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I went to the club yesterday with a good buddy of mine and after a while we met a girl there and walked out with her. My friend drove us to her dorm and then they both went into her room. After he was finished, I went into the room and started having sex with her. She was telling me to pull her hair and saying that she likes it rough. I was thrusting hard, slapping her, and trying to dominate her (that's what this site says girls enjoy in bed). After we were done, I left the room to talk to my friend; he wanted us to leave, but we heard her crying so we decided to check up on her. He talked to her and asked her why she was crying, and she said that with him it was fine, but that with me it felt like I was taking advantage of her. My friend said he saw blood on her bed sheets.
Today he texted her to check up on her. He told her that we should do this again, she said fine, "but please don't bring your friend."

I don't care if I see this girl again, but I want to know why she ended up feeling that way.


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Richard

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You, my friend, need to learn to see and pick up on a girls signals (especially during sex). Women do love to be dominated but you need to understand domination through her eyes not yours.

What passes for domination to you may feel like rape to her and may feel like a stroll through a flower patch to other women. It's your job to test the waters and see what she responds best to, and it's your job to keep things in perspective as well.

Even if she said she likes it rough, it's your job to figure out what that means to her.
 

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Richard, What should I do then? I don't want her to file a false rape accusation. Should I text her to clear things up? I was thinking of writing something like this: "Hey, I just want to say that I didn't mean to make you feel the way you did. While we were there you started telling me that you liked it rough, and even instructed me to pull your hair, that's the ONLY reason I kept going like that. Maybe I misjudged what you wanted, but if you wouldve told me to slow down or to stop, I would've done so immediately. But you didn't tell me anything so, naturally, I assumed there was nothing wrong and that you were having a good time. If you don't want to see me again for whatever reason it's ok, Im just writing this to make my point clear to you and to say that I wouldn't do anything to deliberately hurt you. That's not the type of person I am."
 
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Do not text that. Here's the only thing you need to write. Turn a negative into a positive:

"Hey after we hooked up I kinda got the sense that something was off with you. When you told me to give it to you rough (this establishes that sex was consensual and she specifically requested rough sex) you turned me on so hard I couldn't help myself, you unlocked my inner caveman I guess! It really was that good (fluff her up a little). Just wanted to touch base with ya, you really seem like a really fun person and if you ever want to grab a coffee or something in a totally chill setting let me know."

Something along those lines. Richard is exactly correct - give it to me rough is not permission to disregard her pleasure and inflict intentional and disrespectful pain. It's sex, it's supposed to be mutually pleasurable. Most of her pleasure comes from you being pleasured by her but she still has to get the sense that you respect her and she's not just a pussy hole to you. Always start medium and let her tell you to ramp it up. Don't start at level 10 bro.
 

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Firstly I would leave well enough alone. If she was gonna do anything she would've done it already so if it ain't broke don't fix it. Just try to learn from the experience.

As to the scenario well look, as radeng points out, she was DTF two guys in a session so she couldn't be all that innocent. She was into it at the time and that's what matters. It is a natural tendency of girls to rewrite the past to fit their current emotions, and what seemed like a great adventure at the time could well feel slutty to her now. So be it. No need for you to get drawn into her emotional issues. Stay strong.

But I now want to discuss dominance a bit. The best kind of dominance is through least effort. If you simply expect to be obeyed and have the vibe to match, then generally you won't be questioned, she'll just hop to it. This is what girls really like. But if she's quite spirited, or for whatever reason things don't go your way immediately, then the next step of dominance is to be chilled and give her some consequences for not complying. Again least effort is the key here, you might need to wrestle her onto the bed or something, but your goal is always to gain compliance, once she's complying then there's no point being rough about it.

Another way to exercise dominance is through persistence. As I see it, if she's not complying then you have two options: Either persist or do a takeaway. If you choose the route of persistence you can be totally calm and chilled about it, but just obstinate as fuck. Let her understand through your actions there is no way around it, you will be continuing until you get your way or she leaves (obviously, she can always leave at any time -- and if you're tying her up or slapping her something of that nature, which women love, you must make sure she has a safe word). Again, least effort -- don't be excessively rough with her at all.

As to physical roughness well it's fine to spank/slap her, pull her hair and so on, but in my opinion you should not hurt her, and also, leave emotion out of it, never get angry or carried away in the moment. I also wouldn't advocate stuff like digging your nails into her back or biting her nipples or whatever. If you must do this kind of stuff, do it gently -- I have had success with clothes pegs on the girl's nipples but if you're going to do this, try it on yourself first, you'll find it doesn't really hurt -- what would hurt would be things like twisting them etc, which I do not recommend. Verbal game is good, such as telling her she's gonna have a red bottom and then following through (you can do this without really hurting her).

I would regard things like slapping, hair pulling, clothes pegs, ropes, etc as basically props which help to set a scene and establish your dominance (consequences which you use to gain compliance). The other thing to keep in mind when using this kind of tech is that you should have a story behind it -- secretary was late submitting the report and so she receives a spanking, or some such. I also think if you're going to introduce dirty words it's best to have her say them, I wouldn't just call my girl a slut, I'd order her to say "I am a slut and I want to be fucked". Thus you are gaining compliance from her, instead of making her feel abused.

If she says she likes it rough it probably just means she wants a really good pounding, I would recommend reading the article on adapted missionary on the main site as this will give you the tech you need to just pound her hard without getting excessively tired. Destroying a snatch basically means being good and hard and fucking her as deep as you can go, and really grinding that clit against your pubic bone with each stroke, and sticking at it intensely, staying on rhythm and preferably establishing good eye contact as well, until she comes. I would go pretty slowly to begin with, just focusing on getting as deep as possible and grinding her hard, and gradually speed up as/when you both want.

Hope it helps!

Ray
 

Richard

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I would leave the girl alone.

The fact that she wants to fuck your friend again but not you means you did something way different than him and since I am the "learning from everything" type I'd touch base with your friend and ask him how he fucked her. He's obviously willing to fuck the same girl as you (even if you fucked her second) so I imagine he'd be down to tell you what he did so you can reflect on where the differences are.

Beyond that, I'd say leave this girl alone as Ray and Rad pointed out. There's a lot of pussy out there but, if you are wanting to send her a message (which I don't suggest because like I said, there's a lot of pussy out there) then I'd go with something along the lines of what HA said except for the "grab a coffee or something" part. I'd leave it at "Just wanted to touch base with ya" so she's the one steering from there and that allows you to see where her head is at.

I don't believe that the guy should always be in control, especially in a situation like this where she's already determined her attitude about you - you simply don't have the credibility or interest from her required to stay in control here so you have to be aware that it's at her discretion to see you again or not. I'd also say that in future interactions with women be a smooth front seat driver (it's how I describe my style) - let her be the one driving the car, but you be the one to tell her where to go.

-Richard
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Ok guys, thanks for the information. I decided not to text her and just leave her alone. I'm going to make sure I don't make the same mistakes again next time.
 
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