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Jackson

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Hi there. My first post. I would really appreciate some feedback. A long tale here. Here's goes:

There’s this girl and we’re work colleagues. Flirting with each other for about six months straight. Everyone who saw us together asked why we weren’t together, and everyone who didn't know us and saw us together thought we were together. Basically, long story short, I was too slow with her and she found another guy. She did the whole “mean thing” with me, calling me names, saying how much I frustrated her (she said I frustrated her and she didn’t know why) and saying how annoying I was. So yeah, she met a guy, but this is where it get’s peculiar (at least to me). I genuinely have no idea what’s going on (I’m not very experienced, so I think this definitely has something to do with me being completely in the dark).

Our flirting pretty much lasted nonstop from April 2013 to August 2013 (although it still goes on, but more on that later). August 2013 is when she met her new fella. I remember the day very well when she said she met someone. I felt awful, although I didn’t show it on my face. At least I didn’t think I did. That night at work she kept on looking at me and playfully hitting me for no reason, almost a frustrated look on her face.

Anyway, months past. Still flirting with each other, but nothing substantial. First annoying thing was how she seemed to constantly divulge to me her and her boyfriend’s “nightly” activities in great detail. I told her I didn’t much care for this, but she would just laugh and carry on doing it, saying she found my reaction funny.

Anyway, December 2013 is when things took a weird turn (at least for me). It was literally just before Christmas (it was the 20-something of December). That day she was actually acting quite affectionate with me the whole day. Hugging me and kissing me. Nothing substantial, just little things. Anyway, that night at work we were just casually talking and then she was about to say something, but then quickly said “No, I don’t think you would like it. You'd call me a bitch". Of course, this prompted me to prompt her further, and I eventually got it out of her. She basically told me what I already assumed, that months ago (during the summer, just before she met her boyfriend) she had it bad for me and wanted to sleep with me, trying to get my attention. Well, I already said I didn’t bite because I’m an idiot, so that was that.

Since December 2013 three main things have happened: I’ve gone worse with her, teasing-wise, she seems to have gone worse with me and she still brings up the fact that we could have been sleeping together or maybe even more. Honestly, all these months later, and she still brings that up? Whenever we are on our own I would say that about eight times out of ten she starts teasing me very badly. She didn’t really do this before. It varies, but its mostly her touching my chest (she likes chest hair), sitting on my lap (sometimes in a provocative manner), biting me, hitting me, rubbing her foot over my groin or, although quite rarely, but its happened more than once, basically stroking my groin and “little friend” with her hand. As a result, I’ve pretty much broken the touch barrier with her, too, constantly caressing her legs, squeezing and slapping her behind, touching and fondling her breasts and other things.

It’s actually getting quite bad. Meanwhile, she continues to go out with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend goes away in June for seven months, BTW. She’s already said that if she can’t “cope” she’s coming straight to me. That’s another thing; too, she still constantly tells me that she still “would” and that she finds me cute and adorable and would sleep with me.

It’s just funny how she does things for no reason. She’ll hug me (proper strong hugs with both her arms wrapped around my neck) and then bite my neck and shoulder for no reason. She bit my backside through my jeans the other day, when I walked up the stairs in front of her.

So, long story short, the flirting isn’t so much flirting anymore, but real teasing. We were just talking last week at work normally, juts two friends. She was sitting and I was standing in front of her. Then for no reason she stretched out her leg (she knows I have a serious leg fetish, BTW) and pressed her foot up against my upper thigh. I then started to caress her leg, not even realising I was doing it, just as we continued to talk normally. Then she got up, gave me a tight hug and said “If only you’d said something sooner” and walked off. Where the hell did that come from?

There is much, much more I can name, like the time a couple of weeks ago when she told me about her and her boyfriend having sex, something that I told her not to do. I then went all quiet and unresponsive, and she just walked past me and looked at me, saying “What’s wrong, jealous?”. Again, no reason. But yeah, there are loads more I can mention, but I won’t.

Thank you if you’ve got to the end of this. I really appreciate it. So, am I just being cock teased or does this girl still seem to be interested in me? I genuinely do not know what to think anymore. It doesn’t help matters that we work together, in a job where there are only three or four members of staff at any given time, so we are very close together a lot of the time. But the real stuff usually only happens when we are alone.

So, any words of wisdom?
 

Mr.Rob

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Why didn't you have sex with her if she "clearly wanted it"?

If you think there's still a chance, make a move, see what happens.
 

Jackson

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Mr.Rob said:
Why didn't you have sex with her if she "clearly wanted it"?

If you think there's still a chance, make a move, see what happens.

Thanks for replying. I suppose it was the classic “afraid of rejection” bile. I got caught up in it. She is very attractive (truly), and she would have easily been the most attractive girl I would ever have been with. I was nervous, I suppose. It’s just everything she still continues to do. The amount of times she mentions her and her boyfriend, sees that I don’t like it, and then asks me if I’m jealous, usually grabbing me and forcing me to look her in the eyes.

I’m not completely naïve, though. She’s definitely a player. That much is clear, but I’ve also seen how she acts with other people. She seems to be much more “severe” with me, and she’s even said she treats me differently to all her other male friends.

Something I didn’t mention before, as well. Some days she can be very different with me, almost acting as though I don’t exist. It’s almost like she will put up a barrier between us and our relationship for that day would be very professional and basically like that of normal work colleagues. And then other times, like I mentioned in my first post, she’s literally all over me, border-lining on the affectionate. We’re talking hugs, touching and, sometimes, a lot of kissing on the cheek, neck and even some biting. Again, though, when she’s like this it will usually be at its most severe when we’re alone. Like sitting on my lap and even straddling me sometimes.

Very strange and confusing. I’ll confess, I’m 28 and I’ve only been with two girls. The last one was four-and-a-half freaking years ago, when I was at university! I’m struggling with this one.

Again, thank you for responding.
 

Mr.Rob

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At least you're admitting what your problem is (the fact you were too nervous to make a move).

But seriously dude if your this wound up about one girl you need to meet new women pronto for your own self esteem and respect for yourself.

It sounds like this girl treats you like garbage.

DONT LET HER TREAT YOU LIKE THIS ANYMORE.

I'd get this girl out of my life pronto if I were you. She clearly doesn't respect you and is fucking your self esteem.

She doesn't give a shit about you and you shouldn't give a shit about her.

Move on Jackson! For you own good.

If you haven't been with a girl for a while who cares it doesn't matter. Start making small steps to change your life to the lifestyle you most desire and don't look back. Thats what this site is for.

The only person holding you back is you.

-Rob
 

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She is, or at least she was very much interested in you. Why all that flirting, for months?

She wanted sex, and she was very mean and frustrated with you because you don't want to. She is using her "boyfriend" to get you pissed, hoping that when you get pissed you will find your balls and show her who is the man. She shows you affection, gives you hugs and kisses because she wants sex. Basically, she is saying: Look, here is this guy, he's not really as good as you but he is ok, good enough. If you don't want sex, I'll do it with him.

She gave you lots of windows, she is all over you, she is still telling you: look, my BF is going away, for months, I really like you a lot, and i want sex. I mean, i'm getting frustrated with you too because you write the same thing over and over, you are quite clear about it, and then you ask what does it mean.

When you flirt, especially when you flirt non-stop for months, you are indirectly saying: look, I am interested in sex. If she flirts back, she is saying: ok, good, lets see what is in you. You then have to step it it up, or it is just weird. You are already grabbing her tits and slapping her ass, she is already on your lap and stroking your "little friend". So why not pushing for sex? Now, that IS weird.

Stop flirting, stop teasing, it doesn't go anywhere. You have to decide what do you want with her. He is not her real BF, she only goes out with him because she is frustrated with you, and when she goes out with him she is thinking about you. If she were to lay in your bed, naked with wide open legs, you wouldn't ask her if she is serious about it or just making fun of you, would you? My impression.

Anyway, have sex with her, push for it, if you have to tell her that you are shy but really want to try it, and let her do it.
 

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btw Jackson, I've been strung along, pushed around, even made fun of publicly by girls that I thought I was into or friends with only to realize they had 0 respect and were essentially tooling me and using me for shit.

That's not necessarily their fault and I could say their evil (and they kind of are) but ultimately it was my responsibility in the first place to make sure I respect myself enough to have others respect me.

I've been were you've been not trying to pick on you.
 

Jackson

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Thank you guys for the replies. I really appreciate it. No worries, Mr.Rob, I welcome different views and opinions on the subject. I just want to make clear, though, that she isn’t a bad person. This I know for a fact. She does seem to genuinely like me and care for me. Unless she is a very good actor (always a possibility). She is actually a really good person and genuinely kind-hearted. She is a tease, but I’m pretty certain she isn’t one of those genuinely evil ones who give no care to the person they’re "tormenting". Sometimes I do actually find myself getting angry with her if she is especially teasing me hard, though. But I never tell her why I get angry, although she surely knows. I might just tell her to put up or shut up. What about her still mentioning to me, very casually sometimes, all these months later about how she (apparently) wanted to sleep with me? That’s the one that confuses me. Why still bring it up? Also, why has the flirting, at least sometimes, gotten especially worse now, after she's been with her bf for months?
 
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At the end of the day, an abundance mentality would get rid of this problem. Whether it works out or not should not have any more significance than either being a pleasant surprise or a little wasted time.
 

Jackson

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I did something quite funny to her yesterday, although I didn’t do it on purpose. I'm not the malicious type. I genuinely had to be somewhere and do some things that I would rather not have mentioned to her or anyone. Basically, I didn’t see her the whole day, maybe for the last twenty minutes before she went home. However, her reaction to me not being around the whole day was quite interesting.

Basically, she seemed very interested in where I was. No one else seemed to be. I got a couple of “Where have you beens” from the other staff members, but that was it. Just the once. From her, though, she was constantly asking me, sometimes with a smile on her face and sometimes with a look of genuine interest, where I had been. Her constant probing carried on well into the night. I didn’t say anything, only that I had people to see. A couple of times she even asked if I’ve met a girl, and I overheard her asking another work colleague whether they think I was with a girl. But yeah, out of everyone there at work she definitely seemed the most interested as to where I was, even stating that she was bored and missed me.

I wonder if her interest was because I basically gave her no attention the whole day by not being there? Again, didn't do it on purpose.
 

Mr.Rob

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Dude Jackson, Make a fucking move or move on from this girl.

You clearly have oneitis and it's fucking your dating life up (making you unhappy by being in scarcity).

I'd ask her over to your house to chill/have dinner or something and then MAKE A MOVE.

If she accepts your advances awesome. If she rejects your advances EVEN BETTER.

You can then move on with your life instead of being in a state of constant "what if".

Fuck "what if" FIND OUT what IS.

Wish you the best mate.
 

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Jackson,

Go to her house one night, at about 1am in the morning. Bring one of those old school cd players (the really big ones)

Place the cd player outside her window, and put on some cheesy romance song. Then pick up a stone (small one, not to big that it will crack the glass), throw the stone her window to get her attention.

Once she wakes up, she will open her window, at this point you will press PLAY on the cd player so that the cheesy (but lovely) music comes on - then you will get down on one knee with a bouquet of flowers, let a few tears flow and reveal all your deepest feelings for her, concluding with 'and so, will you have me?'

Boom, wet panties will commence,

I'ts that easy you big ol pimp, you.
 

Jackson

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Nova said:
Jackson,

Go to her house one night, at about 1am in the morning. Bring one of those old school cd players (the really big ones)

Place the cd player outside her window, and put on some cheesy romance song. Then pick up a stone (small one, not to big that it will crack the glass), throw the stone her window to get her attention.

Once she wakes up, she will open her window, at this point you will press PLAY on the cd player so that the cheesy (but lovely) music comes on - then you will get down on one knee with a bouquet of flowers, let a few tears flow and reveal all your deepest feelings for her, concluding with 'and so, will you have me?'

Boom, wet panties will commence,

I'ts that easy you big ol pimp, you.

Okay. That made me laugh. I think I would rather get evicted to another planet.
 
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