FR Glutes Gym Girl

[Dark_Stallion]

Hey guys, made another approach and wanted to document it, I think the problem I’ve been having lately is closing, asking girls for plans and actual meetups during the approach, usually I’ll approach a girl, get her instagram, then try to set up something via that, which hasn’t been working.

Went out yesterday, but nothing notable happened, bad night tbh which had me a bit sad, but what better way to cure that than an approach and actually follow through the entire process.

I saw her using the foam roller, and asked where I could get one, at which point she offered me hers since she was done.

I said thanks, went down next to her and started using it, made small talk such as what she’s hitting today. Tbh the convo at first wasn’t great, so I paused for a bit and did my thing.

After finishing using the foam roller, I offered it back to her, to which she said no thanks, she said I could put it back though.

I said that no one puts anything back here, and rolled it someplace random, and asked if she comes here often.

She told me she was skipping class, to which I teased “OMG that’s so badddd” and “come on you gotta rise above the rest” also told her I usually skip class.

She told me that she didn’t want to hit her workout today, glutes after I said “oh all girls love to hit glutes.”

She said that she was going to half ass her workout, and then I built up the date idea, for us to grab smoothies below my house.

First, I asked her if she knows any good places for PROTIEN shakes, to which she said no.

Second, I said “god I am really in the mood for a PROTIEN shake under [location], can you recommend me a shake?”

She recommended some wrap, but didn’t know much about smoothies,

Then I said “ok today after this imma go and try out a shake, later this week imma take you and put you on a shake” to which she said sure.

I asked for her number then, she asked which form of contact I should grab, which I said the number, then said “wait ur not one of those girls who says she’ll text back and never does right” to which she said no, qualifying herself to me.

I then proceeded to grab her number, while she was typing it in, I asked her about her Halloween costumes, to which she didn’t have them picked out yet, to which I said “goddamn i thought most people had them picked out months ago, gotta get on that” it’s like a week away tbh.


After this I said nice to meet you and went about my day, girl was smiling but almost in a nervous way, apart from the handclasp, didn’t touch her tbh we were at a gym, didn’t want to come off heavy. Also asked her name a bit later, around when I was seeding the shakes idea.

Texted her the icebreaker text, no response yet only been 1/2 an hour.


Any other things I need to work on, to improve retention and get more dates and 1 on 1 with girls? I have no problem going up to girls, and flirting with them, but I can’t seem to take it anywhere after this. I know girls also see me as an attractive guy, I do catch them checking me out.

 

[average_daygamer]

Hmm, I love a good gym approach.

There were atleast 4 cuties at the gym today I could have approached, but didn't.

I noticed one really stretching and it could have been considered obscene. I thought of an opener like "nice flexibility, I need to work on mine". But I couldn't go over to her stretching matt whilst she was stretching and say that, could I. Especially as she was facing away from me and I had a perfect view

I really don't approach in the gym as much as I should, but sometimes I want to just lock in and get the hell on with my workout.

Your opener on the foam roller was good, but I struggle to feel sincere transitioning from these very situational openers. A comment on the girl herself seems more genuine, like complimenting her dedication or flexibility. But can seem creepy if you notices you were watching her, especially in more...compromising positions.

I think your teasing was good, I gotta do more of that like "your skipping a workout!? You're a naughty girl".

As for any tips, I don't have any myself at all. I would be interested to know if she replies or not.

If not, consider a follow up text. But I would be worried of making it awkward if you see her again there, so make it as casual as possible.

Well done on seeding the date, I think when I try that I struggle to get the girl to solidly commit to anything. So if she committed there and then, it's surely a good sign.

Do let me know if she replies to your text or not. The last 4 number closes I have got from daygame never did.

 

[Dark_Stallion]

Small update to the situation, she responded the next day saying “no problem! nice meeting you.”

Tbh I left it for 2 more days not saying anything, just sent a text saying “hope ur weekends is going good, I tried the [smoothie choice at smoothie place], what’s ur schedule looking like to grab a smoothie sometime this week there?” Already asked for that date idea to which she said sure, gonna leave it for another day or two and focus on other leads, and other work until she responds.

Gonna try to use one of chases texting guides, except trying to make the texts as concise as possible.

Maybe my next follow up should be a voice note.

 

[Ratata]

AFAIK the meet seems textbook, but she's stalling since probably there wasn't enough sexual tension, not enough attraction, mystery, sexual vibe.

This question is probably gonna startle you but... Did you get a hardon while talking to her? You don't have to answer, but if you did, that's usually a good sign.

More often than not when I get it, it's because of micro-expression / mirror neurons from her just hitting me out of the blue. We don't even need to talk about anything special. Also that unbearable tension that sometimes happen when you meet a girl that's really into you. Omg, so sweet! Anyway, that's usually also a sure sign that she'll meet you again...

Though sometimes she's got a dude, or it's complicated or whatever, then just escalate IMHO. Dare to escalate in places you wouldn't normally. If I get that feeling more than once when talking to some girl I met, I'll legit take her around the corner and make out with her. I'll do the usual compliance tests, with the last compliance test being to ask her to go out for some air, or join you for an ice cream at a nearby store, or whatever. (Just grab her hand and go "come!" - it's super manly and mysterious. Tho obviously stop if she gets uncomfortable.) On the way, or around the corner, I'll find a way to make out with her. It doesn't have to be perfect. Hell, one of the worst ones I did was, cuz I just couldn't get a good vibe or position, so I just stopped her by grabbing her shoulder, turning her around. Then I said to her "Omg I just can't bare this anymore!" Then I kissed her.

If making out with her doesn't land you a date, then idk know what will. Which leads me to the next question; did it ever feel like that? Did the question ever make you nervous? Did you think about it, and wonder what would happen if you did that because you suddenly got the urge but just didn't dare to do it in the moment? Well, if you're asking yourself those questions, it's usually a good sign that you're onto something. And there's only one way to find out, and that is to get balls!

Anyway, back to the actual phone game here. So, I'll let you know in advance that I freaking HATE phone game. But I've made it work for me. I almost never text my girls, unless we're actually friends. No phone sex. No flirting. The only texts I'll send her is "Busy this weekend?" Or "Busy on day xyz?" She'll text yes or no back. If no, I'll suggest a meetup. If she says yes, then just plan logistics. But if she doesn't bite - and this is important - I'll shoot the ball into her corner. Like so "No problem. Hey, just let me know when you can hang out. Would love to see you again." That last part is optional. However, this way of texting assumes you did your work IRL, face-2-face. You lead her into it. you decide what kind of online relationship you'll have. If she respects you, and especially if she already went to bed with you - to a large extent you get to decide what kind of online relationship you have as well. And I like peace and quiet, so that's what she'll get - which is great, cuz it makes her miss you more. You become a contrast to all those needy men who text her all the time and wants to see her, or tries to manipulate. When you send a text to her, it becomes a major event in her life, so she'll take it seriously, and she'll know it's the only chance she gets to see you, so most likely she'll see you. Or at least that's how most girls treat me.

So, if you're into manipulation or tactics or "good communication" go ahead. You have the option. For those who likes that kind of thing, awesome. Keep doing it. Ofc it feels like a win when you successfully set up an open loop and go "Omg I just saw the strangest thing, and it reminded me of you!" But that is at its core manipulation, and most women are savvy to it. They'll only bite if they're already interested in you. Then they'll give you the easy route and go "Omg omg whaaaaat tell me, I'll come fuck you if you tell me!" (Not a real example, I'm just illustrating how they'll make it easy for you.) But if she isn't, then her reply will be bland, if she replies at all. Cuz she already knows that you're gaming her. Unless low IQ, I mean... But I like quality chicks.

IMHO you did your best here, but you ended up asking her questions, which is usually - but not always - a losing battle. Asking question can be powerful if done right, but IMHO you ended up needy over text here. It seemed like putting out fires, or "OMg I hAvE To AsK a qUesTion To saVe this convo omg!" I think it showed in that threat. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but that's the vibe I got from reading it. A better reply would simply be "Kewl, no sweat, msg me when you want to see me."

However, a ball-pass reply like above requires something really special. It requires discipline. For one, you must not be lead into temptations. O Lord, save me from temptation!!! Because now you have to fight the urge to double text. Moreover - and probably way more importantly - you'll have to move on with your life and a) either get cracking on building your life, or b) meet 10 other chicks ASAP. Both are equally valid. But here's the important part: Anything to get your mind off her! So start working, or start meeting new chicks. Now. Do push-ups if you have no other option. 100, at least! Until your arms break.

Anyway, hope this helps.

 

[Dark_Stallion]

AFAIK the meet seems textbook, but she's stalling since probably there wasn't enough sexual tension, not enough attraction, mystery, sexual vibe.

This question is probably gonna startle you but... Did you get a hardon while talking to her? You don't have to answer, but if you did, that's usually a good sign.

Hmm thinking about it there wasn’t on my side, I have gotten hard ons from talking to girls in the past(after building up sexual tension) didn’t have one here, even in the gym.

Teased her, I try not to build up too much sexual tension in the first time meeting someone in the gym, unless she seems open to it.

More often than not when I get it, it's because of micro-expression / mirror neurons from her just hitting me out of the blue. We don't even need to talk about anything special. Also that unbearable tension that sometimes happen when you meet a girl that's really into you. Omg, so sweet! Anyway, that's usually also a sure sign that she'll meet you again...

Though sometimes she's got a dude, or it's complicated or whatever, then just escalate IMHO. Dare to escalate in places you wouldn't normally. If I get that feeling more than once when talking to some girl I met, I'll legit take her around the corner and make out with her. I'll do the usual compliance tests, with the last compliance test being to ask her to go out for some air, or join you for an ice cream at a nearby store, or whatever. (Just grab her hand and go "come!" - it's super manly and mysterious. Tho obviously stop if she gets uncomfortable.) On the way, or around the corner, I'll find a way to make out with her. It doesn't have to be perfect. Hell, one of the worst ones I did was, cuz I just couldn't get a good vibe or position, so I just stopped her by grabbing her shoulder, turning her around. Then I said to her "Omg I just can't bare this anymore!" Then I kissed her.

Hmm I get what ur saying, but this approach was at the gym right before she started her workout, couldn’t imagine doing something like this, in a street approach could make more sense.

Actually built up a lot of tension between me and a girl in a bar, she was taken and seemed pretty in love with her bf(I think if the bf wasn’t in the picture, she would have been interested, based on the way she was describing her bf, we seem pretty similar tbh). Anyways I cut the tension by friend zoning her, tbh this isn’t a girl that I want to seduce, just because she seems in love with her bf, not my thing morally(if she doesn’t give a shit about her bf neither do I though).

If making out with her doesn't land you a date, then idk know what will. Which leads me to the next question; did it ever feel like that? Did the question ever make you nervous? Did you think about it, and wonder what would happen if you did that because you suddenly got the urge but just didn't dare to do it in the moment? Well, if you're asking yourself those questions, it's usually a good sign that you're onto something. And there's only one way to find out, and that is to get balls!

Tbh when I was asking her out for the date plan I was a bit nervous on the inside, never felt the urge to make out with her, ig this shows the lack of sexual tension.

Anyway, back to the actual phone game here. So, I'll let you know in advance that I freaking HATE phone game. But I've made it work for me. I almost never text my girls, unless we're actually friends. No phone sex. No flirting. The only texts I'll send her is "Busy this weekend?" Or "Busy on day xyz?" She'll text yes or no back. If no, I'll suggest a meetup. If she says yes, then just plan logistics. But if she doesn't bite - and this is important - I'll shoot the ball into her corner. Like so "No problem. Hey, just let me know when you can hang out. Would love to see you again." That last part is optional. However, this way of texting assumes you did your work IRL, face-2-face. You lead her into it. you decide what kind of online relationship you'll have. If she respects you, and especially if she already went to bed with you - to a large extent you get to decide what kind of online relationship you have as well. And I like peace and quiet, so that's what she'll get - which is great, cuz it makes her miss you more. You become a contrast to all those needy men who text her all the time and wants to see her, or tries to manipulate. When you send a text to her, it becomes a major event in her life, so she'll take it seriously, and she'll know it's the only chance she gets to see you, so most likely she'll see you. Or at least that's how most girls treat me.

So, if you're into manipulation or tactics or "good communication" go ahead. You have the option. For those who likes that kind of thing, awesome. Keep doing it. Ofc it feels like a win when you successfully set up an open loop and go "Omg I just saw the strangest thing, and it reminded me of you!" But that is at its core manipulation, and most women are savvy to it. They'll only bite if they're already interested in you. Then they'll give you the easy route and go "Omg omg whaaaaat tell me, I'll come fuck you if you tell me!" (Not a real example, I'm just illustrating how they'll make it easy for you.) But if she isn't, then her reply will be bland, if she replies at all. Cuz she already knows that you're gaming her. Unless low IQ, I mean... But I like quality chicks.

IMHO you did your best here, but you ended up asking her questions, which is usually - but not always - a losing battle. Asking question can be powerful if done right, but IMHO you ended up needy over text here. It seemed like putting out fires, or "OMg I hAvE To AsK a qUesTion To saVe this convo omg!" I think it showed in that threat. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but that's the vibe I got from reading it. A better reply would simply be "Kewl, no sweat, msg me when you want to see me."

However, a ball-pass reply like above requires something really special. It requires discipline. For one, you must not be lead into temptations. O Lord, save me from temptation!!! Because now you have to fight the urge to double text. Moreover - and probably way more importantly - you'll have to move on with your life and a) either get cracking on building your life, or b) meet 10 other chicks ASAP. Both are equally valid. But here's the important part: Anything to get your mind off her! So start working, or start meeting new chicks. Now. Do push-ups if you have no other option. 100, at least! Until your arms break.

Anyway, hope this helps.

Well I hate texting girls or people in general much, the only question I asked her was her availability to grab smoothies, but imo this isn’t a “must have” girl with me, you are probably right about the lack of sexual tension, from my side and possibly even her side.

I could ping her with a voice message in a few days to follow up, but other than that I don’t have any real urge to follow up on this lead.

Thanks for the advice brother, appreciate it and shows that my game obviously needs tweaking and working on, but I have some sort of solid foundation.