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alleniverson

Tribal Elder
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To Chase and the other writers here at Girlschase,

This website has changed my life. I started reading it a little over 3 years ago, and through the resources available as well as my own insights and handwork have turned from a socially uncalibrated, wimpy virgin to someone who is consistently complimented on not only my ability to seduce women but my overall, high social competency and intelligence. I've gone from a kid who was nervous to speak up in class or talk to pretty girls one-on-one, to someone who loves the spotlight, can keep the frame and lead hot/high value women where I want to within minutes, and is proven to be an incredibly effective salesman. I don't attribute all of this to GirlsChase, but many of the building blocks that helped me in getting to where I am today are due directly to Chase, Ricardus, and other GirlsChase writers.

Now my point with this post is not to sound like a cocky douche. And I am well aware I have plenty of room to grow in all areas. I am saying these things because I am so fucking grateful to you, Chase and the other writers in impacting me in an amazing way, and I am wondering why have more people not been exposed to the great content of this site and why is it not more popular?

I may be wrong, and GirlsChase may be the craze around the United States, as it should be, but I have brought the site up to many other men of all ages (specifically college aged guys because I hear them talking about tactics in getting girls everywhere I go), poking at them to see if they read dating websites, and even showing them this website to see if they've seen it before. None have, despite many reading other websites with similar subjects. I have been to every major dating website on the net I believe, and GC has the best content.

I guess my question is this. I love this website and believe it can help many other men as much as it has helped me.

Chase: What are you doing for marketing GC, have you tried targeting the college market, is there any way I could go about working for GirlsChase in marketing the company (I am a marketing student myself with a massive social web at a school of over 50,000 kids with experiences in marketing for different companies), and what are your plans for the future of the site?

I know you're a busy guy and this is a long read, but the American public (and other countries too, of course) have to see this stuff. Either respond here or DM me, because this website lies near and dear to my heart and I am extremely interested in helping grow the GirlsChase brand and business through providing a different perspective and new ideas and plans I already have written out.

Thanks for reading,

Allen
 

Drck

Cro-Magnon Man
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I share your enthusiasm, however I see couple issues:

1. They say teacher appears when the student is ready. Personally I didn't have access to sites like this, but there were lots of magazines and web sites related to dating or romantic relationships. I simply didn't care, I used to think it is ridiculous. I believe that there is lots of guys there who don't give a damn about personal improvement or seduction. IMO this is probably one of those: open your own business and become ritch, or eat healthy and start lifting weights. It all sounds good, but most don't do it...

2. Think about what is being thought here: Guy sleeps with multiple women, he doesn't provide for any of them.... That's sort of against main stream idea of functional society, there could be lots of backlash. Think about what religions that try to keep traditional marriages functioning would say. Think about more and more families that wouldn't have traditional father, that's a disaster for kids... Children should have functional families, they need fathers more than ever, they need providers...

3. How about competition? Say now there is 1 guy out of 10 who is paying attention to this, so the competition is relatively low. Imagine though that you go out and every other guy is working on seduction. 5 out to 10, or 7 out of 10.. what will be your chances to get girls that you want? Even Multiple times LOWER than today...

4. Girls will catch up to this very fast. They will see right away through the styles, through the fundamentals, through the attempts of fast pulls during day games... Although there is lots of good stuff in personal development, think about it - if most guys learn this, after all the hard work and years of trying, even the best of the "seducers" will become just average Joes. The dating market will be flooded with seducers. The behavior that takes YEARS to develop will be closely monitored by girls, and every guy who behaves in such way will automatically raise red flag. All this will make it only much more difficult to everybody, and mostly to other guys who simply don't care about seduction...


Just a thought...
 
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trashKENNUT

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What is "truth" will eventually sell well like Bruce Lee but sometimes it doesn't.

I don't know the future. No one does

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Chase

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Jack-

I appreciate the care and support, man.

Part of the problem is guys don’t want to share this stuff on social media. Nobody wants “How to Sleep with a Girl!” showing up in his Facebook feed to all the women he knows and his aunts and his grandma. That limits the virality of a business like this, unless you want to go the harmless/joke-y way like a Vitaly ZD or a Simple Pickup, but that gets in the way of effective teaching. We’ve tried marketing on places like Lockerdome, but it doesn’t work there either, though “why” is a less easy question to answer for that site.

Press I’m sure we could do and I have a guide to doing press well I’ll probably follow at some point. My concern with that is it’s boom-and-bust; the press gets wind of something that makes for a good story, you get a temporary feeding frenzy that generates loads of traffic and eyeballs, and then the story gets old, the press stops running it, and you’re more or less back to before, except now people are less inclined to write about you until/unless you come up with something equally sensational to have them cover. For that, I’d rather wait until we’ve got a really well-optimized site that does exceptionally well at turning visitors into readers and customers. We’re okay at that now, but there’s a lot I’d like to change that can make us much better, and I don’t want to turn the press spigot when most of that will only end up washing over us, causing a lot of controversy and sensationalism, yet resulting in little lasting gain for the business.

Other forms of marketing I’ve been studying heavily all year, and once I’m done with building our next program (will we be done recording and editing by New Year’s? Doubtful, but I’m trying for it) we’ll start rolling out new marketing projects around search, affiliate, cold traffic, guest posts and interviews and buzz building in-niche, etc. These channels offer a lot more targeted traffic than social/viral and press, and they aren’t as boom-and-bust. But again, they’re only as good as your ability to convert the people they send into long-term readers and customers. You can’t afford to do much if your efforts don’t bring in much coin.

What I’d ideally like to do long-term marketing-wise is really hone our marketing efforts in those other areas above (non-social, non-press), so we’re getting large amounts of targeted traffic from guys who will be interested in this, without being some big mainstream cultural phenomenon. I would prefer to be the underground phenomenon that guys whisper about and only a few girls know rather than that place the media labels then talks about incessantly as 'that pick up artist website' or what have you.

At the same time, I have had a couple of senior members of the boards tell me recently about girls forwarding them Girls Chase articles and whatnot; one of the writers for GC had a girl showing him the GC homepage on her phone with one of his articles being the second one down on the page without her realizing he knew about the site, let alone wrote for it. So it does get around somewhat. We have a surprising number of female readers.

To the guys concerned about girls “getting wise” if this stuff gets out there, even if you get a lot of press the only things that girls (and even most guys) get wise to are the tactics the press leads with. There’s just so much depth to any method that most people will never bother to investigate that the only golden geese that get killed are the ones specifically talked about publicly. So with old school PUA, negs and opinion openers were out because these were the ones the press talked about incessantly. But stuff like false time constraints and time dilation and challenge screening all still work fine and don’t get identified because no one talked about them. And even negs and opinion openers still work fine, so long as you’re not using the same ones verbatim that showed up on talk shows and women’s magazines. Even if she’s heard “Nice nails, are they real?” in Glamour or Cosmo, telling her “I love your heels, they make you look tall” at a natural point to say it in conversation still won’t register as a neg. Most guys out there still think PUA is just fuzzy hats and cheesy manipulation. Press only deals in superficials.

If I ever do press for GC (and that’s far from certain; I may never hit the press circuit), what I’ll most likely do is pick a few things that sound good and clever on TV but are incredibly minor elements of the game, and use those in any press we got. I’d do something we don’t do much of or focus on here, like “creating a love at first sight moment” or something like that. Sounds good, you can sell some tech around it, but you’re not killing the golden goose.

And the press will never get far with reporting on this place on its own unless it can get me on TV; everyone wants to talk to the top guy, and at least right now, when I get press requests, I just turn them down. There’s no story there if you’re trying to report on some small business but can’t even get the main guy from it on your show. No one wants to watch a new story that just shows pictures of a website and provides third party speculation; they’ll run a story about something where they can get an interview from someone important instead.

Chase
 

LearningMan

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This site is available for those men who are LOOKING for it. I found it by searching for something like "how to text girls"
I think Chase realizes that a certain number of guys are looking for this information. Plus, the more mainstream something becomes, the more diluted it becomes!!!!!!! The current content isn't really very mainstream in a soundbyte/clickbait headline way, like: "3 easy ways to pick up girls" or "learn this secret to get laid today"

And I'm glad. A few years ago, a buddy let me borrow some CD's from a mainstream PUA system and it seemed ridiculous....opinion openers,scripted lines and acting like a jerk? That was completely incongruent with my nature.
After stumbling upon GirlsChase, I was able to visualize myself only tweaking my habits to achieve success.....for example, after reading about "eye game" on the blog I realized although it is one of my strengths, i wasn't consistent with its application. Since its one thing I've really focused on, girls really respond favorably to my eye game! I've heard a couple different things: "You're really good with your eyes" and "I can't resist when you look at me like that!"

Thanks again Chase!
 
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