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Guys as you know i have been trying to experiment in pulling a 3 some from cold approach, as i go out a lot of the girls get a bit intimidated when i know i have a girl with me, so i told the main go dance and flirt with other dudes, so they don't Autor eject.... I have also seen form women online dating apps, facebook, instagram.... the reason i am writing this post is cause @James Cruse brought up this point:
https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...-successful-types-of-game-and-location.25736/
I think here we can assume that everyone is calibrating to the best of their ability in every interaction they go into, so it really doesn’t need to be said here.

Here are the shit i have observe which makes me extremely happy cause it totally increase actually my value, lets start with night game openers and actions:

#1 opener: "you are so beautiful"

#2 opener: "can i buy you a drink", now when she says "no" dude rebottle "at least i try"

#3 grabbing her hand ( you guys that know me i tell you never ever to do this in the club)

#4 you want to "dance" (you guys that know me i tell you never to do ask this)

#5 how are you? what is your name......


^note sometimes i am there and they never bother to screen for me being with her with the "how you guys know each other" ever.... so they waste night time game... A lot of dress like total shit guys, totally drunk (immediate turn off)

Lets go to online:

1.- you are so beautiful/gorgeous

2.- Dick pics...

3.- i want kids

Day game:

"you are so beautiful"




at least all clueless guys use the "you are so beautiful" opener....

Edit.- james clarified his point it was a total missunderstanding.... he was not saying everyone is calibrated per se, but to calibrate to women reactions instead of script or routine. He was not saying that "everyone is calibrated" per se, he clarified his position.
 
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Guys as you know i have been trying to experiment in pulling a 3 some from cold approach, as i go out a lot of the girls get a bit intimidated when i know i have a girl with me, so i told the main go dance and flirt with other dudes, so they don't Autor eject.... I have also seen form women online dating apps, facebook, instagram.... the reason i am writing this post is cause @James Cruse brought up this point:
https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...-successful-types-of-game-and-location.25736/
I think here we can assume that everyone is calibrating to the best of their ability in every interaction they go into, so it really doesn’t need to be said here.

Here are the shit i have observe which makes me extremely happy cause it totally increase actually my value, lets start with night game openers and actions:

#1 opener: "you are so beautiful"

#2 opener: "can i buy you a drink", now when she says "no" dude rebottle "at least i try"

#3 grabbing her hand ( you guys that know me i tell you never ever to do this in the club)

#4 you want to "dance" (you guys that know me i tell you never to do ask this)

#5 how are you? what is your name......


^note sometimes i am there and they never bother to screen for me being with her with the "how you guys know each other" ever.... so they waste night time game... A lot of dress like total shit guys, totally drunk (immediate turn off)

Lets go to online:

1.- you are so beautiful/gorgeous

2.- Dick pics...

3.- i want kids

Day game:

"you are so beautiful"




at least all clueless guys use the "you are so beautiful" opener....

I agree, these are really the worst case scenarios of uncalibrated guys.

I replied to your post to clarify what I was saying: that if I try one seduction method and then try another one, my calibration isn’t really changing.

Calibration is recognising and acting on non-verbal cues from the girl in front of you.

These are fixed cues that women display, and there is alot of different cues but they aren’t that different from woman to woman in your country of the same culture.

If you recognise many of these non-verbal cues, the seduction method is an overall response to those cues, essentially.

There’s a thread on this forum that I responded to about recognising when women want to have sex, that should help anyone here that is finding calibration abit confusing.
 

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:rolleyes: Imagine a man who is very good in basketball (after years of training) and who also makes a side income as a basketball trainer/coach saying "Guys in general are shit in their basketball game and uncalibrated, my honest observations"...
 
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:rolleyes: Imagine a man who is very good in basketball (after years of training) and who also makes a side income as a basketball trainer/coach saying "Guys in general are shit in their basketball game and uncalibrated, my honest observations"...

Nah the point he’s trying to make is that 99% of guys can’t even do the basics.

Even when I was a virgin the only thing I did from the list was #no5 “how’re you what’s your name” the rest was (for me) common sense avoid.

To your basketball analogy he’s sharing how newbies can stop travelling & double dribbling lol
 
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Nah the point he’s trying to make is that 99% of guys can’t even do the basics.

Even when I was a virgin the only thing I did from the list was #no5 “how’re you what’s your name” the rest was (for me) common sense avoid.

To your basketball analogy he’s sharing how newbies can stop travelling & double dribbling lol
99% can't do the basics because they don't practice or even see seduction/game as a skill. There is absolutely no point in a karaté master bashing ordinary guys (who don't regard hand to hand combat as a skill to be learnt) and then saying "it totally increases actually his value"...
 
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99% can't do the basics because they don't practice or even see seduction/game as a skill. There is absolutely no point in a karaté master bashing ordinary guys (who don't regard hand to hand combat as a skill to be learnt) and then saying "it totally increases actually his value"...
Nah you've missed it mate. He's referring to our competitive advantage in the field given that most players in it are uncalibrated. He's not bashing from a "mightier than thou" perspective, it's coming from a "get your shit sorted, it doesn't take much to dominate" POV..
 

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Tayo,

He's not bashing. The problem is guys here can be way too successful and they deserve the success. It looks like he is bashing.

I been thinking about the sanctions on Russia. It's amazing how people become communist and tries to take away other people's success and wealth.

Then when i look at their tiktok profiles, they are the ones that wants to be on the throne.


z@c+
 

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:rolleyes: Imagine a man who is very good in basketball (after years of training) and who also makes a side income as a basketball trainer/coach saying "Guys in general are shit in their basketball game and uncalibrated, my honest observations"...


lol! perfect example of uncalibration ^ what is your excuse.....
 

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99% can't do the basics because they don't practice or even see seduction/game as a skill. There is absolutely no point in a karaté master bashing ordinary guys (who don't regard hand to hand combat as a skill to be learnt) and then saying "it totally increases actually his value"...


^ you are such a genius, guys that don't study pick can't get laid????... How do you explain how did i get laid over 200 times pre reading ANY community book or knowing about the community??? how do you explain guys that are bullies and fight in jail and the streets that don't know karate, dude your arguments are insanely retarded, no offense please read this post before you make another stupid uncalibrated remark:




 

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^ you are such a genius, guys that don't study pick can't get laid????... How do you explain how did i get laid over 200 times pre reading ANY community book or knowing about the community??? how do you explain guys that are bullies and fight in jail and the streets that don't know karate, dude your arguments are insanely retarded, no offense please read this post before you make another stupid uncalibrated remark:




whatever... "master". :rolleyes:
 

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I think the most important thing.

And I get what you mean Tayo. I clarify below.

And I see this in the forums way too often. Can you find something that you already like, whether that's basketball or PUBG or TikTok or Command and Conquer, whatever... and learn pickup by association.

Let's say you love maths. You first discover, ask yourself whether you like maths or you like calculation.
And then learn how you can model/associate that with pickup.

Anyway,
There's a bridge missing between you and Skills. Those naturals. They see girls like abacus or some jigsaw puzzles. Listen to how they talk. It's like a game to them.

So while most guys don't have skills, the general public, and I agree with you. there's also numbers of guys who learn pickup via unorthodox means.

Girlschase becomes the education system per se, and this guys are now the vocational school learners.

They are still learning Pickup even if they say that they don't. Unfortunately, most guys don't. So, the issue here is we never really know who learns pickup, who doesn't, who learns pickup by unorthodox ways. And unorthodox means here is natural curiosity or natural game.


Bless everyone.

z@c+

Also, Michael Jordan once noted "You actually have to love the game."

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whatever... "master". :rolleyes:
Strong come back, maybe is time for you to learn calibration, read and understand context a poster said everybody is calibrated, this point was to make the point with samples that not everyone out there is calibrated... here come mr tayo with some derrailed that had nothing to do with anything and then weak attemps at trolling...
 

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Strong come back, maybe is time for you to learn calibration, read and understand context a poster said everybody is calibrated, this point was to make the point with samples that not everyone out there is calibrated... here come mr tayo with some derrailed that had nothing to do with anything and then weak attemps at trolling...
Hey "master", here is a good thread title to use next time - - > "If you didn't fuck over 200 women before learning game, then you are SHIT!" :)
 

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Hey "master", here is a good thread title to use next time - - > "If you didn't fuck over 200 women before learning game, then you are SHIT!" :)
Dude is this trolling or humor? Both weak, come at me with something better...this is your 3rd attempt... come on, you can do it:

-master, karate, 200 you are shit... weak brah, come at me with something midly amusong or humorus extremely weak.... this is my last respone to you, too boring and weak for my taste.... congrats you are the first dude to.make it to.my ignore list...
 

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Dude is this trolling or humor? Both weak, come at me with something better...this is your 3rd attempt... come on, you can do it:

-master, karate, 200 you are shit... weak brah, come at me with something midly amusong or humorus extremely weak.... this is my last respone to you, too boring and weak for my taste.... congrats you are the first dude to.make it to.my ignore list...
I won the Ignore list! Hurray, I don't get to see your posts without taking any action.
 

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I agree, these are really the worst case scenarios of uncalibrated guys.

I replied to your post to clarify what I was saying: that if I try one seduction method and then try another one, my calibration isn’t really changing.

Calibration is recognising and acting on non-verbal cues from the girl in front of you.

These are fixed cues that women display, and there is alot of different cues but they aren’t that different from woman to woman in your country of the same culture.

If you recognise many of these non-verbal cues, the seduction method is an overall response to those cues, essentially.

There’s a thread on this forum that I responded to about recognising when women want to have sex, that should help anyone here that is finding calibration abit confusing.
Yeah i see. So i actually agree it was a missunderstanding.... you are basically saying no to continue with a script without adpating to the reactions of the girl for the sake of continuing with the script that was the calibration you were referring to... i saw your response it was a total misunderstanding, i thought you were talking everyone out there calibrated. I edited op.
 

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In order to calibrate to the situation you need to have experience in that situation, know what to do in such situation. And this "knowing" usually comes after you had "success". So in case of an open, this means the girls starts talking to you for example.
An anology could be a shooter game where you have different weapons. For some people it is a common sense you will not go to interiors with close corridors with a bazooka. Maybe a shotgun or even an axe or sword possibly for better results. But if the guy was not there often, does not have access to a larger arsenal, does not know what kind of nonsters there are, what they are weak to, he cannot do much else.
They can do only one thing after many attempts, and that is to try different things. But you have to understand, they don't know what they do not know. If you have an arsenal of weapons, you will try a chainsaw next, laser gun, a tank, granade launcher. But if you have obly bazooka and you don't even know you can get different weapons, you are sort of doomed.

Maybe it is more of a technicality that it is not actually calibration that is the problem but experience. Point being, if a new guy is failing, I would rather tell him he did more than other dudes, he approached but he should try A now instead of X or Y and sed how it goes. And then try some more to get more experience in such situations and get more comfortable and a better feel for it in the future.
 

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In order to calibrate to the situation you need to have experience in that situation, know what to do in such situation. And this "knowing" usually comes after you had "success". So in case of an open, this means the girls starts talking to you for example.
An anology could be a shooter game where you have different weapons. For some people it is a common sense you will not go to interiors with close corridors with a bazooka. Maybe a shotgun or even an axe or sword possibly for better results. But if the guy was not there often, does not have access to a larger arsenal, does not know what kind of nonsters there are, what they are weak to, he cannot do much else.
They can do only one thing after many attempts, and that is to try different things. But you have to understand, they don't know what they do not know. If you have an arsenal of weapons, you will try a chainsaw next, laser gun, a tank, granade launcher. But if you have obly bazooka and you don't even know you can get different weapons, you are sort of doomed.

Maybe it is more of a technicality that it is not actually calibration that is the problem but experience. Point being, if a new guy is failing, I would rather tell him he did more than other dudes, he approached but he should try A now instead of X or Y and sed how it goes. And then try some more to get more experience in such situations and get more comfortable and a better feel for it in the future.


i mentioned in one of my post one of the problems we are having is exactly guys, guys are not getting the reps and success other guys at the same point in the seduction were getting, those references experiences...
 
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