Socializing Higher Level Guys: What's Your Rejection Rate at Bars/Clubs?

[Bboy100]

What i mean to say is- when you first approach a girls, what percentage of the time do they genuinely reject you (i.e. deem you too low value/creepy/undesirable)?This is not counting girls who are doing it just to save their reputation. I mean girls who genuinely actually think you're weird/creepy?

I'm only asking this so I have a better sense of what's realistic and what to expect/what I should be striving for.

Also, on a separate but related note, why is there such a huge discrepancy between the receptions I get at bars/clubs vs house parties? Cause at house parties a lot of girls will
-Open me
-smile/giggle when I walk by
-instantly be attracted to me
-Seem much more open to chatting/interacting with me in general.

Whereas at the bars, I got mostly rejections and just straight up being ignored.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

I'm not higher level, but my experience in this is house parties are half social circle/half cold approach, if you even know the basics of game you can easily destroy at a house party (like my new years scenario). Girls are more drunk/more open and don't have their shields up (probably because there's a basic assumption that somehow you all know the same people), maybe you just gotta be more direct at bars?

At bars when I've been more successful I've had to be a lot more confident/direct then at house parties.

 

[Bboy100]

house parties are half social circle/half cold approach, if you even know the basics of game you can easily destroy at a house party (like my new years scenario).

Yes. This is true. I kinda figured this out on my own a while back haha.

At bars when I've been more successful I've had to be a lot more confident/direct then at house parties.

Yeah. To be brutally honest, I'm still not too experienced with nightlife. Mainly because the nightlife here in Bham is pretty much shit for meeting girls. I mostly stick to house parties which are a lot better for pickup anyways. So I'm definitely excited to hang out with you when I get home. Hopefully, I'll learn a thing or two by going out with you

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

I'd say I have experience up in the Bham nightlife but I don't haha, when I used to visit my friends up there to party, we were underage so it was strictly house parties. I actually found Bham girls more... open to sex/one night stands and hookups, though this could have just been because I was going out with the mindset to get laid (visiting town, proving a point to my mates up there etc.)

Gotta find a way to transfer that mindset haha, I'm def excited to go out with you too BBoy, I do have some other friends that do pickup but they're either RSD or natural finesse types who don't even honestly do that well (ridiculous amounts of annoying persistence seems to eventually work in their favor), it'll be nice to go with someone who studies girlschase stuff specifically like me!

 

[Bboy100]

I actually found Bham girls more... open to sex/one night stands and hookups

They are. It has to do with the sexual marketplace up here. WWU is 57% female and 43% male. Whereas Seattle has considerably more guys than girls. This creates a notable change in sexual behavior. But at it's core, it's simple supply and demand. Check this podcast out if you're interested in the topic: http://thematinggrounds.com/mating-mark ... ith-women/

It's not really practical unless you're willing to move to a different location for the sake of picking up women, but it's still a very interesting idea. I know Chase had an article on it somewhere as well. I just can't seem to find it.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

I'm def gonna listen to that when I'm at the gym later, I didn't know the stats for Western, that's fucking cool though.

Haha def might be an interesting factor on whether I choose to go to Western or UW next year. Although I think another article was training in high level competition environments and then just utterly destroying the competition everywhere else!

I feel like Seattle with it's female to male ratio plus the Seattle freeze is one of those environments and I'm hoping if I end up going to New York or something for law school later I'll utterly destroy because of how much my game improved here.