Hi everyone, Longtime no see,
After a long hiatus, I am back in Pick-Up! And I need your guidance!
I need your help on how to properly Set-Up and Run a very specific type of Second Date. Not the second dates that happen at one's house and not the one where you pull her home and lay her at the end of it. I speak about the second dates where you purposefully part ways without laying her or attempting to pull her home. Like in Pure Evil or Chase Compression Dating process.
This is a long post with a lot of background information some of you may or may not need, so I divided it into the smaller sections.
I am surely overthinking a lot of stuff since I took a long break but some guidance will be much appreciated.
Context :
If I got good enough on First Dates where most girls want to see me for a second one. However, I am having a hard time getting a third date if I don't lay the girl on a second date at my place.
I know you may tell me, why bother with these second dates then, and not just go for first date pulls or second dates at my place?
Because even if the best option is to have the girl come over on the second date, it's not always possible. Few reasons for that , the main one being my current logistics, I live in a third-world semi-conservative country where most girls are not comfortable coming to my place on the first two dates (Safety, High ASD) even the most liberal ones, I also live far from the city.
I initially took a little pause from Pick-Up/Dating until I move to a better place/country. But this is going to take more time than planned. So as for now, The Second Dates with No Pulls have to be an essential part of my arsenal If I want a higher conversion rate from the girls I meet.
My Steaking Points :
When I re-started dating these past 2 months, I realized that contrary to the 2 other types of dates, I don't know how to properly run and set in order to advance the courtship process. I was mostly winging them which didn't get me good results.
When going through the various seduction resources here in GC and also Blackdragon System, I usually found two approaches, and I am struggling with both
The first one, my favorite, is where the second date is kind of a repeat of the first date, something like another Cofee/Ice Cream where we Talk/DeepDive and end the date like advised by Blackdragon in his system or @Chase in his articles on Second Dates Strategy, or in Pureevil 3 Dates system.
My main problem with this method is what the conversation should be about. Should I just do another Deep Dive on her again? But how will not feel repetitive? Or should we just have a casual chat and part ways? But if that's the case will it not lose the romantic/sexual vibe built during the first date?
The second option is where the second date is to go do an activity together and it usually involves 2-3 steps. As advised in Chase's classical Compression Dating Article.
My main SP with this method (besides being time-consuming and not easy set up) is that I found that doing an activity together can quickly turn the vibe into a Boyfriend Frame or even worst a Platonic One. So i'am struggling to turn an activity together into a Romantic One.
Thank you
Appendix: How I meet Girls and my First Dates:
Meet Girls: Having a good social network, I usually meet girls through the periphery of my social circle and supplement it online using Colt's original guide, I don't do much of cold approach.
First Dates: My first date is usually a Coffee Date or a variation of the "Help me Run some Erradns", where the girl first comes to do something with me and we then go have our Cofee where I Deep Dive Her, Sex-Talk when possible, Light Kino and end the date with No Kiss. Following the approach advised by Black Dragon and Chase in this article I almost never Pull Girls on first dates.
After a long hiatus, I am back in Pick-Up! And I need your guidance!
I need your help on how to properly Set-Up and Run a very specific type of Second Date. Not the second dates that happen at one's house and not the one where you pull her home and lay her at the end of it. I speak about the second dates where you purposefully part ways without laying her or attempting to pull her home. Like in Pure Evil or Chase Compression Dating process.
This is a long post with a lot of background information some of you may or may not need, so I divided it into the smaller sections.
I am surely overthinking a lot of stuff since I took a long break but some guidance will be much appreciated.
Context :
If I got good enough on First Dates where most girls want to see me for a second one. However, I am having a hard time getting a third date if I don't lay the girl on a second date at my place.
I know you may tell me, why bother with these second dates then, and not just go for first date pulls or second dates at my place?
Because even if the best option is to have the girl come over on the second date, it's not always possible. Few reasons for that , the main one being my current logistics, I live in a third-world semi-conservative country where most girls are not comfortable coming to my place on the first two dates (Safety, High ASD) even the most liberal ones, I also live far from the city.
I initially took a little pause from Pick-Up/Dating until I move to a better place/country. But this is going to take more time than planned. So as for now, The Second Dates with No Pulls have to be an essential part of my arsenal If I want a higher conversion rate from the girls I meet.
My Steaking Points :
When I re-started dating these past 2 months, I realized that contrary to the 2 other types of dates, I don't know how to properly run and set in order to advance the courtship process. I was mostly winging them which didn't get me good results.
When going through the various seduction resources here in GC and also Blackdragon System, I usually found two approaches, and I am struggling with both
The first one, my favorite, is where the second date is kind of a repeat of the first date, something like another Cofee/Ice Cream where we Talk/DeepDive and end the date like advised by Blackdragon in his system or @Chase in his articles on Second Dates Strategy, or in Pureevil 3 Dates system.
My main problem with this method is what the conversation should be about. Should I just do another Deep Dive on her again? But how will not feel repetitive? Or should we just have a casual chat and part ways? But if that's the case will it not lose the romantic/sexual vibe built during the first date?
The second option is where the second date is to go do an activity together and it usually involves 2-3 steps. As advised in Chase's classical Compression Dating Article.
My main SP with this method (besides being time-consuming and not easy set up) is that I found that doing an activity together can quickly turn the vibe into a Boyfriend Frame or even worst a Platonic One. So i'am struggling to turn an activity together into a Romantic One.
Thank you
Appendix: How I meet Girls and my First Dates:
Meet Girls: Having a good social network, I usually meet girls through the periphery of my social circle and supplement it online using Colt's original guide, I don't do much of cold approach.
First Dates: My first date is usually a Coffee Date or a variation of the "Help me Run some Erradns", where the girl first comes to do something with me and we then go have our Cofee where I Deep Dive Her, Sex-Talk when possible, Light Kino and end the date with No Kiss. Following the approach advised by Black Dragon and Chase in this article I almost never Pull Girls on first dates.
