!
I know that when one is used to day game it is a much more reliable resource of quality women than during the night. Because during the night it's only a certain (small) percentage of women who go to bars and clubs regularly. So eventually I will have to focus on day game as well.
I guess the reason why I find day game harder is that (in Germany) nobody does it. Actually I have never seen anybody do this here!
Another reason might be that I always found it much easier to use body language instead of spoken words. That's why it's much easier for me to open non-verbally, e.g. holding out my hand in a club and thus asking a girl for compliance if she wants to dance with me.
What happened to me lately (during day game) was a girl who asked me if this scenario was being taken on camera or if I had lost a bet. I suppose she saw similar stuff on youtube (pranks etc. - Vitalyzdtv comes to my mind).
This eject or escape reaction is a phenomenon I can witness myself. Happens a lot actually. Sometimes the girls ignore me or they become rude (may be an attainability issue though).
What I have difficulties with:
- opening with genuine interest (most of the time it's situationally)
- introducing myself early on
- going for the number or setting up an instant date
So far I did about 50-100 approaches and the first time I did this was about four (4) months ago. It's not much but next week (after my last exam) I will start to approach a lot more and more regularly!
I know that when one is used to day game it is a much more reliable resource of quality women than during the night. Because during the night it's only a certain (small) percentage of women who go to bars and clubs regularly. So eventually I will have to focus on day game as well.
I guess the reason why I find day game harder is that (in Germany) nobody does it. Actually I have never seen anybody do this here!
Another reason might be that I always found it much easier to use body language instead of spoken words. That's why it's much easier for me to open non-verbally, e.g. holding out my hand in a club and thus asking a girl for compliance if she wants to dance with me.
What happened to me lately (during day game) was a girl who asked me if this scenario was being taken on camera or if I had lost a bet. I suppose she saw similar stuff on youtube (pranks etc. - Vitalyzdtv comes to my mind).
kristian said:
This eject or escape reaction is a phenomenon I can witness myself. Happens a lot actually. Sometimes the girls ignore me or they become rude (may be an attainability issue though).
What I have difficulties with:
- opening with genuine interest (most of the time it's situationally)
- introducing myself early on
- going for the number or setting up an instant date
jumok93
One quick question, how is your approach anxiety right now?
The reason I am asking is because when I first get challenges meeting women on the street it has to do something with my mindset. When I fall for the trap of picturing the conquest long before I even talk to her, I start being a little ackward and cannot deliver my genuine interest in a natural way.
One way I combat this is always starting my days giving girls compliments. My first 3-4 interaction is just me noticing something beautiful in a woman (clothes, smile, walk etc) and just saying it without trying to move things forward. It helps a lot and get me in the mood of becoming natural, theres no fear of failure then. After that I can start approaching women with a goal in mind, like a number, insta date or so.
Daygame is something almost nobody does here in Norway either, and the guys ive seen doing it do not come off as natural. So I think you have to start implementing daygame into everyday routine until it become a part of you. Girls tend to pick on that, and they start giving you good reactions/results.
Do you write a journal? I recommend you to do this pronto as you will learn a lot in a short amount of time. Its fun, and gives you opportunity to analyze what went wrong or right on an outing.
One quick question, how is your approach anxiety right now?
The reason I am asking is because when I first get challenges meeting women on the street it has to do something with my mindset. When I fall for the trap of picturing the conquest long before I even talk to her, I start being a little ackward and cannot deliver my genuine interest in a natural way.
One way I combat this is always starting my days giving girls compliments. My first 3-4 interaction is just me noticing something beautiful in a woman (clothes, smile, walk etc) and just saying it without trying to move things forward. It helps a lot and get me in the mood of becoming natural, theres no fear of failure then. After that I can start approaching women with a goal in mind, like a number, insta date or so.
Daygame is something almost nobody does here in Norway either, and the guys ive seen doing it do not come off as natural. So I think you have to start implementing daygame into everyday routine until it become a part of you. Girls tend to pick on that, and they start giving you good reactions/results.
Do you write a journal? I recommend you to do this pronto as you will learn a lot in a short amount of time. Its fun, and gives you opportunity to analyze what went wrong or right on an outing.
Some of the findings today;
If I gaze at a womans eyes and smile. 9 out of 10 times she will give me IOIs. I can then start approaching.
I also met a spanish girl at the park. I started just talking to her about food, and ended up getting her number.
Me: Do are you married?
Her: No, but I have two boyfriends, no three.
Me: With me its going to be four. (With a smile)
Her; Well see about that.
Me: Smiles at her and start talking about her country.
After that she was trying hard to deep dive with me and said yes to have a date. Her mother was there as well, so it could have an impact on her afterwards. I sent her a message asking about how the park was and how her schedule looks like next week. Lets see what she responds.
I also had a talk with an Iranian girl. She was selling jewelry and looked latina. I instantly gave her a compliment about her looks and started talking with her about her country of origin. I was keen to buy some of her jewelry so I said I was comin back (I had to get back home to grab my credit card.) I came back and saw that she was very nervous.
Me: So I am back. Thank you for nice jewelry (after buying) it.
Her (nervous): Thank you.
Me: So how do I say thank you in persian?
After that we had a nice talk about spanish and persian (I speak spanish as well, so I gave her a quick lesson). She started smiling a lot more and I grabbed her card. I told her I was going to take her out on a date She smiled even more and we were vibing good. I left her then and sent her a message. Lets see what happens.
And after that I was having a lot of eye contact with girls. Smiling and sending them warm feelings, they instantly catch that and give me IOIs. So sending good vibes from the heart is key here. Theres no faking it, no shortcut. I just have to show them my love. And the rest will be taken care of.
I am also very infatuated with a lot of women lately. I just want to be their lover SO BAD. And they sense it. Its cool, its under the radar, but intense and breathtaking.
If I gaze at a womans eyes and smile. 9 out of 10 times she will give me IOIs. I can then start approaching.
I also met a spanish girl at the park. I started just talking to her about food, and ended up getting her number.
Me: Do are you married?
Her: No, but I have two boyfriends, no three.
Me: With me its going to be four. (With a smile)
Her; Well see about that.
Me: Smiles at her and start talking about her country.
After that she was trying hard to deep dive with me and said yes to have a date. Her mother was there as well, so it could have an impact on her afterwards. I sent her a message asking about how the park was and how her schedule looks like next week. Lets see what she responds.
I also had a talk with an Iranian girl. She was selling jewelry and looked latina. I instantly gave her a compliment about her looks and started talking with her about her country of origin. I was keen to buy some of her jewelry so I said I was comin back (I had to get back home to grab my credit card.) I came back and saw that she was very nervous.
Me: So I am back. Thank you for nice jewelry (after buying) it.
Her (nervous): Thank you.
Me: So how do I say thank you in persian?
After that we had a nice talk about spanish and persian (I speak spanish as well, so I gave her a quick lesson). She started smiling a lot more and I grabbed her card. I told her I was going to take her out on a date
She smiled even more and we were vibing good. I left her then and sent her a message. Lets see what happens. And after that I was having a lot of eye contact with girls. Smiling and sending them warm feelings, they instantly catch that and give me IOIs. So sending good vibes from the heart is key here. Theres no faking it, no shortcut. I just have to show them my love. And the rest will be taken care of.
I am also very infatuated with a lot of women lately. I just want to be their lover SO BAD. And they sense it. Its cool, its under the radar, but intense and breathtaking.
I skipped going to work today. Called sick and after meeting a couple of my friends I took the train and went to the woods. Just needed some time by myself, and look into myself and my game lately.
I found out I just have to quit looking to date girls I had something with in the past or from my social circles. It doesn't help at all and if I don't make them my lover by the second time we meet, I have to accept only being their friends or moving on.
My last two dates have been with women I know. I have had sex with the last one before, but it has been long ago, so, for now, I will just stop seeing her. I can't be wasting my time on girls I like that won't have sex with me. Unless they give me some other value that I want, but most girls these days just don't have any value for me.
So I am setting a new rule; I will only date new women. If I haven't made someone my lover by the second date, Ill forget them. This will make me push myself harder, and I will not be hard on myself if she turns me down (less probability of that happening too). Meeting girls from cold approach should be my priority, not hanging out with women I already know.
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I also had an approach today. A girl I smiled at, she did not smile back, but looked at me with curiosity in her eyes. I took it as an approach invitation.
Me: - Excuse me.
She: Looks confused at me. Is listening to music, but takes away her earplugs.
Me: I just past you by, and had to tell you.... I find you cute. Kristian is my name.
She: Alex. Thank you.
Me: Alex?
She: For Alexandra. I only speak English.
Me: So where are you from?
She: I am from Bulgaria.
And then I started to tell her about my Bulgarian friand Georgiev. She knew who he was. I wanted to make a conversation and started talking about my music (since Georgiev plays piano). She left after my musical rant. It might be that me telling her about this come off as bragging.
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But at least I am getting better at looking at girls, and smiling at them. I am also getting a lot of IOIs and feel a lot more attractive. I also found out that my texting game need some upgrade. I have been texting longer than some other girls. And more frequently. I need to keep being the non-chaser. I dont chase girls and it has to stay this way.
I found out I just have to quit looking to date girls I had something with in the past or from my social circles. It doesn't help at all and if I don't make them my lover by the second time we meet, I have to accept only being their friends or moving on.
My last two dates have been with women I know. I have had sex with the last one before, but it has been long ago, so, for now, I will just stop seeing her. I can't be wasting my time on girls I like that won't have sex with me. Unless they give me some other value that I want, but most girls these days just don't have any value for me.
So I am setting a new rule; I will only date new women. If I haven't made someone my lover by the second date, Ill forget them. This will make me push myself harder, and I will not be hard on myself if she turns me down (less probability of that happening too). Meeting girls from cold approach should be my priority, not hanging out with women I already know.
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I also had an approach today. A girl I smiled at, she did not smile back, but looked at me with curiosity in her eyes. I took it as an approach invitation.
Me: - Excuse me.
She: Looks confused at me. Is listening to music, but takes away her earplugs.
Me: I just past you by, and had to tell you.... I find you cute. Kristian is my name.
She: Alex. Thank you.
Me: Alex?
She: For Alexandra. I only speak English.
Me: So where are you from?
She: I am from Bulgaria.
And then I started to tell her about my Bulgarian friand Georgiev. She knew who he was. I wanted to make a conversation and started talking about my music (since Georgiev plays piano). She left after my musical rant. It might be that me telling her about this come off as bragging.
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But at least I am getting better at looking at girls, and smiling at them. I am also getting a lot of IOIs and feel a lot more attractive. I also found out that my texting game need some upgrade. I have been texting longer than some other girls. And more frequently. I need to keep being the non-chaser. I dont chase girls and it has to stay this way.
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Approach Anxiety & Journal
Kristian,
Kristian,
I still have some of the so called approach anxiety though it has already started to decrease a lot. Mostly I have it before an outing and when I have no momentum yet. Another time is when I see very attractive/hot women. Your advice to just give compliments without moving on as a warm up is quite usefulkristian said:
Yes I write a journal - that's the main reason why I took notice of yours...kristian said:
So I had what they call on this site a friend zone date. After reading about the friend zone date I was pretty close to just flaking on the girl I was intending to meet.
She was scheduling it on her terms, and I even though I almost had her in October (she is from my social circle and we kissed last time, but I couldn't seal the deal) I had this feeling that she isn't that interested in me anymore. But a friend from work who also does day game said I at least could get some reference points, so I went for it.
Nothing substantially happened, but I am glad we did meet. This is my last date with someone from my social circle and it was what a call a date for some reference points. And I learned and applied a lot on this date.
But most importantly was the fact that I was being calm, despite she not being interested anymore. I was close to losing it though, but because I am practicing mindfulness a lot, I finally got control of my own state. This is cool because it all has to do with controlling my thought patterns.
So even though I am not getting laid as much as I thought I am happy that my fundamentals are getting better. Women seem to notice me more because of my walk and eye contact (I also smile a lot more). However, I need to work a little bit more on my voice tonality. And cold approach must be done more often
Ps. I must not forget to pre-open.
She was scheduling it on her terms, and I even though I almost had her in October (she is from my social circle and we kissed last time, but I couldn't seal the deal) I had this feeling that she isn't that interested in me anymore. But a friend from work who also does day game said I at least could get some reference points, so I went for it.
Nothing substantially happened, but I am glad we did meet. This is my last date with someone from my social circle and it was what a call a date for some reference points. And I learned and applied a lot on this date.
- 1. I got a lot of compliance. I steered the conversation and made her invest.
2. I also upped physicality. Made her touch me a lot and touched her back from time to time.
3. I had the chance to practice using eye contact. I was looking in between her eyes, and even practiced using bedroom eyes. The last one gave me a lot of IOIs.
4. I was always making sure my walk was perfect. I was also making sure I was relaxed.
But most importantly was the fact that I was being calm, despite she not being interested anymore. I was close to losing it though, but because I am practicing mindfulness a lot, I finally got control of my own state. This is cool because it all has to do with controlling my thought patterns.
So even though I am not getting laid as much as I thought I am happy that my fundamentals are getting better. Women seem to notice me more because of my walk and eye contact (I also smile a lot more). However, I need to work a little bit more on my voice tonality. And cold approach must be done more often
Ps. I must not forget to pre-open.
What an intense day. I had lot of fun after work. I went out for a walk, in order to approach some women.
The first one was a cute brunette on the bus station. I smiled at her (realized that smiling is good for IOIs) and she smiled back. I thought it would be nice to just start approaching.
Me: Hi. I just saw you and I love your smile. I just have to say it.
Her: Oh thanks (as her things were falling out).
Her: I am losing my stuff (as she is trying to put them in her bag).
Me: (Took a break and let her put her things)
Me: So do you study arts or something?
Her: No I go to high school. But I have drama classes over there (smiling).
Me: Thats cool. Are you trying to become an actress?
Her: Yes I am. Oh, my buss is here.
So I had to let her go.
After that I wenr walking for a wile. Did not see any cute girls in sight, but suddently a young girl wearing hippie clothes appear. I said something about her bags and her clothes. She immediately started smiling back. And we started talking.
Me: So what are you carrying?
Her: These are some juices I bought. They have a lot of different tastes. I love how tasty and organic they are. (She is saying with a smile).
Me: Thats cool. I should taste it then, can I try?
She denies, but tells me I can get the rest of it later. I am thinking this is a nice way of showing lack of interest, but at the same time she was qualifying herself. "At least we are going the same way" I though to myself, so I asked her some questions about her job. She suddently ask me to sit with her at the bus station because she is tired of walking around.
Me: (After a 5 minute discussion), so are we moving on?
She: No, I want to sit here a little bit longer.
Me: Ok. I have to go now (and left her very warmly).
I continued walking up and tried to smile to different girl, some were kind of interested in me back, but I did not know if it was for real or what. I ended giving another girl a compliment, but she was almost walking from me as she smiled, so I continued up thinking about my interactions.
After a moment I see this stunning young girl on my way back from the walk. I had to stop her and gave her a compliment. We kind of started vibing, but the girl was stoned She showed me some tricks (she does some art of flow thing), and asked me if I wanted to smoke some weed.
Me: I am sorry, I dont smoke as much anymore (I get weird when I do this). But we could hang out someday if you want to.
Her: No, I have a boyfriend. I was thinking we could smoke some now before I go to the metro station. (I guess this was a clear invitation on her part, which I declined).
Me: (After talking some more about her passions). I have to go now, but thanks for the invite.
After that I went to a party. I saw some pretty girls. I met my ex-girlfriend over there as well. This redhead appears and I made her dance with me.
We talked some more and I moved her here and there, but friends of her kept appearing out of nowhere and started talking to us (night game is more difficult this way).
I asked her to move out again after meeting her a couple of hours later, she said ok, but then excused herself to the bathroom (bummer). After that, a friend of her appeared, and she did not come back...
Fun day with lots of approaches. I will do the same tomorrow and see if I can improve compliance and try to make women see me as even more sexy.
The first one was a cute brunette on the bus station. I smiled at her (realized that smiling is good for IOIs) and she smiled back. I thought it would be nice to just start approaching.
Me: Hi. I just saw you and I love your smile. I just have to say it.
Her: Oh thanks (as her things were falling out).
Her: I am losing my stuff (as she is trying to put them in her bag).
Me: (Took a break and let her put her things)
Me: So do you study arts or something?
Her: No I go to high school. But I have drama classes over there (smiling).
Me: Thats cool. Are you trying to become an actress?
Her: Yes I am. Oh, my buss is here.
So I had to let her go.
After that I wenr walking for a wile. Did not see any cute girls in sight, but suddently a young girl wearing hippie clothes appear. I said something about her bags and her clothes. She immediately started smiling back. And we started talking.
Me: So what are you carrying?
Her: These are some juices I bought. They have a lot of different tastes. I love how tasty and organic they are. (She is saying with a smile).
Me: Thats cool. I should taste it then, can I try?
She denies, but tells me I can get the rest of it later. I am thinking this is a nice way of showing lack of interest, but at the same time she was qualifying herself. "At least we are going the same way" I though to myself, so I asked her some questions about her job. She suddently ask me to sit with her at the bus station because she is tired of walking around.
Me: (After a 5 minute discussion), so are we moving on?
She: No, I want to sit here a little bit longer.
Me: Ok. I have to go now (and left her very warmly).
I continued walking up and tried to smile to different girl, some were kind of interested in me back, but I did not know if it was for real or what. I ended giving another girl a compliment, but she was almost walking from me as she smiled, so I continued up thinking about my interactions.
After a moment I see this stunning young girl on my way back from the walk. I had to stop her and gave her a compliment. We kind of started vibing, but the girl was stoned
She showed me some tricks (she does some art of flow thing), and asked me if I wanted to smoke some weed. Me: I am sorry, I dont smoke as much anymore (I get weird when I do this). But we could hang out someday if you want to.
Her: No, I have a boyfriend. I was thinking we could smoke some now before I go to the metro station. (I guess this was a clear invitation on her part, which I declined).
Me: (After talking some more about her passions). I have to go now, but thanks for the invite.
After that I went to a party. I saw some pretty girls. I met my ex-girlfriend over there as well. This redhead appears and I made her dance with me.
We talked some more and I moved her here and there, but friends of her kept appearing out of nowhere and started talking to us (night game is more difficult this way).
I asked her to move out again after meeting her a couple of hours later, she said ok, but then excused herself to the bathroom (bummer). After that, a friend of her appeared, and she did not come back...
Fun day with lots of approaches. I will do the same tomorrow and see if I can improve compliance and try to make women see me as even more sexy.