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I think all beginner and intermediate guys need to read and focus on this next time they go out.
' 1- You can either come in in a way that clearly OFFERS value (good vibes, cool conversation, your stimulating self)
2- Or you can come in in a way that feels like it is TAKING value (asking, neediness, hopefulness, waiting for her to do something) Most people who come in in a value taking way don’t mean to be a value suck. They just aren’t coming in with anything obviously on OFFER that is of VALUE to the other person....
There are many ways to offer value:
You can be cool, confident, and fun,
You can be prestigious and high value,
You can have likable friends with you,
You can be insightful and intriguing,
You can offer access to valuable people and events.
You don’t have to do all those things. One is often enough.'
I can't stress enough how accurate this is to the guys who don't think about it. I think I do 3.5 of those 5 things when I go out. I go out solo so there are none of my friends with me. But I am confident and fun, I dress & act in a high value manner, my conversations are insightful [about her] and intriguing [about whatever the topic is - fashion, sex, beauty, dating, lifestyle, etc].
If we are having a longer chat then I may [or may not] bring up some valuable people I know in the area that they might want to meet, work with, or events we could attend together like a charity fundraiser. Maybe your network of colleagues could help her get a job/better job [once you get to know her better, obv]
If you're getting blown out quickly, or a warm conversation stales and you don't get her number or she never replies, you were not adding value to her evening or her potential dating and/or sexual life.
And as Chase wrote, one is often enough! Show hot girls you can offer more than one and you'll be sleeping with them in no time. If you look confident and are outwardly having fun, you're halfway home, no matter their age or beauty. Gen Z girls go out and practically nobody tries to hit on them these days.
Be the exception. Offer value.

