Getting A Deep Conversion to Start Helping With PU, and Be Excited About It.

[The Marksman]

Hey Guys!

I've been gradually working on extending the depth of my conversion success with the girl Dani that I have been in a casual relationship with. I've mentioned her in a couple reports but have never really written much on her until now. If you're interested in reading the ones she's been mentioned in, as I pull examples from them when I talked to her about helping me with PU, you can find them here:

FR+ / LR: My Deep Conversion Watches Me Run PU: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6109
LR: The Barkeep's Daughter: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6086

Anyways, last night Dani came over, and in the course of hanging out that evening I looked at her, and as she felt my gaze she looked up. I smiled but said nothing. She laughed and asked what I was smiling about and I said:

Me: Can I talk to you about something?

Dani: Yeah sure what's up?

Me: So remember the night when you came here and you waled in on me sitting here with the brunette girl the other day? We talked about pick up for like 2 hours the next day and you said you didn't understand really what the point was?

Dani: Yeah why?

Well I have an answer for you, if you'd like to hear it, but I also have a question at the end of the answer.

Dani: ok shoot.

Me: Remember that night that I talked to those 3 girls out by the bonfire at my house and you sat and watched and were cracking up at watching me make a point of how easy it is to talk to girls and how you could see some of the things that we had talk about in previous conversations about it and you genuinely enjoyed watching these girls fawn over themselves? Well, many guys who do this have different aims and what not, or end goals. Some are relationship guys focused on taking things in certain directions, some are focused on one night stands, some are all about sex in the first hour of meeting them, everyone does it for different reasons. Mine is the thrill of the mental chess game I'm playing with that person, and getting the number and the date set up and seeing just how fast I can do that, and experimenting with new ways of doing that.

Dani: I had never really thought about it, but I guess that makes a lot of sense.

Me: Well, my question now, is how would you like to be involved in that process?

Dani: Hahahahah what?

Me: Seriously, you already know a lot of the small subtle stuff I do, your clearly comfortable with watching my do it when you know that's what I'm doing, you had a great time watching me work with those girls that night around the fire, plus there would be something in it for you.

Dani: Oh?...

Me: Yes. We'll pick a night to go out and do this, and for that night, your goal is to help me pull as many numbers or dates as possible, and if we succeed in that, even if we only get one, then I'll bring you back that night and you can have anything sexually that you could possibly want. BUT, if we get no numbers or dates, you get nothing, and have to wait.

Dani: hahahah I see. Hmmmmm......I don't know how comfortable I am with it still though.

Me: My guess is a little bit of jealousy will overcome you the first couple times, but that's unnecessary considering you'll know why I'm doing what I'm doing, and it would be nothing sexual, the whole point of the evening would be for a number or a date. SO, no risk. I mean, does it require lots of trust? Yes. But I've already seen you be able to handle it before and have fun with it and I think were both open enough about communication and respect each other enough to be able to go out together and do this some nights and have A LOT of fun with it and build up a lot of tension and suspense that night and then come bak to my place and release allll of it. Think of it like a bet sort of.

Dani: I wouldn't even know how to help!

Me: And that's where things get fun. I've never done this before either, I've always done this on my own or with a guy wingman-ing me. It will be a fun little new adventure for both of us, and the best part is you get laid at the end of the night for helping me, not her haha.

Dani: Hmmmmmm.

Me: You watch House Of Cards right?

Dani: Yeah

Me: You'll be my paramore so to speak, it will be almost identical to the relationship that Frank Underwood has with his wife in the show. %100 open communication and %100 percent trust. Strong and healthy.

Dani: (thinking)

It's at this point in the conversation that I pull her to me and kiss her fiercely, pick her up, and pull her on top of me (we're been sitting on my bed this whole time). I give her a light tap on the ass, and then finish the convo:

Me: Thursday, we'll try it out, and if you don't like it, we won't do it.

Dani: I don't know about this week I have so much going on with Capstone

Me: Ok next week, we'll go out and try it and have a great time either way that night and if it's not for you then it's not for you.

Dani: Ok, you're lucky I'm so willing to try new things haha

At this point we have sex a couple times and it is fiercely passionate, and all over my room, and I make sure of that.

Afterwards, she is kind of quiet and I can see things are turning in her mind. I ask her what's on her mind, and she says:

Dani: Well, I'm just trying to figure out I guess A) exactly how I can help and what I can do to make it easier for you, and B) exactly what I'm gonna decide I want when you get it

She reaches behind her and grabs my dick and ives it a very playful squeeze and tug.

THE GAME IS AFOOT!

I'm really looking forward to and exciting with this new endeavor and all the possibilities that it could entail and eventually grow and expand into as I make her more and more comfortable with these kinds of things.

THAT BEING SAID

Any comments, tips, or ways to make this more fun or take it even further would be most welcome!

- The Marksman

 

[Stewie]

Sounds interesting (see what I did there lol). My only concern is on your part. This being what do you want with dani. Sooner or later the topic will come up of you and her and you're going to need a damn good answer or you'll lose a lady who seems to be pretty stellar. Just some food for thought. Keep at it!


R4l

 

[Mr. oblivious]

i bet you will find with Dani just being around you, you will pick up much more numbers

Girls are the best wingmen they dont even have to talk and they're effective

 

[Chase]

Marksman-

Fun stuff here. I'd be curious to know how this setup worked out for you.

I've seen a few guys try similar things to this, and did myself at one point as well, but it seems to normally break down after a while. The girl becomes overcome too much with jealousy, and then starts working overtime to make the guy jealous. Either she succeeds and he folds into a monogamous relationship with her, or she fails, blows up, and runs off with some guy who will give her something secure and monogamous until her self-esteem has recovered.

It's different from tandem hunting, which is when you and the girl head out to pick up other girls to sleep with, and BOTH of you sleep with them at the same time:

Tandem Hunting: Picking Up Girls for Threesomes with Your Girlfriend

... because that's something you're doing together, and if you're doing it right your girl always feels more important than the other girl, and like the one who is in ultimate control of the situation.

It's also different from a standard open relationship, where the partners don't talk about their liaisons and just know that they have them, and it's more of an abstract / undiscussed thing. Or swinging, where the partners head to a party, trade partners, but both are cool with it because each one is focused on his or her own novel experiences with someone else rather than worried too much what the other one is doing.

It seems like if you want to include her, she generally needs to either be involved in the sex with the girl you're picking up, or she needs to be hooking up with her own other people herself, if you want to avoid the jealousy accumulation that occurs with her standing around watching you pile up more success with other women, even if you bang her out at the end.

Because she also knows she was helping you stack up other women you will be expending your sexual resources on throughout the week instead of on her, she is actually working against her own interests here, which eventually builds up resentment / blow ups / etc.

When I tried something similar to this myself - being open with my girl about picking up and how it worked and what my motivation was - it was fine so long as it was hidden from view and she could abstract it away, but as soon as I got looser about it and she started seeing it in front of her face, the negative emotion buildup happened pretty quickly and I had a shitstorm on my hands that a hundred George Clooneys and Mark Wahlbergs couldn't sail their way out of.

There are various women of various different dispositions out there, and while I wouldn't rule it out entirely, I've yet to see one who can take this stuff totally in stride with a man she is even remotely attached to. I suppose you might be able to swing it if you could find a way to keep her seeing you sexually while keeping her just interested enough in you to continue but not so interested she gets attached, but I'm not sure if that's possible when a woman sees other women chasing after you like crazy, unless perhaps she views herself as super elite and all these other women as far beneath her.

Normally, preselection kicks in though, and her attraction for you soars no matter whether she wants it to or not.

Chase