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Pictures and text exchange:
So this took about 2 weeks to set up as we were both busy, so that's why the text exchange is a bit long. Here's the breakdown:
So she "likes" one of my photos, so I open. (ALSO, please note I am still trying to tweak this opener into something that works, so feedback on it is welcome. They almost always respond with "What's that?" as they can't help but be curious, but it's the transition that is what I'm finding most difficult. So yes, feedback/tweaks are welcome!)
The last part here is where I like to ask a question, seeing as she's asked me 2 so far, and I don't want the interaction to dry up.
Perfect, she's playing along and has described me, and hooked onto the wild side bit.
So here I want to transition into rapport building, but also seed the date. I ask "What are you up to" because I know she'll respond with xyz, and then most likely will also ask me what I'm up to, in which case I can seed the date, as you see below. She also gives me something in where I can take things slightly sexual, so I pounce on that.
So she didn't quite bite on the serialization here, so the right call here is to just maintain, don't push forward. Also set a frame that "she wants me" in the next line.
She invests quite a bit here which is a good sign, so I give a bit more. Although my answer is a bit long here as I subtly DHV myself:
The one thing I want to point out here is my last line. What this does is it makes her feel a bit more, as you give her reasons why you're into something (and definitely a point in my game where I need more work on). Most guys stick to too many facts. So I've been trying to inject more emotion into my texts where I can.
Haha so here I was aiming for something more like "girls with a nice booty etc" but didn't pan out. So I decide to flirtatiously agree and just move forward with the convo.
She's invested, I've seeded the date a few times, she's receptive, so I go for the soft close and then the #. Also, I forgot she already told me she liked wine, but I ask anyway lol. Also, the typo of "you're" was an accident, I think it just autocorrected to that.
So at this point we've been talking for about 2 days, and now we transition to texting. It's drawn out here because I had already packed my week, and was just busy overall. I open with a standard text that always works (not my own creation).
So the "sculpting the booty" line I love, and use it whenever a girl tells me she's at the gym. It's so good, as it sexualizes, brings up the date again, and sets a chase from that she's sculpting her ass for me. She doesn't quite bite but it's still fun. I also decide to set a hard close here.
So because I was busy the next week I need to acknowledge that yes I'm busy, but still want to see you. Hence the "hope that's cool" part in my one text. She 100% has to say "yes no problem etc" or she looks like an asshole, which no girl wants to do. My next texts create intrigue (with me going somewhere), and I also reward her for being flexible, which puts me in a position of "power/high status" as I'm doing the rewarding.
NOTE: I shouldn't have asked how her weekend was, and instead let this convo die for a bit. Oh well.
The massage line I use whenever a girl tells me she is super busy/stressed etc. Always gets a good response.
So again I try to sexualize but she doesn't bite, so I just maintain and brush things off.
I use this whhenever a girl asks me what I'm reading. It works well in a few ways, as she'll always tell you hers (which you can then use that info on the date to your advantage), and I think it DHVs, as a lot of guys don't read, and don't read books on love languages. I also use a bit of self depreciation here which I think is funny.
One thing I don't want to do here is immediately give her the answer. This is a great time to tease a bit and build investment by getting her to invest. You could make her guess or go with something like "say please" to get more investment.
Hell yes I have witty banter covered, thanks baby.
So now that I know this, I know I can get a bit more handsy on our date (calibrate of course). Here I try sexualizing, again, but again, she doesn't bite lol. But notice how it's always subtle, just revving the engine slightly, not putting the foot to the floor.
So again she doesn't bite. The correct move is to just keep moving forward, don't try continuing to sexualize/escalate if she's not ready.
I always go with the "not the douchey kind" when being vegan comes up. As some girls aren't into that. Usually gets a laugh as well.
So here I actually qualify myself, but then instantly spin things back around so she has to qualify.
Her I let the convo die, as I didn't want to overinvest. I was going to text her after the weekend, but she ended up texting me on Monday anyway (which is a good sign of investment). but god damn girls have 0 game lol.
Aww, she's sweet for asking this. +10 points in my book
I let things die here as well, and then once I had my schedule I texted her Thursday to make plans the next week. So keep in mind it's been over a week of text so far.
Later that night I got my schedule so I texted her. Notice how even though she said her schedule is pretty open I still give her a couple days to choose from, not just one.
I don't text her all weekend, so Monday I shoot a text just to keep things warm and confirm our plans for Tuesday.
I wanted the convo to end here, but she continues it. I don't want to get mired into endless convo so I just answer, but don't ask any questions back.
Day of the date, I send my standard pre date text in the morning.
Later...
The Date
Not going into crazy detail here but some highlights were:
Good, deep conversation with lots of deep diving. I used the fact that her love language is physical touch to be a bit heavier with the touching, which she later told me she loved. Some whispering into her ear, her telling me I'm sexy, me saying I'm having a good time, lots of banter. Overall I had a really strong, sexy, masculine frame the whole night, lots of intense eye contact, and very relaxed. Made out a bit at the bar, with me ending the kiss. Normal successful date stuff. As for the pull, I originally tried something like "we should go listen to music at your place after this" to which she was on the fence about, but it wasn't a solid no, so I backtracked a bit and instead offered to just drive her home. she took an EVO here so I offered to drive her back. We left, we get to her place, I get a small amount of ASD about coming in, but I say something like "It's fine if you don't want me coming in, not a big deal, but I'm having a great time, and I know we're going to see each other again regardless of what happens, so why don't we spend a little more time together now while I'm her with you, because I'm having fun, and I think you are too." Then she just smiled, we make out some more, and she invites me inside.
After that it was clothes off, straight to the bedroom, sucking fucking, and multiple squirting sessions for her. Now for the juicy after sex talk, where I found out that:
1. She's never squirted so many times in one night before
2. Most guys are terrible in bed, but also think they are amazing
3. She fantasized about me before our date
4. When I asked her when she decided she wanted to fuck me, she said "about 20 minutes into our date." Lol god damnit woman, why the hesitation about inviting me home then?
Just goes to show that even if a girl wants to fuck you, sometimes her logical mind won't let her.
5. She's not into ONS, but long term shit scares her too. She says it's just hard finding someone who wants that middle ground with the potential for more.
6. A lot of her girlfriends only go on one date with a guy and that's it, and then they move onto the next.....Damn, that's the harsh reality these days I guess. Really pushes home the point that you need to at least try closing that first date, or else your chances are slim. Not 0, but slim. Sometimes it just needs to be 2 dates.
Then the post date text:
Hope you enjoyed and can take some insights away from this.
So this took about 2 weeks to set up as we were both busy, so that's why the text exchange is a bit long. Here's the breakdown:
So she "likes" one of my photos, so I open. (ALSO, please note I am still trying to tweak this opener into something that works, so feedback on it is welcome. They almost always respond with "What's that?" as they can't help but be curious, but it's the transition that is what I'm finding most difficult. So yes, feedback/tweaks are welcome!)
The last part here is where I like to ask a question, seeing as she's asked me 2 so far, and I don't want the interaction to dry up.
Her: Tall, handsome, likes to travel....
Her: You figure I have a wild side?
Perfect, she's playing along and has described me, and hooked onto the wild side bit.
Me: Sounds like someone I know...
Me: I'm hoping you do, at least a little bit...
Hey: Guilty (upside down smiley emoji)
Me: Just my type then
Me: What are you up to?
So here I want to transition into rapport building, but also seed the date. I ask "What are you up to" because I know she'll respond with xyz, and then most likely will also ask me what I'm up to, in which case I can seed the date, as you see below. She also gives me something in where I can take things slightly sexual, so I pounce on that.
So she didn't quite bite on the serialization here, so the right call here is to just maintain, don't push forward. Also set a frame that "she wants me" in the next line.
Me: I'm sure you'd like that
Me: I'm not one to waste time, especially when a cute Nicole is involved
Her: Haha (blowing kiss emoji)
Me: Don't tease me with the (blowing kiss emoji) making me blush over here
Her: Seems like you enjoy a bit of teasing (smirk emoji)
Her: I think you'll be fine
Me: I actually prefer to do the teasing (smirk emoji)
Me: Tell me a bit more about you first. Kids? Tats? Crazy ex's I should know about?
Her: No kids. One day, hopefully! No tats. Haha no "crazy" ex's....
Her: I have a job I really like. Probably work too much. I go to barre at least 3 times a week, like cooking, like wine, like traveling...what about you?
She invests quite a bit here which is a good sign, so I give a bit more. Although my answer is a bit long here as I subtly DHV myself:
Me: That's cool, sounds like you're pretty ambitious. What do you love most about what you do? And what's Barre?
Me: No tats, no crazy ex's. And I won't let the 8 kids get in the way of our love
Me: Ha, besides those 3 that you mentioned....reading, working on my side hustle/business, keeping fit and active
Her: I actually love that it's challenging. I work with a ton of great but very different people with different ideas, expectations, objectives...I'm in marketing so there's always lots going on
Her: Barre is a workout class...kind of like Pilates, but has some dance-style stuff included
Her: Awesome! Tell me about the side hustle!
Me: Pilates hey?...guess you have one more of my weaknesses
Me: The side hustle is starting my own trading company, and eventually want to run my own hedge fund
Me: That sort of thing fascinates me, especially the psych behind it all
The one thing I want to point out here is my last line. What this does is it makes her feel a bit more, as you give her reasons why you're into something (and definitely a point in my game where I need more work on). Most guys stick to too many facts. So I've been trying to inject more emotion into my texts where I can.
Haha so here I was aiming for something more like "girls with a nice booty etc" but didn't pan out. So I decide to flirtatiously agree and just move forward with the convo.
Me: Definitely
Me: Sounds like it indeed. I'm sure we'll have lots to talk about when we get together.
Me: (And flirt too much in person obviously)
Her: Haha sounds like it!
She's invested, I've seeded the date a few times, she's receptive, so I go for the soft close and then the #. Also, I forgot she already told me she liked wine, but I ask anyway lol. Also, the typo of "you're" was an accident, I think it just autocorrected to that.
Me: Do you like wine?
Her: Probably too much (upside down smiley emoji)
Me: We should split a bottle sometime
Her: That would be nice (smiley blushing emoji)
Me: red or white? (Just tell me it's not Moscato...)
Her: Red for sure
Her: Moscato? Come on....I'm not 15
Me:
Me: Perfect, shoot me you're # and we'll plan our wine date
Her: XXX-XXX-XXXX
So at this point we've been talking for about 2 days, and now we transition to texting. It's drawn out here because I had already packed my week, and was just busy overall. I open with a standard text that always works (not my own creation).
Me: Hey XXX, it's JocobPalmer, from the thing
Her: Haha hi! How are you?
Me: I'm good, just running some errands. What fun things are you up to?
Her: Went to work out this morning and now have a thrilling afternoon of laundry ahead!
Me: Ahh, sculpting the booty for our date I see
Me: Haha, hey don't tease me with such exciting activities
So the "sculpting the booty" line I love, and use it whenever a girl tells me she's at the gym. It's so good, as it sexualizes, brings up the date again, and sets a chase from that she's sculpting her ass for me. She doesn't quite bite but it's still fun. I also decide to set a hard close here.
Her: Hahah well I came home looking like this (3 X panting emojis??) was not sexy
Me: So modest
Me: What's your schedule usually like during the week
Her: Mmm should actually be quite low key now that I made it through the last week. I am taking Friday's off from now until after Christmas. Finally getting some time off (smiley blush emoji) I do have a couple of Christmas parties and am busy Sunday nights, but outside of that, pretty open! What about you?
Me: Ok, we can make something work with that. Usually free after 4 during the week, sometimes days on the weekend. Haha my Christmas party is next Friday actually
Me: But, this upcoming week is a bit crazy so might have to wait a little buit before we get together, hope that's cool
Her: Well, it is Christmas party season! My girlfriend is taking me to hers in a couple weeks. But mine is late this year, not til mid December
Her: Totally fine! We can figure it out. Work is busy for you right now?
So because I was busy the next week I need to acknowledge that yes I'm busy, but still want to see you. Hence the "hope that's cool" part in my one text. She 100% has to say "yes no problem etc" or she looks like an asshole, which no girl wants to do. My next texts create intrigue (with me going somewhere), and I also reward her for being flexible, which puts me in a position of "power/high status" as I'm doing the rewarding.
NOTE: I shouldn't have asked how her weekend was, and instead let this convo die for a bit. Oh well.
Her: I literally just finished the most busy working period of my year and get to relax a bit now. So I get it. Haha well it sounds like you have lots of drive and ambition so it's ok to do what you need to do to be successful!
Her: My weekend has been good. Just catching uup on things around the house since I was away last week. What are you up to today?
Me: Sounds like you could use on of my famous massages.
Me: Where were you last week? Mostly meal prepping and running errands today. (Fun I know
Me: Currently eating breakfast (gorgeous picture of my breakfast)
The massage line I use whenever a girl tells me she is super busy/stressed etc. Always gets a good response.
Her: You have no idea! I was actually thinking about getting a massage this week haha
Her: I was in XXX running a conference Saturday-Tuesday, then in XYZ Wednesday/Thursday running the same conference.
Her: Sounds productive though
Me: Hold off a week, it'll make mine that much better
Me: Very productive, I could use some downtime to finish reading some things though
Her: Haha I think there's a couple steps missing before getting to massages
Her: What are you reading?
So again I try to sexualize but she doesn't bite, so I just maintain and brush things off.
Me: Of course. Step one: build chemistry in person
Me: Finished a book on love languages. You don't need to tell me how cool I am
I use this whhenever a girl asks me what I'm reading. It works well in a few ways, as she'll always tell you hers (which you can then use that info on the date to your advantage), and I think it DHVs, as a lot of guys don't read, and don't read books on love languages. I also use a bit of self depreciation here which I think is funny.
One thing I don't want to do here is immediately give her the answer. This is a great time to tease a bit and build investment by getting her to invest. You could make her guess or go with something like "say please" to get more investment.
Me: Same
Me: Guess
Me: I have 2 main ones
Her: Hmm well witty banter isn't one of them...but you clearly have that covered
Her: What are the choices?
Hell yes I have witty banter covered, thanks baby.
Me: We both do
Me: Physical touch, quality time, words of affirmation, gift giving, and acts of service
Her: Since you already offered to give me a massage, I'm going to say physical touch?
Me: Guess it wasn't that hard ha
Me: At least I know you're perceptive
Her: I try, I try
Her: Touch is probably mine too
So now that I know this, I know I can get a bit more handsy on our date (calibrate of course). Here I try sexualizing, again, but again, she doesn't bite lol. But notice how it's always subtle, just revving the engine slightly, not putting the foot to the floor.
So again she doesn't bite. The correct move is to just keep moving forward, don't try continuing to sexualize/escalate if she's not ready.
I always go with the "not the douchey kind" when being vegan comes up. As some girls aren't into that. Usually gets a laugh as well.
So here I actually qualify myself, but then instantly spin things back around so she has to qualify.
Her: Oh definitely not picky. I'm sure we'll be fine
Me: Perfect
Her: What are you up to this week?
Me: Work mostly, and just a few side things I need to finish. And plan our date of course
Me: You?
Her: Haha cute. Mostly work too. Seeing one of my work friends who's on mat leave and her baby tomorrow and a few workouts booked
Me: Sounds like you're going to be pretty ripped by the time we get together
Her: Don't set the bar too high...wouldn't want you to be disappointed
Her: But yes, I have a 3-4 time/week routine
Me: Well as long as the (peach emoji) is there I'm happy
Me: That's awesome. Too many people these days don't put in the effort to stay fit/healthy
Her: Haha I have an ass, don't worry
Me: Perfect (ok finger emoji)
Her: It's kind fo addicting once you start. I get grumpy now if I can't do something active for too many days in a row (sweating emoji?)
Me: 100% agree. I feel like shit if I haven't gone for a few days. And just happier/more focused overall after I go.
Me: And booty gains obviously
Her: Haha obviously
Her I let the convo die, as I didn't want to overinvest. I was going to text her after the weekend, but she ended up texting me on Monday anyway (which is a good sign of investment). but god damn girls have 0 game lol.
Her: Hey (blushing smiley emoji) How was your day?
Me: Hey
Her: Oh no! Anything I can do to improve it?
Her: It was ok, nothing too crazy happening today
Aww, she's sweet for asking this. +10 points in my book
Me: Haha no not really. But even asking if there is is a nice gesture
Her: Haha well let me know if you need cheering up (smiley blush emoji)
Me: You're sweet.
Her: I'm very skilled at hermiting. Sounds like a good idea though. Just relax tonight!
Me: Thanks, definitley relaxing all night.
I let things die here as well, and then once I had my schedule I texted her Thursday to make plans the next week. So keep in mind it's been over a week of text so far.
Me: hey XXX,
Her: Hi (smiley blush emoji) how are you?
Her: My schedule is very open next week. What did you have in mind?
Me: Our romantic date of course.
Me: I will have my schedule late tonight/early tomorrow, so I'll shoot you plans then
Her: Haha (blowing kiss emoji0
Her: Ok sounds good! Did your week improve at all?
Me: Yeah it did, long story. Feeling better though.
Her: That's good, I'm glad.
Me:
Later that night I got my schedule so I texted her. Notice how even though she said her schedule is pretty open I still give her a couple days to choose from, not just one.
Me: What's your Monday/Tuesday like?
Her: Tuesday is better for me
Me: Ok, how's XYZ for 6:30 on Tuesday work for you?
Her: That works (smiley blush emoji)
Me: Great, see you then
Her: Looking forward to it!
I don't text her all weekend, so Monday I shoot a text just to keep things warm and confirm our plans for Tuesday.
Morning XXX, hope you had a good weekend. Still good for tomorrow?
Her: Hi (smiley blush emoji) how was your weekend?
Her: Yes - have been nursing a cold all weekend trying to get healthy for tomorrow!
Me: Bummer! Well I can always offer to spank the cold out of you.
Her: Hahaha
Her: No, I'll be fine. Almost 100% today. I finally slowed down last week so my body went into full shut down mode (upside down smiley)
Me: Ah, yeah I've been there too recently, it's brutal. Glad to hear you're feeling better for tomorrow though, looking forward to it.
I wanted the convo to end here, but she continues it. I don't want to get mired into endless convo so I just answer, but don't ask any questions back.
Her: How was your weekend? You had your Christmas party?
Me: Weekend was fun, did a lot. As for the Christmas party...I didn't go...Long story haha.
Her: Oh good! More productive than me sitting in bed drinking tea. Hahaha you can tell me tomorrow
Me: Doing that with a great book also sounds great though. Deal, will share all the juicy details tomorrow
Her: True, could be worse. Perfect
Day of the date, I send my standard pre date text in the morning.
Later...
The Date
Not going into crazy detail here but some highlights were:
Good, deep conversation with lots of deep diving. I used the fact that her love language is physical touch to be a bit heavier with the touching, which she later told me she loved. Some whispering into her ear, her telling me I'm sexy, me saying I'm having a good time, lots of banter. Overall I had a really strong, sexy, masculine frame the whole night, lots of intense eye contact, and very relaxed. Made out a bit at the bar, with me ending the kiss. Normal successful date stuff. As for the pull, I originally tried something like "we should go listen to music at your place after this" to which she was on the fence about, but it wasn't a solid no, so I backtracked a bit and instead offered to just drive her home. she took an EVO here so I offered to drive her back. We left, we get to her place, I get a small amount of ASD about coming in, but I say something like "It's fine if you don't want me coming in, not a big deal, but I'm having a great time, and I know we're going to see each other again regardless of what happens, so why don't we spend a little more time together now while I'm her with you, because I'm having fun, and I think you are too." Then she just smiled, we make out some more, and she invites me inside.
After that it was clothes off, straight to the bedroom, sucking fucking, and multiple squirting sessions for her. Now for the juicy after sex talk, where I found out that:
1. She's never squirted so many times in one night before
2. Most guys are terrible in bed, but also think they are amazing
3. She fantasized about me before our date
4. When I asked her when she decided she wanted to fuck me, she said "about 20 minutes into our date." Lol god damnit woman, why the hesitation about inviting me home then?
Just goes to show that even if a girl wants to fuck you, sometimes her logical mind won't let her. 5. She's not into ONS, but long term shit scares her too. She says it's just hard finding someone who wants that middle ground with the potential for more.
6. A lot of her girlfriends only go on one date with a guy and that's it, and then they move onto the next.....Damn, that's the harsh reality these days I guess. Really pushes home the point that you need to at least try closing that first date, or else your chances are slim. Not 0, but slim. Sometimes it just needs to be 2 dates.
Then the post date text:
Me: Home now. That was fun, hope you're not too sore tomorrow
Her: Glad you made it! Haha well if I am, all it means is I need to keep doing it so it's not as bad the next time
Hope you enjoyed and can take some insights away from this.
