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Girls in auto-rejection

LoneWolf14

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Do girls in auto-rejection get jealous? Let's say you're pretty sure a social circle girl (on the periphery) is in auto-rejection because she couldn't get you whenever she wanted and she sees a pic of you with another girl or sees you flirting with other girls. Will she feel any kind of jealousy? Can girls in the said state still be jealous?

Also, will girls in auto-rejection still try to get your attention by sending IOI's or coming up to you to say hi or stuff like that?

If it's not auto-rejection then what is it?
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Yep they do. I've encountered a couple type B women who actively tried to make me look bad when I didn't play their game. They would bait me for attention. It was kinda sad actually.

Good article on Auto Rejection
 
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LoneWolf14

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Oh yeah I read that one. So what made them go into auto-rejection? Moving slow? Attainability issues? Both?

Also how do you make the difference between auto-rejection and friend zone?
 

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With one she was pushing to meet me on a trip alone in the mountains while we were both married. I wasn't enthusiastic enough since I was going to be there with family and she felt like she was chasing me and I was withdrawing I guess. I blocked her on social media when she started making trolly comments to me. This was right about the time her life went to shit....drug addiction in her family and her husband left.

The other one was a girl in my HS class whose older sister I dated for a while...apparently she thought she wasn't good enough for me...

It is almost as if a girl thinks you are unattainable, and she will go to all lengths to drive you away and then want you to "miss" her. Best bet in this case is to totally ignore her and cut all contact. Don't even refer to her. Don't reward bad behavior...
 

LoneWolf14

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Wow that sounds awful. I hope none of that will ever happen to me. Those girls do sound crazy, geez.

The reason why I'm asking is because I messed up with a girl I wanted to date. She kinda had a crush on me for a couple of months and due to having had a bad experience prior to her I've been holding back pretty much the entire time even though she was giving me very blatant signs. That bad experience ended in friend-zone and it did so because I was clingy, needy, texting that girl's phone, acting insecure and like a nice guy. Which is what will usually take you into the friend-zone, from what I can understand. I haven't done none of that with this girl.

I intently kept the interaction from moving forward, had built some rapport with her but nothing serious, we wouldn't usually go beyond small talk and casual flirting, I didn't get to know her, I think we only texted 3 times (she initiated it the first time to tell me that I looked good in a suit, then we had a brief chat; the second time I texted her because I was organizing an event and I had issues recruiting people for it and I was lobbying people to join me and the third time we had a longer discussion in which I made her feel awkward at some point).

She ended up distancing herself from me a bit but she would still send me IOIs when she sees me and she seems to mirror my behavior a lot: if I'm acting cold, so does she, If I go talk to her / flirt with her, she will do it as well.

She's very inexperienced, like me, she's been rejected and fears it and I'm not sure whether she thinks that I'm not that into her, which would mean she's auto-rejecting, or she realized that I was a pussy and I guess she's friend-zoning me? I've only been friend-zoned once but I've had a handful of girls auto-rejecting themselves and all due to similar behavior to what I displayed with this girl.

What makes me unsure as to whether she's auto-rejecting or not is obviously the fact that I know that I was just manipulative and overall I acted like a pussy, but I don't know whether she felt that or not.

Also can you get friend-zoned if literally nothing happened and you haven't gone beyond small talk and flirting and only texted a couple of times? Am I predicting correctly that I seemed unattainable to her and it has nothing to do with friend-zone?
 

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I wouldn't call that (what you describe) as auto-rejection. I think you sent her mixed signals so she is staying at a distance to guard her pride and not have her heart broken.
There are pages and pages of websites that tell you how to get out of the friend zone. read 10 or 20 and take the initiative to apply that.
 

LoneWolf14

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So you think she's friend-zoned me?

I mean if she backs off in order to protect her pride, because I've only sent her mixed signals and haven't really built any rapport, isn't that closer to auto-rejection than friend zone?
 

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I kept reading articles about the friend-zone and the constant seems to be that you get there when you're spending a lot of time talking to a girl, hanging out with her, acting needy, white-knighting, orbiting and so on. I haven't done any of these, maybe you could make a case for orbiting since we would spend some time together in social circle activities, or if we ran into each other at college in our 10 minute breaks but since these are all a social circle activities you're kinda orbiting around people you know more or less right? So we had very little rapport, I don't really know much about her and neither does she about me, we only shared career prospects and shared a couple of childhood stories and that's it. We haven't talked about family, not even shit as basic as music tastes, favorite food and so on.

The problem is that there was a lot of tension between us. We sometimes flirted but we mostly engaged in it whenever the tension was going down so we would spice shit up again. Other than that we would try to make each other jealous (odd, immature and unhealthy since we don't know each other and there wasn't really any need for anything like this) but I would usually have good reads, not fall for the bait yet I would try and succeed to make her jealous in return. Or if I wouldn't get her to do something that I wanted, I would flirt with other girls, and act very aloof, like a jerk towards her and this would you usually make her sad and confused.

So this is very awkward since we don't really know each other, yet we're doing dumb and goofy shit like that towards each other as if we were exes trying to get back together. So this is why I am so confused as to where I stand with her.

For instance, out of Chase's 14 signs that you're in friend zone, only moving slow applies to my case but even he acknowledges in the comment section of that article as well as other articles like 'hooking up with friends' that it doesn't really apply to a social circle girl that you don't know well. The reason why I though it's auto-rejection is because her behavior seems to be more specific to her being in that state. Also it says there that if you're acting aloof on top of moving slowly, she will end up in auto-rejection. However what's indeed confusing is that she hasn't really gone cold (she did on some occasions go ice-cold but last time I saw her which was 2 months ago she seemed to have warmed up a bit; she was the one who came up to me to say hi). And on top of that what you told me about her protecting her ego and trying to prevent a heartbreak seems to be specific of auto-rejection. I didn't manage to find anything like that in relation to being slotted into the friend zone, but if you know of any such material I would greatly appreciate a link or something.

Also, as I side note I did have similar cases in the past with girls that I was much closer with. They would usually go cold, then warm up a bit again, some (rarely) would try to friend-zone me but I could tell that they didn't actually see me as a friend and were doing it simply to protect their ego. One girl in particular who I knew had a huge crush on me would refer to me as a friend but then she would tell me that she's in love with me and that I'm hurting her and shit like that. I would usually dismiss that by saying stuff like 'yeah, you know we're not friends so cut the bullshit'. What I noticed was that their attraction level was hitting new highs but the bad precedent would make them keep their guard higher than before.

Anyway, thanks for taking time to respond. I may or may not sooner or later to get this girl warmed up again but what I'm learning now is invaluable.
 
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