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Getting Stuck Whenever I Deep Dive

persona

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So I read the article about Deep diving a while back and I've tried implementing it whenever I can and so far its worked quite well for me...at least the first time I do it with a girl. Usually on the first date I deep dive leading in about what she's studying (I'm in university), what she wants do once she graduates, why she wants to do it, and etc progressively probing deeper and deeper. It works fantastic the first time, but lets if I say go on a second date, I find it harder to discover relevant topics that I can dive into especially if the girl doesn't seem to have any notable traits (loves a sport or hobby for example). I'd rather not re-use the same topic (career/school) because it feels like I'm beating a dead horse. I guess essentially I find it hard to get the girl to open up emotionally to the same extent when I try to deep dive the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th time.

Any advice on tips or tricks or other topics to deep dive with?
 

PrettyDecent

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Hey persona,

The deep dive is best used on the date where you're escalating to sex. Otherwise, deep diving without getting sexual leads you more toward boyfriend or friend. Keep the other dates lighthearted before that.

Hope that helps :)

~Nick
 

persona

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Thanks for the advice Nick! By light-hearted do you mean small-talk like topics such as how her day went or recent movies etc? Also in the event you looking to try and make her your girlfriend, would deep diving be a good tactic to continue using?
 

PrettyDecent

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No worries, persona!

Check out this article: Date Templates: Minimize Confusion, Maximize Returns, and check out that space where it says "informational dates". That's kind of what you're going for if you're not aiming for sex on Date 1.

You want to go deeper than small talk, but nothing with very strong emotion. Maybe someone else can help me out? I'm getting all my lays on date 1.

I'd actually recommend that for you too, though: How to Get First-Date Sex with Girls on Every Date. It's good because you can deep-dive like normal, and it's a solid strategy to make her your girlfriend, in any case.

~Nick
 

Smith

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Hey persona,

Small talk is something u should avoid as you get better. Deep diving is something u should do in all of your conversation if you want to make a connection with another person. It's how deep you go that you need to calibrate according to the situation.

You can still deep dive about the movies or stuff she likes and give an interesting cold read about her or relate to her. Keep it fun so the conversation doesn't feel too 'deep' and emotional.

- smith
 
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