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General Application of how (not) to attract fat girls

ChrisXKiss

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Chase has posted a very interesting article recently regarding how to stop attracting fat girls, and apart from using the techniques presented for fat girls, I am thinking of applying them in game in general, and would like to discuss that. For example, when you are in a social setting meeting girls, and you have some girls that you like a lot, your first picks, and some others that may still be cute, but not so special in your eyes.

I've personally been in a lot of situations like that, and I've felt a lot more attraction coming from the simply cute girls compared to the hottest ones. From what I realise, I'm autorejecting the most beautiful girls subconsciously, feeling that they know they are hot and everyone wants them, so they will act haughty and rebuff my approach. This makes me keep my distance from them, act less warm and flirty, while I still interact in fun flirtatious ways with the somewhat cute girls, showing my availability, because well...I feel they would also be more available, and since they are not that bad they would do!

I have been thinking a lot about this, because what ends up usually happening is that I don't get the hottest girls, either due to not approaching or screwing things up with my standoffish attitude, and I may get an opportunity with a less cute girl in the end, but because I realise I'm again going for the low hanging fruit that I don't care much about, I kinda lose my mojo to lead this seduction until the end. Unless I just want some sex. Then I'm generally fine with a simply cute girl, but after a while it messes with your mind, and you start getting this feeling that these are the girls I can get, which I don't want at all.

Anyway my point is that I see that I could use the techniques of this article to approach situations like these better. I feel that if I could show more neutrality towards the less cute girls, like the advice Chase gives to stop attracting fat girls, and more openness, warmth and attainability towards the hottest girls, like what Chase did to attract the blonde bombshells, it would raise my chances with the second group significantly.

What is more, I believe these techniques could be used in general, if you want to stop attracting any kind of woman you don't particularly like , and in comparison if you want to attract any kind of woman you particularly like. It also explains in part why the women that like you in your life have ended up liking you. You simply show more attainability towards them, and you make them feel more allowed to feel attracted to you.

That's what the "be yourself" actually means as well, you act naturally next to a woman and don't put pressure on yourself to have some kind of performance. As a result she feels that she can communicate normally with you and that is all she needs to feel allowed to get attracted. And the hotter she is the more she craves this, since most people act in weird unnatural ways around her.
 
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I hadn’t yet seen that one.

After reading it…I think I’m just gonna create a separate thread to avoid potential derailing…lol
 

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From what I realise, I'm autorejecting the most beautiful girls subconsciously, feeling that they know they are hot and everyone wants them, so they will act haughty and rebuff my approach
A lot of people do this. I believe this is why I tend to do very well with bottle blonde bombshell types. While they intimidate most guys, I genuinely feel very excited with them and I believe consistent succes with these types fuels my excitement. But what you see with these girls in return is that they have a very high shield because they expect guys to act aloof. Just a week ago this happened again, an otherwise very cool guy just froze around the superhot tall beauty. Men and women tend to call these types "bitches" just by these girls being present and not even saying a word yet.

I Think for these girls it is relief when you can act just normal around them

About the just cute types.. I notice that the younger ones still go for it and try to engage me but when they hit 20 or so they are more careful, perhaps due to needing to readjust their expectations after bad experienced. But I NEVER tend to attract fat girls. I do believe I am usually very warm against them (I dislike dissing people who are otherwise well natured) but I cannot remember the time in 15 years that a heavy girl tried to game me. A bit chubby and cute girls yes, but obese-> I seriously cannot recall it hence my surprise with that article

What has increasingly happened probably becauze I have aged (above thirties) is that milf types have become very forward 😂. Not sure if I should be happy about that makes me feel old although among them there are still very cute women.
 

ChrisXKiss

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A lot of people do this. I believe this is why I tend to do very well with bottle blonde bombshell types. While they intimidate most guys, I genuinely feel very excited with them and I believe consistent succes with these types fuels my excitement. But what you see with these girls in return is that they have a very high shield because they expect guys to act aloof. Just a week ago this happened again, an otherwise very cool guy just froze around the superhot tall beauty. Men and women tend to call these types "bitches" just by these girls being present and not even saying a word yet.

I Think for these girls it is relief when you can act just normal around them

About the just cute types.. I notice that the younger ones still go for it and try to engage me but when they hit 20 or so they are more careful, perhaps due to needing to readjust their expectations after bad experienced. But I NEVER tend to attract fat girls. I do believe I am usually very warm against them (I dislike dissing people who are otherwise well natured) but I cannot remember the time in 15 years that a heavy girl tried to game me. A bit chubby and cute girls yes, but obese-> I seriously cannot recall it hence my surprise with that article

What has increasingly happened probably becauze I have aged (above thirties) is that milf types have become very forward 😂. Not sure if I should be happy about that makes me feel old although among them there are still very cute women.
Yes I rarely get attraction from fat girls or girls that I outright don't like sexually at all either. In a way it's like I'm treating the girls I don't want at all and those I want a lot kinda similarly. Meaning politely in general, but keeping my distance emotionally, being kind and not flirty. The reasons are the opposite in these groups. The ones I don't like I can't imagine flirting with them and don't want to give them a chance thinking about it, while the ones I like I can't imagine them flirting with me and don't want to bother them.

It is pretty painful with the second group though, because I can generally have normal conversations, a lot of times I'm not intimidated to talk to them, but it's like I almost never see a sign of them showing interest in me. In cold approach they are the girls that reject me faster, and even when I get to talk to them more, there is this feeling of politeness and that we could have a nice conversation as fellow humans, but nothing more. I think it has to do with the fact that there is similarity, playfulness, and dominance missing.

I don't consider them bitches per se. I simply think of them as very beautiful women with a lot of options, that even if I act normally with them and connect, they will probably pick someone else and at best keep me as friend. And since I dread being just friends with girls I would want to sleep with, I prefer staying aloof and not give them the chance to friendzone me.

I guess the long term solution is to increase fundamentals to a point that you start getting attraction and interest from the most beautiful girls right away, so you start getting used to it. But until then what I'm trying is to simply go approach and escalate, regardless whether I think they would like me or not. I think that my biggest obstacle regarding that is building enough similarity/attainability to make these girls allowed to feel attraction towards me, which brings us back to the article.

I probably have to keep being warm towards them, connecting and having fun, without thinking that yeah it will be another waste of time where I am having a good time with a girl I like and she goes to sleep with someone else. This has happened a lot to me in the past, to the point it started making me go full value/sexual escalation game to minimize the chance of connecting with a hot girl and things remaining platonic. However, I realise now that this thinking is flawed, not only because being more attainable helps to sleep with girls that consider you high value already, but also because being more similar to the girl in fact raises your value in her eyes and makes her feel more allowed to escalate sexually with you.
 

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The part I'm still trying to figure out about this article is where the bakery is in the photo.
 
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And yeah a big part of it is your attainability to her. I believe the article said something about being a humanitarian lol cock for womankind...

I'm at a weird spot in my journey with girls. My SMV as a player is actually perfectly aligned with chubby chicks. We're active in the dating market and getting some time in with the hotties, but if you are really being honest about your level with who you can convert quickly as a fuck buddy and keep a solid abundance mentality with... Your partners are a mirror.

These girls are really solid stepping stones. Lol

Chase mentioned they're on a different trajectory.

It's easy to forget that girls can get mesmerized by deep diving like no one has ever understood them so well. In the case of fat girls, it's like guys who can fuck well don't usually spend time getting to know them. If you're good at it and willing to do that a bit, then holy fuck will these girls run at you like in that picture.

So for the real hot girls though, I think it's a similar thing with just getting to know her. First there's the persistence to get to the center of the tootsy pop. Then you're assessing her on something other than beauty and she's enjoying being asked about herself while slipping into qualifying.

At least that's how I hope it'll be in the grocery store one day.
 
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