HELP regarding CHASE Framing

[Elitedevil]

So Ive read chases book, really really interesting stuff. Some things I quite dont understand yet, which maybe some of you experienced guys could help me out with:

Chase basicly argues you should let the girls chase you, but at the same time, he is saying that the man almost always has to lead. The problem is, how do you solve this paradox? If you lead/take charge/move things forward, how are you getting her to chase? Isnt that more.. you "chasing/pursuing" her?

Also, another thing Im wondering. Isnt it true to some extent that girls get turned on by a masculine "drive" to get her, the passion he feels when seeing how sexy she is etc, when he makes his moves on her. Ive heard alot of hot women say how they "love when a man takes charge" - Exactly how does this mix with getting HER to chase/pursue you?


Thanks for answers!

 

[HalfGuard]

A chaser is someone who follows behind something or someone a leader is someone who leads, if you are leading the women is chasing the moment you let the women lead you you became the chaser and at this point you've basically lost the game.
You should lead because you are a strong man that knows what he wants and lead women toward it which in this case is sleeping with them , if you are lead by women you seem weak because in attempting to get what you want you will do thing to help the women with what they want and they will never give you what you want so you keep giving them whatever they want.
Chasing is , buying things or her , doing favors to them , doing whatever she tells you to do so
By leading you tell her to do things for you so you are making her chase you and maybe you will give her what she wants after you get what you want
-Hg

 

[Elitedevil]

Thx for the reply, makes sense. But IM still unsure how it really works out in practise.

WHen I approach a woman, its like I instantly become the pursuer, (cause Im approahing HER), making her the prize hence she is not chasing me ..

 

[Franco]

Welcome to the boards, Elite!

I would start by checking out this short thread here as it is relevant to this topic.

When you pursue a girl quickly, aggressively, and in a very suave fashion, she'll take notice of whether or not you're the type of man she wants in her life. So once you get her to notice this, and then she doesn't give you what YOU want, resulting in you not contacting her and becoming aloof, she gets worried that maybe she's playing "too hard to get" and suddenly begins to chase you so that she doesn't lose you. This is why it's critical to improve yourself to the point where she realizes you are worth chasing in the first place.

So the idea is to lead in a way that shows that you are a charming, sexy man, but also to not overstep your boundaries and let her realize that she needs to make her move on you quickly, or she could easily lose you to another women of equal or higher value.

I hope this makes sense.

- Franco

 

[Elitedevil]

Alright Franco, so basicly theres an approach of: "This is me, this is who I am, here Im giving you a chanse and if you dont realise that, too bad for you!" ?

Would it be a good basic structure of:

1. Approach hard/aggressive/bold, stating your intentions and then
2. Lean back, get her to realise she gotta invest in the situation else ull be gone?

 

[Elitedevil]

Actually, that link made alot of sense!

So its like, "how would I act if I REALLY had 20 women at home wanting me??" - I would probably act very bold, being straight forward, no bullshit, going for what I want without apoligy showing them who I and and what IM about and if they dont want nothing of it - Too bad, NEXT.

And its this particular kind of attitude that ironicly makes you much more attractive.


Am I correct?


WIth that said, how exactly in a practical way does including chase-frames fit in here?

Is it like:

1. Approach aggressively/bold, state your intention
2. Lean back, start putting up chase frames where u are the prize and she is trying to get you?

 

[Franco]

ED,

So its like, "how would I act if I REALLY had 20 women at home wanting me??" - I would probably act very bold, being straight forward, no bullshit, going for what I want without apoligy showing them who I and and what IM about and if they dont want nothing of it - Too bad, NEXT.

And its this particular kind of attitude that ironicly makes you much more attractive.

Am I correct?

Exactly.

1. Approach aggressively/bold, state your intention

To a certain degree, yes. However, "stating" your intention should be suave and charming, such as a direct opener complimenting her sense of style. After that, your body language, vibe, and tone of voice should be a key indicator to her of what it is you want. Stating that you want sex verbally is a social faux pas, and there are articles that can be found on this website to help you discover what you should be talking to her about instead.

2. Lean back, start putting up chase frames where u are the prize and she is trying to get you?

I wouldn't say lean back, but don't beat around the bush and don't over-commit.

So if you get her number, don't try to impress her over text. Ask her out for a date as soon as possible and use texting as a means of logistics. Then once you are together with her again, you need to push toward sexual intimacy to let her know that you mean business. If she falls back a bit, then you need to do the same because, as you said, a man with 20 other girls chasing him will pull out his phone and text the next gorgeous girl for a date and not waste time with one who won't take what he has to offer.

If you are capable of imagining what a man with abundance would do, then eventually you will have abundance yourself, and you won't have to imagine!

- Franco

 

[Elitedevil]

Thanks! Really clearing up alot of things for me that previously were mad confusing.

Anyway, Chase talks alot about using chase-frames in his book, exactly where would you say they fit in all this?

 

[Franco]

These should get you started in the right direction:

Secrets to Getting Girls: Chase Framing

Sexual Framing: More On Using This to Get Girls

"I am the Prize": How to REALLY Get This Mindset with Women

- Franco

 

[SteveUno]

Franco,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the general approach that is the core of how to get women on this site, basically gets you a lot of women but not just about every woman?
There are woman who just may be wasting your time?
If there's a girl a guy can't get, he should just move on because she may not know what she wants?