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Getting into Studio 54 would've been potent social proof

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Currently, I am reading Tim Lawrence’s Love Saves the Day, a book on the disco movement. In the book, Lawrence recounts the story of various New York nightclubs including Studio 54, the most famous New York discotheque.

As a club, Studio cultivated an aura of success and celebrity. In the book, DJs regret the sound at Studio was a bit one dimensional, but that the point of the club was a projection of artifice, to almost be in a waking dream with all these famous people.

The one seduction takeaway I had reading this book was the social proof you would have in this environment would be unreal. Featuring celebrities of the time from Andy Warhol to Brooke Shields, Studio 54 almost certainly had its share of hot models. Studio 54 had a famously rigorous door policy, with owner Steve Rubbell more or less inventing the red velvet rope. The point is any guy would be starting from a position of high social proof talking to women in this environment.

Steve Rubbell, the co-founder of Studio 54, stated in a contemporaneous television interview that Studio was not a “pick-up place” but rather for people who wanted to have a “light-hearted time”. Comments like this though were likely intended to dissuade John Travolta lookalikes from the outer boroughs from trying to get in. According to other accounts, Studio had its fair share of people illicitly fucking, e.g. sex in the toilet was commonplace.

While getting into Studio 54 or its modern equivalent is of course beyond most guys, the relative difficulty of the game is influenced by whether you have a social situation vouching for you. While I have nothing against daygame, I have noticed a trend of guys who are relatively inexperienced with girls wanting to do it exclusively, which is odd as on some level it is the hardest way to meet girls. A more well-rounded approach to game should entail also thinking about environments that play to your advantage rather than merely approaching girls in a social vacuum.
 

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Oh for sure! Getting into any kind of exclusive social enviornment will generate massive amounts of social proof. I've been at various fashion industry parties and it's super natural to talk to people there, and everyone is really warm. It's essentially game on easy mode since the environment does all the work basically
 

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@Skills Does approaching hundreds of girls who are strangers and getting rejected by the overwhelming majority of them serve a better purpose?

I am writing a journal on a book I read and relating it to seduction, which I suppose makes me more diverse in my interests than your average autistically narrow day gamer.

Studio 54 might be a club associated with a particular era but the idea of leveraging pre-selection is timeless.
 
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I can see why getting into an exclusive nightclub is social proof vs people outside the club. But once you're inside you're competing with everyone else who is already in there. So would it make any difference? Women judge things like status on a very relative basis.

The best thing about daygame is that there's no clear background of competition against which she can measure you, so if you handle things well it's much easier to make a strong impression.

It doesn't matter which type of game you want to do, it's possible to do it badly or do it well. Some guys treat daygame as a kind of psychological endurance test without really thinking deeply about why they're not getting results, but not everyone is doing it that way.

I also notice that guys who've had bad experiences with daygame, or who can't handle the pressure of approaching in broad daylight without alcohol, tend to think of every approach that doesn't lead to a number as a fullon, shameful 'rejection', whereas guys like myself who can succeed with it find ways to enjoy and have fun (and make sure the girl does too) even when things don't end up leading anywhere.

At the end of the day, if you are cold approaching girls of your choice on a regular basis, most of the time you won't take her to bed. If that's too terrible of an experience then seduction really isn't for you.
 

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@Skills Does approaching hundreds of girls who are strangers and getting rejected by the overwhelming majority of them serve a better purpose?

I am writing a journal on a book I read and relating it to seduction, which I suppose makes me more diverse in my interests than your average autistically narrow day gamer.

Studio 54 might be a club associated with a particular era but the idea of leveraging pre-selection is timeless.
Write a book on how to develop a time machine you have 0 biz writting a book on clubs with al due respect..
 

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Write a book on how to develop a time machine you have 0 biz writting a book on clubs with al due respect..

yeah, I don't purport to be an expert on club game but I maintain the position that being in a socially advantageous position will usually be better than approaching girls as a random stranger.
 
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If a guy was socially awkward, he did not get into Studio 54.
 

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I am writing a journal on a book I read and relating it to seduction, which I suppose makes me more diverse in my interests than your average autistically narrow day gamer.

I am no Skills, but I can imagine approaching so much reduces social anxiety at some point and creates outcome indepency.

Exposure therapy.
At first it creates more fear. Then it gets normal and then it creates outcome independency which reduces fear.
 

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I am no Skills, but I can imagine approaching so much reduces social anxiety at some point and creates outcome indepency.

Exposure therapy.
At first it creates more fear. Then it gets normal and then it creates outcome independency which reduces fear.
I would merely say that approaching large numbers of random girls is probably not how you should primarily approach dating.

I agree though that exposure therapy reduces fear.
 

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I would merely say that approaching large numbers of random girls is probably not how you should primarily approach dating.

I agree though that exposure therapy reduces fear.
@mirror and you....

Nobody post beginner level to get rid aa or experience will approach a large number of strangers....

In a club night most guys with a basic skill level will approach an average of 3-5 girls a max of 10 in a bad night...
 

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In a club night most guys with a basic skill level will approach an average of 3-5 girls a max of 10 in a bad night...

if my memory serves right there are some guys that did and still do that. They need to.

But i don't see why you would assume we aint talking beginners.
 
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