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Troy

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Sometimes I have a dry spell where most persons I text don't reply. I always wonder why they choose to ignore my messages. I use whatsapp a lot and as you might know there are blue ticks to show someone has read the message and there is the last online feature.

I feel sad when I see that they have read my message and don't even reply days later. When I spend time with female friends I'll sometimes use their phone to play a game. There phones are beeping every minute because someone cared to message them. I've noticed that when they reply it's mostly guys they talk to. Well that's obvious for a girl so I can't compare my results with a girls.

However I've seen guys whatsapp that has over 50 unread messages and it makes me feel so unpopular. What are these guys doing to get so many people, especially girls to want to talk to them so much?

Here I am messaging people and not getting most to reply. IMO no matter what I say it's like they never care to talk.

How do I get people interested to contact me?

I've reached the stage where I don't know how else to explain my problem. I've looked at how others text and done the same and I still get bad results. I'm thinking that it's not so much what a person says. It's all about WHO is saying it.

Ultimatum: My biggest wish is just being able to be a normal teen. I don't see my peers going through all these struggles. It is unfair that EVERYONE can just have others who want to chat without them doing anything while I have to be reading articles and posting here.

Seriously I don't know how to solve this. What should I do if people continue to read then ignore my messages?


Troy
 

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It probably has to do with how you interact with them in person. How do you act around them and how do they act around you?

Why does it matter to you, if people don't want to talk to you so much? They aren't your real friends if they're not responding to you at all. I see you're young, so i know texting all day on your phone is a thing most teens do. I'd say you would have to have a purpose to text them ,and add value to their lives.

Read Chase's article on how to be cool.
 

Jaimie Richards

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Howdy Troy,

I'll try to answer your question, but I'm afraid you won't want to hear what I've got to tell you. Each person is different in some ways, so I guess others will be able to give you some merrier advice, I'll just give you my 2 cents.

I very well understand where you're coming from, because I've always wondered how on earth so many people find it so easy to have endless chats over SMS or other means of "electronic communication". I've never truly figured how to break what you called "dry spell" - sometimes people would exchange messages with me for quite a while, sometimes no answers came. However, you should remember that we come from different backgrounds (I mean places in the world), so I may not be able to catch 100% of the spirit of your specific situation.

Without any further ado, I'll tell you this: you say you'd like to be a normal teen, but the way I see it, you have to accept that you're not a normal person per se. Neither am I, nor is anyone else here. Look at it this way: normal, regular, average Joe/Jane is a person not wanting to improve in any way, not wanting to achieve greater goals of any sort, not wanting to become a better person. As you see, we all here are different from that - we are self-improvement oriented people, so not normal by definition.

When I was a teenager and went to high school the vast majority of teenagers were focused either on (a) living their social lives with all the parties and getting drunk included (who cares about actually learning something at school? that's ridiculous!), (b) being stuck in online life and consuming mainstream culture or (c) both of them at the same time. That's their sole purposes of existence at that time. But you and I know - you're better than that, right?

Always remember that you have to be very careful about you want to get, because you might eventually get it. Would you really like to get immersed in pointless, endless conversations about nothing? Believe me, if you're busy and someone is always wanting to message or call you about some stupid, not-important-to-anyone stuff, then you firstly feel nice (due to getting attention) and then you become tired of it and just wish that it would finally stop for a while. Not because you don't like the person calling/texting or not because you don't want to hang out with that person, just because you're busy and can't spend time on something pointless.

Now I'll just try to focus on other part of your message:

- It may be a cliche, but remember - don't focus on being sad (when they don't answer you), just be awesome instead (like Barney Stinson used to say). By that I mean: focus on more important things in your life and treat it the same way you treat messages from girls. A guy who doesn't even bother to text "fuck off" if he doesn't want to talk to you is just a pussy, therefore: basically a girl. Treat 'em the way they deserve, bro.

- Time for something merrier and more important - my solution that's been working for me very fine for a long, long time and made so-called "dry spells" disappear:
1. Use SMS or other "electronic communication means" only to:
- set dates or meetings like going to cinema with friends, team activities (like running, playing sports or online, whatever you like&do);
- send interesting stuff that both you and message receiver relate to (for example you're both fans of books penned by Stephen King, so you just share news about a new upcoming novel);
- ask important questions about others life when you know there's something important (like his/her family member is in the hospital and you want to ask about their health or even something less dramatic stuff like results o final exams or 'driver's licence exam' etc.).
2. Other stuff to be dealt with without meeting - make a call.
3. All significant things to be dealt with on meeting (1on1 or group) if such meetings are possible.
Following this route, I don't care about not getting answers, because all these pieces of information seem to others (receivers) both significant and easy to answer. If I don't get an answer sometimes, then who cares? Sometimes people forget, sometimes they're too busy, sometimes they don't get it (SMS)... Many reasons, none of them worth of worrying about.

- How do you get others to contact you? Kinda easy: find people who share your interests. According to your profile: you like - for example - cooking and running. Just try to find either in real life, or online people who enjoy running and live in your area and run together. That may be a start to some great friendships and romances!
Also: you like cooking, right? So invite sometime people you know to your place for dinner or cake&coffee. I did it back in the day and it always was a good idea. This way you can practice your passion and get better while also improving your social life. It's always harder to not reply to a person who cooks sooo good... at least if you want to get some tasty food in the future ;)

- Last case: of course it is unfair that you have difficulties in areas that others treat like a piece of cake, but guess what? Your problems are always the ones most important for you, but if you exchange yours for problems of another person, then THAT problems would be UNBEARABLE and your previous ones would just seem 'meh... that's even a problem?'. Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and I bet that others would like to get your strong point in areas where they feel weak.

So... they don't answer you? Good, now you know who's not worth of your time (because is not your true friend) and can focus on sth more important - like becoming a better man. And remember - quiet sea never makes a good sailor. I know that obstacles always seem hard to shatter, but in the end you'll be so much better than those naturals without obstacles on their way... Just be patient and work hard&smart, man.

Also read something to cheer you up - search for:
- don't be so hung-up on pickup @ the boards (Chase's shown how different attitudes people have and why >99% of population never achieves anything worthy);
- Hector's article on how to get Warrior's Smile (great motivational existentialism - first upsetting, then making you stronger);
- if you want to change the way you worry about your problems, then search GC for CBT - Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy.

Take care, man and don't worry, it's just not worth it.
Jaimie Richards
 
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Franco

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Troy,

I think Drexel's summary hits the nail on the head.

It's really all about how those people perceive you. Are you being perceived as a guy that everyone wants to text (for one reason or another)? Are you this really popular guy who throws awesome parties and every person is texting you to find out when the next one is? Are you this really sexy guy that every girl wants to date, so every girl texts you in hopes that you'll ask her out? Are you a guy who has superior connections to higher value people and are able to connect your friends to those higher value people? What value as a man do you have to offer these people that you want to text you?

I've pretty much already given you the answer to this question in your last post about this, but you need to internalize it. You're looking for "texting tactics" to make people text you, but as you've already discovered:

I've looked at how others text and done the same and I still get bad results. I'm thinking that it's not so much what a person says. It's all about WHO is saying it.

So think about what changes you need to make to yourself to make these people want to text you. Instead of looking at the texts that your popular friends send out, instead look at the texts that other people are sending IN. What are they asking him? What are they telling him? What is it that they WANT from him?

That's the key becoming an individual that people want to talk to.

- Franco
 

Troy

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Money said:
It probably has to do with how you interact with them in person. How do you act around them and how do they act around you?

Most of these people I know as a acquaintance; usually we talk reasonably okay. A few jokes here and there. However, there are times that we run into awkward silences or I make a BIG mistake and it creates a negative vibe.


Jaimie said:
I'll try to answer your question, but I'm afraid you won't want to hear what I've got to tell you.

I'm here to get good advice so once it sounds sensible I'll try it out, always. From what you said it DOES make sense so I'll work on those things. I'm open to new ideas, good or bad critisms I will take because at the end of the day it only makes me better.

Always remember that you have to be very careful about you want to get, because you might eventually get it. Would you really like to get immersed in pointless, endless conversations about nothing? Believe me, if you're busy and someone is always wanting to message or call you about some stupid, not-important-to-anyone stuff, then you firstly feel nice (due to getting attention) and then you become tired of it and just wish that it would finally stop for a while. Not because you don't like the person calling/texting or not because you don't want to hang out with that person, just because you're busy and can't spend time on something pointless.

I wouldn't mind knowing what it's like to be the guy everyone wants to text. I get your point though. I made a post sometime back where I talked about getting girls I didn't like to stop texting me and Franco helped out there.

The girl's I don't want to date are usually the ones who are clawing for my attention and sometimes it's annoying. Meanwhile the girl's I like don't give me the time. Seems unfair? Maybe! That's all been discussed here viewtopic.php?f=26&t=8970

Drexel said:
Some level of flaking will always happen with women, it's just in their nature, but if tons of people are ignoring you, then you need to reassess what value you are offering to others.

The only plan I could come up with to offer people value is to make them laugh. I'm improving my humor daily and sometimes I manage a group of up to 5 with my jokes.

Uhm, apart from making people have a good time I still haven't found a talent that makes people want to contact me. I'm learning a lot on my own: example, DJ skills, cooking, sports. These are all stuff that add value but the biggest problem is that I just haven't found my niche ( something I'm really good at that I can focus most of my efforts on ).




Franco said:
It's really all about how those people perceive you. Are you being perceived as a guy that everyone wants to text (for one reason or another)? Are you this really popular guy who throws awesome parties and every person is texting you to find out when the next one is? Are you this really sexy guy that every girl wants to date, so every girl texts you in hopes that you'll ask her out? Are you a guy who has superior connections to higher value people and are able to connect your friends to those higher value people? What value as a man do you have to offer these people that you want to text you?

I don't know what I can offer them apart from a few jokes...Not a lot right? As I said above, to build on that, I haven't found something that I really like and I'm really good at that will attract people. Athletes are praised because of there speed, stamina e.t.c., chess players are praised for their ability to win matches and their intelligence. Me? Thinking about it I can't think of anything people would sit down and praise me about ( That's not to bash myself of course ).

I've done a lot of sports, done craft making, chess, quiz, gym work, swimming, technical drawing, woodwork, pharmacist training e.t.c.. and I haven't found anything I'm good at. That's probably why I have hit a plateau because people don't know me for any BIG achievement.

I was mostly at the bottom of the rung in most things I tried; sports being a big one. That said, I need a extrinstic skill to be known for but have trouble finding something I

1. Really like
2. I'm good at

How do I find my niche? I've seen guys with FAR worse game than myself getting ALL the girls because they are the fastest guy in school or have the intelligence of a dolphin.


So think about what changes you need to make to yourself to make these people want to text you. Instead of looking at the texts that your popular friends send out, instead look at the texts that other people are sending IN. What are they asking him? What are they telling him? What is it that they WANT from him?

I went out with old friends Saturday to watch a major track and field event. When we were coming back, one of the guys said girls were texting him nonestop. Chadwick, another guy said " Every girl is texting me to tell me stay safe. I feel like a boss man ".

Girls will text these guys saying things like " how is your dog?", " Are you going to the party tonight? ", " You played a great game last night ".

Troy
 

Jaimie Richards

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Hey Troy,

Good to hear from you again. As far as I can tell, you have awesome attitude and that's great. Keep persisting and you'll finally climb the mountains you want to.

Two things come to mind. First: you said something interesting - that some girls, who are not attractive for you, want your attention and the other group, the attractive one, doesn't want it. So what about this: revise data from GC about attainability and analyze your relations with them from that point of view. Then make a new thread and post both your conclusions and questions that come to your mind. That may be something to give you some light on your current situation.

On finding something you both like and are good at: let's reverse the process. As you've said, you've tried many things in your life. So now you know what you like and what you don't. Focus on two things - stuff that you like (even though not being good at) and stuff that you haven't tried yet. Group #2 has easy solution - choose something you guess you may like and try it. Group #1 is a little tougher - what things from it would you like to do in your future? Can you think about your dream career path?

If you find something you really like, then remember - getting good at something may very well be a long, long process 'till you reach your end goal. In the thread mentioned before, the one about not being hung-up on pick up, there is a great analysis of learning process done by Chase. It resonates with me very well, because I share similar experiences - all the things that I'm good at today are the ones that I liked in the beginning, but which were also the ones to give me the hardest time of all. Conclusion: if you really like something and that thing may become your passion (for example, when you're really good at it), then don't hesitate to put even more effort in it than the so-called 100 hour rule. From my experience, sometimes the things you love most are the ones that require a couple hundred hours (like 300-400) to give you the first glance of satisfaction that you dream about.

Take care,
Jaimie

P.S. And check if the things that you like are approached from the best possible angles. If you take the hard way, then even your whole lifetime may not be enough - but if you take one of the best routes, then by working both hard and smart you can achieve much more in relatively no time.

P.S.2 After posting I often reread my posts to correct minor issues - and I've just seen Ray's post, so I add this short note so I don't spam the forum. I couldn't agree more - focus on learning not to seek source of validation from others. As Ray said, you're worth of very high admiration and you don't need to compare yourself to others. Bravo, Ray, for your observation!
 

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Troy said:
I've done a lot of sports, done craft making, chess, quiz, gym work, swimming, technical drawing, woodwork, pharmacist training e.t.c.. and I haven't found anything I'm good at.
Just the fact that you have done, or at least tried, all these things makes you a high value guy. Unfortunately, your head is telling you the opposite -- looking for the negatives. Instead, look for the positives -- if you meet someone who does these things you will be able to connect with them. One challenge I've been having with my son the last 2yrs is that he loses interest if he's not 100% good at something first try -- and nobody ever is. For instance, I am absolutely crap at Vietnamese, however I am still able to connect with people who speak it, by asking intelligent questions and displaying what little I do know (and making a terrible mess of it).

It really appears to be a mindset issue to me. I am still coming to grips with the fact that by believing something, and putting it into practice, you can make it true. I will use another example here, something that occurred to me today: When I'm out and about with my kids, I don't normally approach, and when I do, I don't seem to commit to the interaction. This really frustrated me today as two really good opportunities were lost through my half-hearted approach. This has been a mindset issue because I feel I don't have the right to take a woman's attention when I'll probably get interrupted at any second. But I have realized that if I just fully commit to the interaction, and get practiced at dealing with interruptions from my kids in a savvy way and returning my attention to them as appropriate, then I will negate this negative mindset, and probably impress my girl a whole lot more than if I hadn't showed this savvy in the first place. Indeed, before these two approaches I had brought a girl to the park for a mini-date and she later texted me that her whole impression of me changed in a favourable way, despite the fact that I felt distracted by having to manage my parenting responsibilities whilst on a date. Interesting, huh? Honestly, all these things are just mindset issues!

Troy I am incredibly impressed with your dedication to get good at stuff, and all the things you are doing, and trying and your extremely positive attitude despite many hard knocks and how you take advice on board and implement it. And please don't take that in a patronizing way because in many ways I feel your journey parallels mine, I might be slightly ahead of the curve because I'm 39 but when I was 16 I dealt with essentially the same problems you describe, except I did not take action and gradually just bumbled my way towards being more socially skilled, two main turning points for me were having a life outside of school that I discovered through a bulletin board (essentially similar to the forums here, but local to my city), and discovering dance/rave parties when I was 19/20 or so.

What I believe is holding you back is basically your self-belief, and I would highly recommend that you read "Healing the shame that binds you" by John Bradshaw, to me this really tied together all the disparate threads in explaining where and how I was not achieving and why I was self-sabotaging, why I'd fall into depressions and why I struggled with it so much. I haven't completely put the recommendations of the book into practice but I am in the process of doing so.

Even yesterday I found myself tempted to fall into approval-seeking behaviour and I did not. I'm glad about this. I feel that part of your problem is approval-seeking too. A lot of your posts are essentially comparing yourself to others and you really need to internalize that you are a unique, amazing guy and the only approval you need is your own. Okay, easier said than done -- that's why I recommended you the book above. I also have plenty of other resources of course.

Ray
 

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Troy,

Not too much more to add here, but these...

Girls will text these guys saying things like " how is your dog?", " Are you going to the party tonight? ", " You played a great game last night ".

...are texts girls send to guys they like. So these are just simply interested girls texting your friend(s). You'll start to notice this from girls as well if they become interested in you but you only flirt with them (briefly) and give little else back.

- Franco
 

Troy

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Franco said:
You'll start to notice this from girls as well if they become interested in you but you only flirt with them (briefly) and give little else back.

A little clarification please....I'm getting two meanings from this part.

1. Are you saying that I flirt with them and give nothing else (value) back?

2. Or are you saying that I SHOULD flirt with girls who send texts like these then leave them to continue chasing?

Thanks

Troy
 

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Troy,

A little clarification please....I'm getting two meanings from this part.

1. Are you saying that I flirt with them and give nothing else (value) back?

2. Or are you saying that I SHOULD flirt with girls who send texts like these then leave them to continue chasing?

I'm not instructing you to do anything here, bud! I'm just explaining what the likely scenario is for your friend. He's probably occasionally flirty with these girls and leaves them wanting more. And he either doesn't want to give them more, or he doesn't know how to proceed to get more.

You can get girls to chase you like this if you want to, but a girl is only going to do this if she finds you attractive (in some romantic form or another) in the first place.

- Franco
 
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