Hoe to be sexual with higher quality women?

[Blessed]

I was going downtown Chicago with my cousin and literally every dude tries to hit on her or tries to get sexual with her... Now although my cousin is very attractive she has one of those personality that attracts a lot of people... She hangs around countless celebrities which is koo but I kno she wouldn't give any of the dudes who approach her on the street a shot... So she tells me " Cousin you know I'm intelligent.. There's more to me than my looks. Yes I kno I look good but im more than a piece of meat"

I'm like everybody wants to fuck you deal with it lol... But literally even her manager profess his feelings for her and she kept the relationship strictly business. I actually see what hot women go through...

Now in reference to me 90% of those guys lack fundamentals and reek desperation but they give guys like me who are more calibrated a hard time because when I get sexual I get thrown in the box " all men want is sex" ... Now my cousin partner count is extremely low like 3 and she talks about sex with me but hates having casual sex she thinks it's very slutty. How can be I sexual with girls who are higher quality so I wont instantly enter in auto reject me despite the countless dudes who hit on her... Like this girl who I just took out on a date ask me what were my motives I told I'm not looking for anything I just enjoy the company and then she auto rejects me...
Any suggestions?

 

[ray_zorse]

Great fundamentals, calibration, and a confident, likeable, calm (or medium-energy), friendly approach.

I have to hammer on this quite a lot when I go out with my buddies in nightgame, or, when I go out by myself and I meet dudes and they are asking me how come I am dancing with all the most desirable girls. So what these dudes do is they basically come up next to the girl dancing and trying to get into her group (too timid), and/or they try to get physical with her straightaway (too bold). Nuh uh! That just puts them straight in the bin you describe.

I gather you were referring to daygame not nightgame, but much the same principle applies, coming in with sleazy pickup lines or wolf whistles or tipping the wink and making overt sexual innuendo (too bold), or stammering, red-faced and nervous (too timid)... no good!

So what we recommend guys to do here is just introduce yourself and talk to her and find out about her, this is the opposite of sleazy (she can guess and hope you might want to get into her pants but she doesn't know for sure), and is also not timid since you are assuming she has time for you, will want to qualify & explain herself to you, etc.

(This is how I handle nightgame as well and it gets great reactions, noting that reactions != results, I am keen to read the latest dancefloor seduction articles on GC but have not done so, anyway I just use a daygame style approach for the most part with some slight streamlining and this gets tons better reactions than my buddies, I keep telling them, above all else just introduce yourself by name after which you can pretty much do anything you want, but they don't listen).

The friendly, connection-building approach does have drawbacks though, which are mainly to do with not showing enough sexual intent. With a girl like you describe (low partner count, gets hit on all the time), you want to come in friendly yet with a highly sexual body language (strong eye contact, husky voice etc), and then after she hooks, start adding subtle sexual innuendo to the conversation. Specifically, sexual and chase frames. Note attainability must be in place before chase framing, hence why I say to do this after she hooks and you have at least some small connection built.

Skipping steps is also fine once you are calibrated -- if she is giving you the go-ahead, then by all means be sexual or be physical from the get-go. But it sounds like your cousin would not appreciate this. Anyway, my fundamentals aren't that great (I am a bit overweight for one thing), but I bet if I had approached you and her the day you describe, you wouldn't have thought of it as an approach, just an awesome dude taking a casual interest in your day.

Ray

 

[Richard]

Hmmm... would've been interesting if I was in downtown that day haha. I usually take the train into the city at least once a week =P

First and foremost, there's a lot going on here: the average guy in Chicago has no idea how to run calibrated game. They are big fish in little ponds, and I assume your cousin is a big fish in a bigger pond so these guys have absolutely no idea how to handle her. You won't meet many guys who study seduction in Chicago and honestly, these guys' regular game is good enough to get them laid from other girls so why change? They run more ghetto and thuggish game which works on most girls in Chicago.

Then, in comparing your cousin with high quality women - in order to be sexual with them you have to have incredibly tight fundamentals.

Her view on sex is that casual sex equates to sluttiness because of her partner count. There's a general progression of your thoughts on sex with an increased number of partners, she's still relatively inexperienced and immature with her regards to viewing sex.

So, we have a sexually inexperienced woman who is very attractive and highly intelligent. It takes a sexually experienced, very attractive, and socially graceful man to pull her.

Now, you should not view all high quality women in the same light as your cousin because she's a bit of a rarity within an already rare population. High quality women who are beautiful and intelligent are usually the easiest women to talk to, and once you're able to pull genuine conversation out of them your game and seduction won't differ much from a more average one.

Would've been fun for me to approach her though! If you're ever headed into Chicago again hit me up.

-Richard

 

[Blessed]

Yea Ray that's what I do and it works in regards to the friendly approach but again I think I need to polarize a bit because girls see me as boyfriend material... Like this girl recently I took out I introduced myself the same way you describe and got her out on a date and conversation flowed smoothly but when I tried to get her alone she asked me what my motive were in regards to dealing with women? I'm calibrated enough to remain unphased so I casually responded I'm not looking I just enjoy your company and she auto rejected... I think she went into auto rejected because she perceive me as a guy who didn't just want her for sex but the moment I tried to get more sexual it was over... It's ok because she not my ideal type of girl I would want to fuck... I typically like girls who are liberal towards sex so whatever i next her.

Yea Richard the dudes who have the balls to approach are hood and I know she would never give them a chance because she's too calibrated...My fundamentals are nice but there a few things I gotta work I'm currently focused on my mental states... But yea if you were downtown It would be interesting to see how you would do with her because she claims that game wouldn't work on her In regards to having sex with her because she claims she's not a sexual person... But her actions contradict because she always talk about sex...That's koo you visit Chicago let me kno if you serious about trying to link up I kno I could learn some shit

 

[Richard]

Yea Ray that's what I do and it works in regards to the friendly approach but again I think I need to polarize a bit because girls see me as boyfriend material... Like this girl recently I took out I introduced myself the same way you describe and got her out on a date and conversation flowed smoothly but when I tried to get her alone she asked me what my motive were in regards to dealing with women? I'm calibrated enough to remain unphased so I casually responded I'm not looking I just enjoy your company and she auto rejected... I think she went into auto rejected because she perceive me as a guy who didn't just want her for sex but the moment I tried to get more sexual it was over... It's ok because she not my ideal type of girl I would want to fuck... I typically like girls who are liberal towards sex so whatever i next her.

Yea Richard the dudes who have the balls to approach are hood and I know she would never give them a chance because she's too calibrated...My fundamentals are nice but there a few things I gotta work I'm currently focused on my mental states... But yea if you were downtown It would be interesting to see how you would do with her because she claims that game wouldn't work on her In regards to having sex with her because she claims she's not a sexual person... But her actions contradict because she always talk about sex...That's koo you visit Chicago let me kno if you serious about trying to link up I kno I could learn some shit

Girls who say game doesn't work on them are most susceptible to it working on them

I know Chase has an article where he says that somewhere floating around the site (might've been Franco that said that as well).

-Richard

 

[Chase]

Girls who say game doesn't work on them are most susceptible to it working on them

I know Chase has an article where he says that somewhere floating around the site (might've been Franco that said that as well).

-Richard

It's the old hypnosis effect. The smartest people protest the loudest it won't work on them, yet are actually the easiest to hypnotize, the most susceptible to suggestion, and the quickest to fall under.

The more you swear up and down something will never work on you, the more it's going to work on you.

Chase