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Haha hey what's up guys.
This one was really entertaining and a whirlwind and just altogether a funny fucking experience and story (and first experience of the kind I've had) so I wanted to share about it.
Some Context
I’m living back at the university village and was lucky to get in last minute to it.
So I haven’t slept with a new girl in a couple months; school began late last week and I’ve been in for like 5 days.
Potential for seduction at the moment is quite great, because I picked my schedule carefully for school and work so that I would have free blocks where I could go actively pick up. On top of this my game is a little better my looks are better a bit from what I've been told and I've put on a little more muscle. There are more girls into me than have been in the past.
Also school is more populated than ever before. Just really ripe for picking up girls.
Considering all this I’ve been looking forward to the school year, and I'm coming out now from a summer with little chicks, to a school year with a lot of them and the perfect logistics to pull them to.
Progress Since School Started
I’ve gotten 4 numbers since school started last week and that was only going out and approaching on 2 separate days.
I’m still reevaluating my goals and how I will go about them in process and stuff with seduction (for this school quarter) but something that I had begun to do a bit and will kind of stick to perhaps is aim to meet 1-3 new girls every day and not any more than that.
1-3 girls is a reasonable amount for me where I can focus on other shit and girls; and then on top of that I am also making the goal to be meeting these girls like in my day to day, like when I see them in shit (in the process of walking to class or getting food or meeting up with a friend or whatever). I found that when I go out solely for the purpose of meeting girls in daygame I don’t come across the best approaches or interactions at least in comparison to when I’ve just been aggressive and gone for the approaches I see like right when they come across me in day to day.
I’ve been up to this shit yeah. Oh and one of the girls I fucked and one of the ones I messed up at with lmr last year have been asking my friend about me too, maybe I’ll bang them again if I feel up to it… haha
High IQ Girl (Background and Approach)
So my school has like some thousands of people but within that you can kind of run into the same people over and over again because the campus isn’t enormous and there’s just like potential for that yea. I think I cold approached this girl a year or more ago, and have seen her off handedly like in passing once or twice and we have just seen hi to each other then.
I saw her freshman year when I started working out and she was very serious into working out. She has a nice body fairly large tits I think Ds possibly, and a nice ass (an ass that’s much bigger than mine… its fucking sad but I have an ass bigger than most girls I've fucked or tried to date lol).
I'm in the 4th floor of the library using the computer then I head back toward the elevator and I see a friend of mine. I talk with him for a little bit and I see this girl out of the corner of my eye pass and go towards the elevator. I quickly tell my friend bye and run to catch up the girl, wait behind her and then get into the elevator with her. In the elevator motion towards the girl, get her name and then we talk.
I talk briefly with her she mentions she’s a psychology major, and I mention that I’ve been trying to switch majors from engineering to psychology and have been sort of stressed trying to figure that out as it s a lot of hoops to jump through. She tells me I can get her number and maybe meet with her sometime and she’ll help me out with it and we can talk a lot more about it.
She’s warm and a bit attracted through all of this. Cool I tell her; I get her number walk outside with her and she gets picked up to go home. I walk some distance for like 20 seconds and then look back towards her car like really far away and she sees me and was looking at me and waves at me first, and then I wave back.
A Week of Waiting Leading Up to Meet
I have to wait like a week to meet with this girl. It occurs to me that I was meeting with her under the pretense of like studying or doing work together and not a date so that might be bad, or miscommunicated (or ill have to sprinkle in some sexuality and or intent within that when I see her next).
I feel like I connected kind of well with her just in that brief moment and also that she is an ambitious girl and the first girl I’ve ever went on a date with or tried to pursue further with who trains reallyy hard at the gym like I do. I might like that; might not. I approach other girls throughout the week but cant help but think about this girl a bit time and again.
Also she is really warm over text. Sends smileys and shit; that doesn’t mean much but means she won’t flake at the very least.
I feel kind of stupid and nervous thinking of this girl leading up to the meet with her. But I show up and play it by ear. And what happens next?
The “Date”
I text her she wants to meet in the library. I think oh shit she actually did probably want to study or show me shit, I definitely could have worked better to have some intent or at least a compliment something direct when I had first met and interacted with her.
I guess quickly from talking to her and meeting with her, that she is fiercely ambitious and opinionated and high testosterone. But I haven’t met a girl this much like that before. She tells me that she wants to get her doctorate become a social psychologist she asks me other questions about my self and I talk a little bit.
I meet with her but then offer to get food first.
I guess correctly that she keeps busy as fuck with her schedule too and she has a two hour gap before she goes to volunteer, and outside that she has like 18 units of class and volunteering and work and lifts like 4 days a week. She’s meeting with me literally in the only time she has free besides some small stretches of weekend.
We walk towards food but then I’m not hungry and know she only has like some time so I take her to a secluded place by some trees on a bench near the outer reaches of campus.
Where I Fuck Up Massively and Lessons Learned
This girl talks about her views and opinion and ambitions and what she believes and what she wants to say and do and stuff. And she sounds like me in a lot of ways. Or holds the same views on many things at least.
She talks about how social media is shit, and people don’t stand up for themselves and how people don’t have ambition or drive or know what they want to do or shit.
Not a good quality to have in a girlfriend (in my opinion, for myself… if I ever consider a girl for that) because a girl should be more positive than you more conservative minded about these things and generally while career oriented, be less completely hardcore dominating career oriented than you.
This was the first girl I met like this; I recall Chase saying girls like this are great for sexual relationships and you will have some of the best sex with them… but shit for relationships, because she’s not a complimentary opposite and is instead more like a girl you (high testosterone high ambition high drive and wants to do big things; this girl really wants to change the fucking world and tells me a lot about that).
Now this would have been all well and good if she just talked about her self and I listened and related and deep dove further. But I got caught up in talking about myself a LOT more than you ever fucking should. I broke a lot of rules with her and told her about personal details of like amibtiion career writing a book wanting to start a business; she revealed a lot more than me, but I gave her too much in too little time and too excitedly and erratically causing her to put me in to a friend zone or a boyfriend zone (it was a friend zone with this one).
I got her talking and she told me about how she was a reformed party girl had almost died and done some serious hardcore fucking shit with partying and quit in her late teens, and was trying to turn her life around now though her past still kind of haunted her and that she feels she will suffer for it in later years.
I told her too much, related too much, she got me talking in an odd way and telling many things about myself. I told her things that I don’t to girls and never would to girls; also talked to her about like politics and hierarchy of needs and psychology and all these fucking masculine topics that I shouldn’t and wouldn’t be talking with any girl about. It was pretty freaking bad but I had a laugh about it much later on.
We got done talking and agreed to meet some time again; but after talking to her I couldn’t help but feel turned off and it was quite odd.
I think the feeling was mutual likely because she didn’t seem attracted by the end of it to me. I revealed too much to her and was not the sexy muscle bound dickhead any more. I was smart and shit and that was unattractive in terms of how I acted and revealed and all that (how I did it and how quickly I did it).
We agreed to meet but she said she’d maybe only have like 30min to an hour and I told her its cool maybe another time and thanks a lot for her help and sent this sort of friend zone kind of text to her lol.
Final Reflections
What was it that fucked me up most with this girl?
Part of it was treating her differently that any other girl and tweaking my process with her making it different than I would with a standard girl. You calibrate to different girls sure, but you should also stick to the rudiments and that core outline process of meet, move, talk some more, gauge interest, escalate, or pull escalate etc.
The girl being different and high IQ and a fire cracker like that threw me off track maybe … but it might be because I’m out of practice and slowly getting my stripes back at pickup in general; I’m not sure.
I talked to this girl, got done, talked to my friend on the phone who also does pickup and told him about my interaction and what he thought: and it was him who told me “dude its just what I did with that chick 3 months ago that you told me I did wrong! You revealed way too much about yourself your career ambition past hobbies self etc. and that does you no benefit in any way and you totally fucked yourself doing that”.
Fuck, it blew my mind when my friend told me that (and its funny how you can always see it so well in someone else’s situation but when it’s your own you need and it really helps if someone tells you or reveals to you and opens your eyes to what you are doing). That observer/outside perspective of a qualified individual is invaluable.
Its scary but part of me had initially (with this girl and in general) been thinking if I get the right type of girl that is ambitious and high sex drive enough and checks my boxes then I will potentially eventually later in the quarter be open to settling with her for a bit and getting into a relationship.
I cringe at that thought though; and say no to that right now. I intend to set some hard rules about the coming quarter and future of the school year and hard rules about not settling into a relationship at all either for quarter or for year, and how many girls I must approach in a week and what daily goals and objectives will be and how many girls target I want to sleep within the quarter and what my numbers regarding law of averages will be relating to that (i.e.. how many girls I will have to pull home to get x number of lays in a quarter, and how many might say no or I will succeed with and factoring in all that shit and any other variables in too).
I took a nap after this experience with this girl and then woke up an hour later fully rejuvenated and back with my head on straight and thought “haha shit why did I even like this girl, she wasn’t actually that amazing looking face wise or body wise either. And off in many ways in her personality too… And I had slept with hotter girls than her”.
There is a whole fucking ocean out there and I’m still in the kiddie pool pulling the occasional guppie out of the water.
I have a long fucking way to go man. Am subscribed to this journey though and intend to rage to really master this in the coming future.
What do you guys think of this one? Any critiques or observations? Thanks,
-Rage
This one was really entertaining and a whirlwind and just altogether a funny fucking experience and story (and first experience of the kind I've had) so I wanted to share about it.
Some Context
I’m living back at the university village and was lucky to get in last minute to it.
So I haven’t slept with a new girl in a couple months; school began late last week and I’ve been in for like 5 days.
Potential for seduction at the moment is quite great, because I picked my schedule carefully for school and work so that I would have free blocks where I could go actively pick up. On top of this my game is a little better my looks are better a bit from what I've been told and I've put on a little more muscle. There are more girls into me than have been in the past.
Also school is more populated than ever before. Just really ripe for picking up girls.
Considering all this I’ve been looking forward to the school year, and I'm coming out now from a summer with little chicks, to a school year with a lot of them and the perfect logistics to pull them to.
Progress Since School Started
I’ve gotten 4 numbers since school started last week and that was only going out and approaching on 2 separate days.
I’m still reevaluating my goals and how I will go about them in process and stuff with seduction (for this school quarter) but something that I had begun to do a bit and will kind of stick to perhaps is aim to meet 1-3 new girls every day and not any more than that.
1-3 girls is a reasonable amount for me where I can focus on other shit and girls; and then on top of that I am also making the goal to be meeting these girls like in my day to day, like when I see them in shit (in the process of walking to class or getting food or meeting up with a friend or whatever). I found that when I go out solely for the purpose of meeting girls in daygame I don’t come across the best approaches or interactions at least in comparison to when I’ve just been aggressive and gone for the approaches I see like right when they come across me in day to day.
I’ve been up to this shit yeah. Oh and one of the girls I fucked and one of the ones I messed up at with lmr last year have been asking my friend about me too, maybe I’ll bang them again if I feel up to it… haha
High IQ Girl (Background and Approach)
So my school has like some thousands of people but within that you can kind of run into the same people over and over again because the campus isn’t enormous and there’s just like potential for that yea. I think I cold approached this girl a year or more ago, and have seen her off handedly like in passing once or twice and we have just seen hi to each other then.
I saw her freshman year when I started working out and she was very serious into working out. She has a nice body fairly large tits I think Ds possibly, and a nice ass (an ass that’s much bigger than mine… its fucking sad but I have an ass bigger than most girls I've fucked or tried to date lol).
I'm in the 4th floor of the library using the computer then I head back toward the elevator and I see a friend of mine. I talk with him for a little bit and I see this girl out of the corner of my eye pass and go towards the elevator. I quickly tell my friend bye and run to catch up the girl, wait behind her and then get into the elevator with her. In the elevator motion towards the girl, get her name and then we talk.
I talk briefly with her she mentions she’s a psychology major, and I mention that I’ve been trying to switch majors from engineering to psychology and have been sort of stressed trying to figure that out as it s a lot of hoops to jump through. She tells me I can get her number and maybe meet with her sometime and she’ll help me out with it and we can talk a lot more about it.
She’s warm and a bit attracted through all of this. Cool I tell her; I get her number walk outside with her and she gets picked up to go home. I walk some distance for like 20 seconds and then look back towards her car like really far away and she sees me and was looking at me and waves at me first, and then I wave back.
A Week of Waiting Leading Up to Meet
I have to wait like a week to meet with this girl. It occurs to me that I was meeting with her under the pretense of like studying or doing work together and not a date so that might be bad, or miscommunicated (or ill have to sprinkle in some sexuality and or intent within that when I see her next).
I feel like I connected kind of well with her just in that brief moment and also that she is an ambitious girl and the first girl I’ve ever went on a date with or tried to pursue further with who trains reallyy hard at the gym like I do. I might like that; might not. I approach other girls throughout the week but cant help but think about this girl a bit time and again.
Also she is really warm over text. Sends smileys and shit; that doesn’t mean much but means she won’t flake at the very least.
I feel kind of stupid and nervous thinking of this girl leading up to the meet with her. But I show up and play it by ear. And what happens next?
The “Date”
I text her she wants to meet in the library. I think oh shit she actually did probably want to study or show me shit, I definitely could have worked better to have some intent or at least a compliment something direct when I had first met and interacted with her.
I guess quickly from talking to her and meeting with her, that she is fiercely ambitious and opinionated and high testosterone. But I haven’t met a girl this much like that before. She tells me that she wants to get her doctorate become a social psychologist she asks me other questions about my self and I talk a little bit.
I meet with her but then offer to get food first.
I guess correctly that she keeps busy as fuck with her schedule too and she has a two hour gap before she goes to volunteer, and outside that she has like 18 units of class and volunteering and work and lifts like 4 days a week. She’s meeting with me literally in the only time she has free besides some small stretches of weekend.
We walk towards food but then I’m not hungry and know she only has like some time so I take her to a secluded place by some trees on a bench near the outer reaches of campus.
Where I Fuck Up Massively and Lessons Learned
This girl talks about her views and opinion and ambitions and what she believes and what she wants to say and do and stuff. And she sounds like me in a lot of ways. Or holds the same views on many things at least.
She talks about how social media is shit, and people don’t stand up for themselves and how people don’t have ambition or drive or know what they want to do or shit.
Not a good quality to have in a girlfriend (in my opinion, for myself… if I ever consider a girl for that) because a girl should be more positive than you more conservative minded about these things and generally while career oriented, be less completely hardcore dominating career oriented than you.
This was the first girl I met like this; I recall Chase saying girls like this are great for sexual relationships and you will have some of the best sex with them… but shit for relationships, because she’s not a complimentary opposite and is instead more like a girl you (high testosterone high ambition high drive and wants to do big things; this girl really wants to change the fucking world and tells me a lot about that).
Now this would have been all well and good if she just talked about her self and I listened and related and deep dove further. But I got caught up in talking about myself a LOT more than you ever fucking should. I broke a lot of rules with her and told her about personal details of like amibtiion career writing a book wanting to start a business; she revealed a lot more than me, but I gave her too much in too little time and too excitedly and erratically causing her to put me in to a friend zone or a boyfriend zone (it was a friend zone with this one).
I got her talking and she told me about how she was a reformed party girl had almost died and done some serious hardcore fucking shit with partying and quit in her late teens, and was trying to turn her life around now though her past still kind of haunted her and that she feels she will suffer for it in later years.
I told her too much, related too much, she got me talking in an odd way and telling many things about myself. I told her things that I don’t to girls and never would to girls; also talked to her about like politics and hierarchy of needs and psychology and all these fucking masculine topics that I shouldn’t and wouldn’t be talking with any girl about. It was pretty freaking bad but I had a laugh about it much later on.
We got done talking and agreed to meet some time again; but after talking to her I couldn’t help but feel turned off and it was quite odd.
I think the feeling was mutual likely because she didn’t seem attracted by the end of it to me. I revealed too much to her and was not the sexy muscle bound dickhead any more. I was smart and shit and that was unattractive in terms of how I acted and revealed and all that (how I did it and how quickly I did it).
We agreed to meet but she said she’d maybe only have like 30min to an hour and I told her its cool maybe another time and thanks a lot for her help and sent this sort of friend zone kind of text to her lol.
Final Reflections
What was it that fucked me up most with this girl?
Part of it was treating her differently that any other girl and tweaking my process with her making it different than I would with a standard girl. You calibrate to different girls sure, but you should also stick to the rudiments and that core outline process of meet, move, talk some more, gauge interest, escalate, or pull escalate etc.
The girl being different and high IQ and a fire cracker like that threw me off track maybe … but it might be because I’m out of practice and slowly getting my stripes back at pickup in general; I’m not sure.
I talked to this girl, got done, talked to my friend on the phone who also does pickup and told him about my interaction and what he thought: and it was him who told me “dude its just what I did with that chick 3 months ago that you told me I did wrong! You revealed way too much about yourself your career ambition past hobbies self etc. and that does you no benefit in any way and you totally fucked yourself doing that”.
Fuck, it blew my mind when my friend told me that (and its funny how you can always see it so well in someone else’s situation but when it’s your own you need and it really helps if someone tells you or reveals to you and opens your eyes to what you are doing). That observer/outside perspective of a qualified individual is invaluable.
Its scary but part of me had initially (with this girl and in general) been thinking if I get the right type of girl that is ambitious and high sex drive enough and checks my boxes then I will potentially eventually later in the quarter be open to settling with her for a bit and getting into a relationship.
I cringe at that thought though; and say no to that right now. I intend to set some hard rules about the coming quarter and future of the school year and hard rules about not settling into a relationship at all either for quarter or for year, and how many girls I must approach in a week and what daily goals and objectives will be and how many girls target I want to sleep within the quarter and what my numbers regarding law of averages will be relating to that (i.e.. how many girls I will have to pull home to get x number of lays in a quarter, and how many might say no or I will succeed with and factoring in all that shit and any other variables in too).
I took a nap after this experience with this girl and then woke up an hour later fully rejuvenated and back with my head on straight and thought “haha shit why did I even like this girl, she wasn’t actually that amazing looking face wise or body wise either. And off in many ways in her personality too… And I had slept with hotter girls than her”.
There is a whole fucking ocean out there and I’m still in the kiddie pool pulling the occasional guppie out of the water.
I have a long fucking way to go man. Am subscribed to this journey though and intend to rage to really master this in the coming future.
What do you guys think of this one? Any critiques or observations? Thanks,
-Rage
