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Girl 100% DTF out of nowhere. Should I be skeptical???

Kaida

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Theres this girl in my school that just came out of nowhere snd suddenly is dtf. Shes kind of a big girl and not my type, but its an opportunity to break the virginity barrier, and its not hard to get me horny. But its too weird imo. In y’alls experience with girls are going with these chicks going to cause me problems??

She started by messaging me saying I look good, so to play with her I started some sexual flirtation asking her if she can swallow and shit. One thing led to another and now we’re discussing plans to meet up.

I’ve apparently met her online in a past group chat, and she even told me she remembers me calling her UGLY, albiet it was like 2 years ago. So weird

Ive EXPLICITELY said I’m a no strings attached kind of guy, and that when we meet up were doing something sexual. She took it all w no resistance.

This is after about a text exchange of only like 20 messages total, and a very platonic in person interaction where i just showed friendly interest and moved on. Its so weird how easy it was to escalate with her.

I dont want to get trapped in something avoidable with a girl thats gonna do something weird like accuse me of rape or do voodoo on me or whatever.


I can tell horniness is clouding my judgement. My animal mind was even trying to force me not to make this post, in case one of yall said I shouldnt go through.

I need some reason from yall experts. because right now, the dick is doing the thinking.

Forgive the grammer and spelling mistakes, im making this in a rush
 
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HoofHearted

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Welcome to adulthood, we all make our choices.

If I knew you IRL, and I cared about you, I would tell you not to do it.

I would tell you to get the fuck away from sites like these... but sadly, I can think of no place else to send you. A strong, male role model to show you the way? There's such a lack.

There are worse things to be than a virgin. I suggest, in whatever you choose, that you take care of yourself. Life is long, and you've got a long way to go, and there's part of the mind that never forgets.
 

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Theres this girl in my school that just came out of nowhere snd suddenly is dtf. Shes kind of a big girl and not my type, but its an opportunity to break the virginity barrier, and its not hard to get me horny. But its too weird imo. In y’alls experience with girls are going with these chicks going to cause me problems??

She started by messaging me saying I look good, so to play with her I started some sexual flirtation asking her if she can swallow and shit. One thing led to another and now we’re discussing plans to meet up.

I’ve apparently met her online in a past group chat, and she even told me she remembers me calling her UGLY, albiet it was like 2 years ago. So weird

Ive EXPLICITELY said I’m a no strings attached kind of guy, and that when we meet up were doing something sexual. She took it all w no resistance.

This is after about a text exchange of only like 20 messages total, and a very platonic in person interaction where i just showed friendly interest and moved on. Its so weird how easy it was to escalate with her.

I dont want to get trapped in something avoidable with a girl thats gonna do something weird like accuse me of rape or do voodoo on me or whatever.


I can tell horniness is clouding my judgement. My animal mind was even trying to force me not to make this post, in case one of yall said I shouldnt go through.

I need some reason from yall experts. because right now, the dick is doing the thinking.

Forgive the grammer and spelling mistakes, im making this in a rush
Hmmmm, I won't tell you to break it off, but definitely proceed with caution. Be careful, think before you move, and watch out for red flags.

Just because it's easy to escalate doesn't mean it's too good to be true, especially at this age.

Frankly maybe she's listening to her lady parts and/or hormones too.

When you say "big girl", what does "big" mean? She may want validation about her body.
She may just want to get laid. Maybe she's a virgin too. Or something. Girls want to get laid too


Also, frankly, I would do a deep self-examination. Ask yourself why you want to do this. Understand how you yourself think and feel. Decide whether you want to just cross the Rubicon now and be done with it, or not. It's up to you.

Also, IMHO, make sure you actually want her and not just the experience of having sex with a real live woman (even if that is the main motivation).

Maybe think about how you'll feel right after you're done.

And if you do decide to go through with it, make sure you do it as well as you can. You only get one first time.

I would advise making sure she's on some kind of contraception even if you use a condom.

Know what you want to do with her. Then do it - if she's OK with it.


Good luck brother
 

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Theres this girl in my school that just came out of nowhere snd suddenly is dtf. Shes kind of a big girl and not my type, but its an opportunity to break the virginity barrier, and its not hard to get me horny. But its too weird imo. In y’alls experience with girls are going with these chicks going to cause me problems??

She started by messaging me saying I look good, so to play with her I started some sexual flirtation asking her if she can swallow and shit. One thing led to another and now we’re discussing plans to meet up.

I’ve apparently met her online in a past group chat, and she even told me she remembers me calling her UGLY, albiet it was like 2 years ago. So weird

Ive EXPLICITELY said I’m a no strings attached kind of guy, and that when we meet up were doing something sexual. She took it all w no resistance.

This is after about a text exchange of only like 20 messages total, and a very platonic in person interaction where i just showed friendly interest and moved on. Its so weird how easy it was to escalate with her.

I dont want to get trapped in something avoidable with a girl thats gonna do something weird like accuse me of rape or do voodoo on me or whatever.


I can tell horniness is clouding my judgement. My animal mind was even trying to force me not to make this post, in case one of yall said I shouldnt go through.

I need some reason from yall experts. because right now, the dick is doing the thinking.

Forgive the grammer and spelling mistakes, im making this in a rush

Nobody can tell you what to do, it's your choice. As a man this won't be the most difficult choice you'll ever make, I can tell you that much.

Here's my 2c, very simple.

Don't fuck a woman you don't like.

Doesn't mean she has to be 10/10, or even close, she could be the most plain jane in the world, the question is, do you enjoy talking to her and fucking her?

If not, maybe pass. Because if you find her repulsive or unpleasant to be around, once you've busted your load it's going to be very hard to keep the bs going, she will sense it, and might well feel used.

Personally I won't fuck a girl I wouldn't fuck regularly for at least a month or so.

It doesn't matter whether she's big or not, whether your friends think she's hot, whatever, if you enjoy fucking her, who's to tell you that you're doing things wrong? Sex is first and foremost about enjoying yourself and making sure she has a good time as well. That's what makes the whole thing worthwhile.

But if you're just pushing through repulsion to say you're not a virgin anymore, you're setting things up for a chaotic post sex time for both of you. Especially for girls with self esteem issues, you never know what she might do if you dump her straight afterward, you don't know what stupid stuff you might do out of insecurity, that's a good reason why you stay away from low self esteem people in general, they don't have a lot to lose so that's why they can be so vindictive.

So to sum up I would say, if you wouldn't have sex with her 3 or 4 times or more, don't shag her at all, simple as that.
...

Getting sex is one of the most important things for a man, but it's not worth everything. I'll tell you an embarrassing story.

So I didn't lose my virginity until 19, earlier that year one of my buddies took me to a brothel, I was that desperate by that stage. I took a look around, I saw the women there all worn out, I smelled the smell there and the whole decrepit atmosphere of the place, and I simply said no. I would rather have the sun set and rise every day on my boner for the rest of my life before I would lower myself to such things. The idea of penetrating one of those women to me was like sticking my dick down a toilet. What was the point? It gave me nothing worth thinking about afterward.

So I started hitting clubs and parties hard. I was pretty rabid by that stage, on a mission. Went through all sorts of messups, cringe moments like telling girls like a beggar that I wanted them, missed opportunities, etc, but I just ploughed on like a soldier, it had to be done. I just messed up and learned, messed up and learned, on repeat. Eventually, I hooked up with a girl 7 years older in a club, a girl I vibed with a lot, was fit and attractive. I was pretty intense that night, like a man fighting a battle that isn't about winning or losing any more, I talked her ears off, danced with her, gritted my teeth when she went off and danced with some other dude, re-hooked etc. She ended up basically taking me home, was a pretty experienced girl. Had a great time, stayed together for a few months shagging and drifted apart as I was a lazy prick at that point.

You know what's the embarrassing thing? I hadn't even wanked before I shagged her. Strange as it sounds, I walked around with blue balls literally until I was 19. Imagine that. No sneaking porn, no funny business in the toilet, nothing. I don't know, it never really occurred to me as an enjoyable idea to sit there and have a one man party. Maybe that's why she took me home, she knew I had a lot to express.

The morning after, she went off to work and left me there in her bed (yep some women like to take care of strays) I was even more horny than before, and for the first time went and busted in the toilet. Whaddya know?

Point is, it doesn't matter how long it takes, if all the pent up energy inside you goes toward developing yourself, taking risks and bulldozing through obstacles, you will get what you want in a way that's worth savoring later on.
 

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The old classic comes to mind:


Anyway, for these situations where your mind says one thing, but your balls say something else, and you feel torn between the two, I find the following method is helpful:

Rub one out, then once you're thinking clearly, decide if this is still a chick you'd want to move forward with or not.

If so, proceed. If not, get the heck out.
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

Regal Tiger

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Came here to say the same thing as some others: when you're unsure just rub one out

Then you'll know

Another helpful thing that I learned from an older woman: if you wouldn't go down on her then you don't actually want her
 

Kaida

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Don't fuck a woman you don't like.

Doesn't mean she has to be 10/10, or even close, she could be the most plain jane in the world, the question is, do you enjoy talking to her and fucking her?

If not, maybe pass. Because if you find her repulsive or unpleasant to be around, once you've busted your load it's going to be very hard to keep the bs going, she will sense it, and might well feel used.

Personally I won't fuck a girl I wouldn't fuck regularly for at least a month or so.

Thats a good rule, I’ll use that from now on.


Point is, it doesn't matter how long it takes, if all the pent up energy inside you goes toward developing yourself, taking risks and bulldozing through obstacles, you will get what you want in a way that's worth savoring later on.

Right on man. I shouldn’t be in a rush, especially for my first. I’ll get a girl I actually like eventually.

After waking up from sleep, the raging horniness subsided and made me realize that I don’t just want sex. I want the feeling of winning it, and making a girl submit through my actions prior to the act. Doesnt mean it’s gotta be hard to get, but 100% from the jump is unattractive.


I’ve decided to not go through with it. These replies were very helpful in making me understand some things about myself and what I want. Thanks guys!
 

ElChe

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Just wanted to comment a bit on the virginity thing– when I was still a virgin I regretted the opportunities I missed… for a few reasons:

  1. It felt like the fact I was a virgin put a “limit” on how attractive I could be to girls

  1. The longer I went without having sex, the more I felt like I was “faking confidence”. My inexperience eventually deteriorated my confidence.

  1. This one may not apply to you but I actually felt like I wasn’t “fully” living. Like, I would be vibin some day, then remember I hadn’t had sex, then feel bad I was a virgin. It felt like I wasn’t “complete”, if that makes sense

However…

When I finally did lose my virginity, the girl literally told me “wow, you’re good at sex”.

Before then my entire sexual experience was kissing ONE girl… like 3 times (you could hardly call it a makeout). But the girl I lost my virginity to said she came 4 times…

Did losing my virginity bring back my confidence? Yeah, for like, two days. Then my apathy just came crawling back.

Despite no longer being a virgin, I still felt the same as before.

The point is, once you lose your virginity you realize that it’s entirely a mental thing. It doesn’t mean anything.

The experience that you give women extends way beyond just sex. The flirting, the conversation, your confidence and so on– that’s what makes you attractive and it doesn’t have anything to do with whether you’ve had sex UNLESS you let it be a big deal.

Cause– not to brag– but I’m sure my young, confident, virgin self was a lot more attractive than most men who have had sex…

And apparently, he was also better than most men at sex, even if he didn’t know it…


My advice to you is to not sleep with a girl *just to lose your virginity*.

If you’re motivated to improve right now and putting in the work, value that and don’t let anything get in the way of that motivation.
 

topcat

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Guess it depends how you’re built my guy…

Me personally, in your position, i’d fuck her. You’re a virgin, you’ve no idea what pussy is like..you’re in no position to be choosy.

I lost mine to a fat chick, for practise.

However, i feel if your self esteem can’t handle it (which it likely can’t given you’re searching for approval to bust a nut on the internet) probably best you didn’t…

Best

Topcat
 

TomInHo

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Bro, you're a Virgin.... you should definitely smash

Don't jack off before you meet her, don't overthink this and just fuck her. It honestly doesn't even matter if it's a good experience. What matters is that you get used to sticking your dick in wet vagina

This is also a good situation because the chances of you getting one-itis are slim to none. This will make it easier for you to move on and fuck more attractive girls down the road

But just make sure you send her a nice text the day after, saying you had a great time, and you can screenshot the text exchange to ease your paranoia of her filing a false rape charge

Good luck and have fun
 
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Alpha13SC

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Theres this girl in my school that just came out of nowhere snd suddenly is dtf. Shes kind of a big girl and not my type, but its an opportunity to break the virginity barrier, and its not hard to get me horny. But its too weird imo. In y’alls experience with girls are going with these chicks going to cause me problems??

She started by messaging me saying I look good, so to play with her I started some sexual flirtation asking her if she can swallow and shit. One thing led to another and now we’re discussing plans to meet up.

I’ve apparently met her online in a past group chat, and she even told me she remembers me calling her UGLY, albiet it was like 2 years ago. So weird

Ive EXPLICITELY said I’m a no strings attached kind of guy, and that when we meet up were doing something sexual. She took it all w no resistance.

This is after about a text exchange of only like 20 messages total, and a very platonic in person interaction where i just showed friendly interest and moved on. Its so weird how easy it was to escalate with her.

I dont want to get trapped in something avoidable with a girl thats gonna do something weird like accuse me of rape or do voodoo on me or whatever.


I can tell horniness is clouding my judgement. My animal mind was even trying to force me not to make this post, in case one of yall said I shouldnt go through.

I need some reason from yall experts. because right now, the dick is doing the thinking.

Forgive the grammer and spelling mistakes, im making this in a rush

How about doing what you feel and maybe what your dick is telling you to do?

Because otherwise you could end up with regrets and that weights harder than not doing things.

Had girls for just a night because I wanted, then give up on them. I wouldn't go 2nd time to them because wanted it just once. So I did as I pleased.

And worst case scenario, you don't want to have sex with her multiple times or something, you don't know it yet, so there's only one way to find out.

Trust your guts more.

Alpha13SC
 

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Well lets be practical most guys fuck trolls when there are not hot girls at the clubs at the end of the night if there are no other choices, we call them left overs...

I am suspect of a virgin making a post, usually they do as cope, there is a population or super picky guys and virgins that never fuck, i met them in person and they are full of cope.

Now assuming you are not coping, i use trolls for head that is a way to get around this.... another way is to focus on one good body part, another is to close your eyes an imagine you are fucking carmen electra... now here is some problems there needs to be chemestry to have sex your dick needs to get hard, double trouble not only your dick has to get hard u need to wear a condom you dont want the troll prego and having a family album with the adams family, herman being her...

There is something i use to recommend the skills reverse hypergamy... get a troll, get practice keep her around dont be seen with her, have control of relarionship monkey branch from 5 to 6, dump the 5 till you get to over 8 ...
 

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Just for future reference i’d make it a habit to shoot first ask questions later on these kinds of opportunities. Just because she wanted to fuck you today doesn’t mean she will tomorrow.

In those moments you have to decide for yourself in real time otherwise you may miss the window and any input we might have won’t even apply anymore.
 
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