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Haters, and being honest to woman.

maximus6004

Cro-Magnon Man
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When i started approaching woman, telling them i was going to talk to multiple woman at a time, it was a joke. I wasn't a high value man. I couldn't provide enough value to a woman that she felt like she needed my validation to stick around. By becoming a high value man, things tarted to change. My standards increased, and i was able to portray to woman i wasn't boyfriend material almost instantly without batting an eyelash, woman that i do attract to me just cannot get enough of me and they know that if they get to close they will only end up being hurt. So this brings me to being honest with woman straight up, and why its important to allowing them not to be hurt unless they do it to themselves.

It was another hot summe day, a regular day at work. One of my ex girlfriends was flying, and out of nowhere she broke down and started crying in my arms. She was depressed and her arms and legs were littered with cuts. She had tried to kill herself. One of the posts i had just read, pretty sure it was meting and dating submisive woman. The woman who are extremely blunt and straight forward with men almost instantly. Well this girl was one of those girls. She told a pilot, straight up who made a pass at her that she had heard about him and that if she wanted to see a small dick and a shitty lay she would come find him..... lol wow. With me though, she knew exactly what i was about and yet, she was the warmest person in the world towards me. Still blows my mind. She had asked to come stay the night with me and i obliged as i didnt want her to try killing herself again. In her drunken Rage she had been completely open to me that she cant find a man strong enough for her, and that she loves me but knows i would never be with her. She was still open and warm and cuddled with me all night, to her surprise i hadnt tried to sleep with her. This had shocked her, where i told her that i want to but she needs a friend more than a lover and i dont sleep with woman who are drunk. This is when she was honest in saying that so many men lie about their intentions with her, and how tired of it she is and can see straight through them.

Back on topic, getting to this point of honesty, still blows my mind where each woman knows im not only seeing them, but they are comfortable with only seeing me. When they ask if i am seeing multiple woman i can say yes and it bothers them a little but you can see how much warmer they become towards you. This is a cool feeling because you arent really treating them any differently or trying to hide anything from them. One girl actually as she was having sex with me, told me she hates that i am making other woman feel this good and she is a little jealous, to where she would get up, get dressed and walk out of my house only to call me next week looking for another lay.

Not only do woman become more open and warmer to you, it has stopped haters straight in their tracks. The next day, after letting my friend the suicidal one get her thoughts back together and walk out like nothing had happened, was then confronted by my neighbour downstairs. He started telling her how beautiful she was and asked if she was coming from my apartment. She said she was and thank you for the compliment. My neighbour decided to be the white night and told her that she should know that i am seeing five woman right now that he has counted entering and leaving my apartment. She looked back at him and scolded him, I know exactly what he is all about, dont worry about my well being.

Another incident like this happened to me. I was at the bar a couple months ago with a flight attendant on a date that went horribly because the woman, being from california was just so extremely rude and full of herself i ended the date. She was a tall thin brunette very beautiful, going to get her helicopter pilots license. The bar tenders couldnt stop staring at her the entire time we were out. a week later, a regular flight attendant i was seeing whom looked exactly like reese witherspoon was out with me at the same spot. It was a restaurant that wasnt a chain, but had the absolutely best duk noodle dish that i just had to show people. We had been sleeping with each other for a month and a half already and i was completely honest with her about seeing other woman. Here we walk in and sit down, first thing that happens before we even get a drink, i have a male bartender purposely make his way across the bar to say, i know you, werent you up here a week ago with a beautiful woman on a date? Talk about awkward. The woman i was with just looks at me and says, wow talk about getting thrown under the bus, to which pissed the guy off even more after i just laughed at him and carried on the night as if nothing had ever happened. unfortunately, the girl i was with told me a week later that she was falling in love with me and felt we shouldnt see each other anymore because she didnt want to be hurt.

The point i'm trying to make, is that after a certain period of time, i think it is ok to be completely honest with the woman you are sleeping with. In the beginning, i agree with Chase, as he says keep it vague but even to portray that you are talking to multiple woman is important. This helps keeping the haters at bay with a stupid look on their faces, and keeps woman from becomming hurt by false expectations. You would be surprised that almost every woman is ok with this, as long as you are honest. This doesnt mean run in and say, hey im seeing multiple woman, like it or bounce. If they ask its ok to be straight up with them. I' sure most of the experts realize this. I however did not realize this until only awhile ago where i was afraid to tell woman this in fear of losing them when only realizing the opposite effect happened.

Good luck guys, insight into this more would be appreciated.
 

Franco

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maximus,

I'm glad you've realized this, maximus! This is why setting expectations and being clear about your intentions is so key to being a successful seducer. Women are constantly plagued with men who lie and cheat and say what they want to say just to avoid a problem (rather than solve it). Most women will appreciate your honesty, and although it may hurt them a bit, they'll still see you in a much brighter light than they will any other men who work under the darkness of dishonesty.

Thanks for sharing. =)

- Franco
 
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sneaky_charm

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Hi Maximus!

Thanks for the post. Can you please let me know how exactly you bring up the topic?

What do you talk about when letting a girl know that you are not exclusive? Do you verbally state that, if so, how many days after having sex with her, and how many times having sex with her?

Also, do you set the mood by bringing up some similar topics before actually telling her that you cannot be exclusive?

- Kevin
 

maximus6004

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Now a days. They just expect it. Ill bring it up and they get bored as if.im telling then something they already know.

When I first started as a beginner usually when you are going through last minute resistance is when they bring.it up. Like they dont want to be a one night stand and ill tell then listen, I like you a lot if you want to keep seeing me.im cool with it, just know.im not looking for a relationship ship. Most of the time they are cool with it. Then ill tell them, im not.going.to go around town and brag about you or show pictures like a frat boy. I just want to enjoy your company every now and then.

Or, when flirting with then, ill say things like ill be your mistress or since I flirt with flight attendants a lot ill say your bpyfriend from the city I live in. I like to tell them im the pool boy. The mysterious sexy guy who tries to mind his own business but they secretly seduce into bed while the rich husband is out of town. Its all about priming them in the beginning for what you want. I like girls to stay the night, I dont know why I just like it. I let them.know I just want the company but dont expect it to be meaning a relationship. Most of the time the woman wont stay the night and it agitates me a little.

Thanks Franco.for the compliments though this took.me awhile to get down. It wasnt until.my fundamentals and game got.pretty good that would I was able to do this sometimes the girls.will walk away you gotta understand that they arent looking for that. Its rare though
 

sneaky_charm

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Alright! Since I'm a beginner, can you suggest some specific lines which I can state verbally to make it 100% clear that I'm not looking for anything serious, while at the same time making them stick with me for some fun times ahead?

- Kevin
 

maximus6004

Cro-Magnon Man
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In my opinion, id save this for intermediate and advanced. When I first started out, dont know about everyone else woman wouldnt stick around at all. Mostly because I was still.overweight, low self confidence, and just didnt really do anything with my life. So, if you havent got that together, id say stick to working.on those first, your fundamentals and conversation. Most of the time the woman you are sleeping with are probably chasing a guy like that and are going to be using you as a booty call.

However, if it ever does come.to.it. if she goves you last minute resistance its probably because of slut shaming. So confront her on that. Or you can just tease her about being a mistress, or flat out tell her. Be careful though if your not experienced enough they will see right through you amd be like alright deuces and walk away laughing at you. Read the article on how much effort to put into life. Its more likely that you will be chasing them for awhile until you get experience and are ok with letting woman walk away. Again though last minute resistance and teasing her about you being her mistress is where I would start.
 

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I remember when i started to talk about this how surprising it was how comfortable women are with this, or if they never had the opportunity to have an open and spontaneous realation with a man they are all for it. Besides our natural ignorance of women i think that social pressure plays a big role here where we are forbidden to see women as free sexual beigns and women in turn are forbidden to show themselves as such. So we play white knight, they play the spoiled princess and we all know the rest.

Thats why its important what max says about saying this in an honest an open way but most importantly women will see you are like that because how you behave, so women actually feel you are like that and they will be relieved to be able to act with you without being perceived wrongly and if they are not looking for that kind of man or they are afraid of it, they will just tell you and leave but you are going to be an independent, honest man to them and thats always a good thing, because you never know whats gonna happen tomorow, they might leave today but....
 
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