Holy **** I am bad at talking to girls

HumanWhoLearns

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I can't seem to click with any girls I talk to ... online or in person. It's like I just don't know what to say and whatever I do or say is wrong. I've been reading and watching paid programs for this stuff but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I've never gotten a number from a girl I've approached in person. Online I get ignored about 80-95% and the other percent we talk for a little bit until she ignores me. I'm late 20's and never had a gf. I'm starting to feel like it's never going to happen for me, that I'm fucked.

And I am not this negative when talking to them, only when I'm bitching about my problems.
 

Mr.Rob

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Gotta talk to 100-200 girls before you can make this compliant (though maybe you have?)

Everyone starts out the same way. You just push through and try to push each interaction as far it can go until you start to see something click.
 

Grand Pooba

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I can't seem to click with any girls I talk to ... online or in person. It's like I just don't know what to say and whatever I do or say is wrong. I've been reading and watching paid programs for this stuff but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I've never gotten a number from a girl I've approached in person. Online I get ignored about 80-95% and the other percent we talk for a little bit until she ignores me. I'm late 20's and never had a gf. I'm starting to feel like it's never going to happen for me, that I'm fucked.

And I am not this negative when talking to them, only when I'm bitching about my problems.


I just see a bunch of complaining here but not anything specific that you need help with, there’s no information about what you did and how she reacted, or anything of substance. So I’m not really sure how we can help you without more details.
 

COCPORN

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I usually never suggest this, but it actually sounds like you could do with focusing on traditional attraction building.

What happens when you are in set? You are telling us it "doesn't click", but how does it fail?

Are you familiar with the idea of focusing on _one thing_ when in set? As in, take a technique and only focus on that single thing?
 

HumanWhoLearns

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Well I do get better reactions in person than I do online, part of that might be my presence and the fact that not a lot of guys approach in the daytime.

I'll take one example of where I messed up. I was all set to go out with this girl who messaged me on OkC. She mentioned that she didn't have any $ to bring on the date b/c she was going dutch. So after I asked her what going dutch meant, I mentioned how that in modern dating when guys are expected to pay for everything, it puts women on a pedestal. I thought she would respect that but I guess not, she deleted her account this morning.

None of my matches on tinder ever reply to my intros, I guess they're not exciting or captivating enough.

I did get Todd V's system, so I guess I'll try going out and using that on girls in addition to using these forums and supplementing w/ Girls Chase articles and other material.
 

daniellrobinson

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"Gotta talk to 100-200 girls before you can make this compliant"

I share this opinion and I think you can try it...
 

HeartRipper

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, I mentioned how that in modern dating when guys are expected to pay for everything, it puts women on a pedestal. I thought she would respect that but I guess not, she deleted her account this morning.
It's usually a bad idea to argue with girls over game principles. I don't even bring this stuff up with girls because most psychology works in reverse of what the conscious mind thinks is what is. So do not explain to her about why buying her drinks is putting her on a pedestal, or why she will want you more if other girls want you too. Her conscious mind will simply not get it.
Your goal is to provide good emotions and then get the girl qualifying herself. Avoid the intellectual and technical arguments.

Otherwise, I think this is typical beginner problems and sinply hang in there and keep working. However, instead of trying to get girls from all areas, I think you should focus on a particular part of your game, handle the sticking points through deliberate practice and then try something else.
I started with daygame and largely ignored other ways of getting girls for a while until i was really good at it.
So, leave the online stuff and get in the field first. The fundamentals and principles will make more sense after you have built your field experience. Then you can come back online.
 

Dimension

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Hi ..

First of all , NEVER EVER bitch about your problems .. No women is interested in a guy who is spreading his problems like a butterfly spreading its wings on a sunny spring day .. Of course we all have problems but bitching about them to a girl you just met is a no go .



#1 -No matter how hot is the girl , never agree with her opinion (Of course if she says something like :Red is red .. Then there's nothing much to object on .... Don't be afraid to tell your opinion even if it doesn't fit with hers .. Lot of the guys just agree what womdn say because they are afraid of losing it ..

#2 Be mysterious ( For me it is easy because i'm a scorpio and that pretty much comes in hand .. I cannot tell how many girls have chased me just because of that ! I leave so much out there and yet they are the ones who have served me everything ! Keep them guessing .

#3 Flirt a lot ! And i don't mean that you should tell them how beautiful are their eyes but just small things like (Example i had from todays conversation : Her : I ate burger today and i feel kinda fat , i'm such a horrible person .. but eh whatever its christmas !! (She was obviously seekong for my approval that she isn't fat !) I replied : Well i guess it goes to your ass so i wouldnt mind some extra juicyness on your ass ;)



I can sense you are worried and trust me .. They do too ! You worry too much and thst reflects on everything ! You can pm me if you wish and i could give you some extra pointers .. There is too much to cover overall but i could help you with couple of things that i am using and have find a lot of success in !
 

COCPORN

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I'll take one example of where I messed up. I was all set to go out with this girl who messaged me on OkC. She mentioned that she didn't have any $ to bring on the date b/c she was going dutch. So after I asked her what going dutch meant, I mentioned how that in modern dating when guys are expected to pay for everything, it puts women on a pedestal. I thought she would respect that but I guess not, she deleted her account this morning.

"Going Dutch" means splitting the bill/covering their own expenses. It sounds like the girl has no idea what she's talking about. However, your response sounds rather odd, and I can understand why it turns a woman off. I have dated a bit in the US, and unfortunately, every once in a while you come across women that are particular about having the meal paid for them. Outright spouting "lines from the game" (as in "don't put her on a pedestal") is odd unless you know what you're doing. It can work great if you are an obviously high-value male, but truth be told it is probably obvious at this point that you do not come across as one.

I personally traditionally prefer to pay for dates, because it allows me to go places that are in my price range instead of going to Burger King.

None of my matches on tinder ever reply to my intros, I guess they're not exciting or captivating enough.

I don't understand why you're writing this. To echo Grand Pooba, It is absolutely impossible to help you if you do not also tell us what you open with.

Also, on Tinder, you have to understand that matching with someone is not a true gauge of how interested they are in you. You might be slightly above a threshold if they are looking for someone to help them kill time, give them attention and flatter them. You will notice the difference in how people choose to engage you or not if you look at someone who has a good profile.

I did get Todd V's system, so I guess I'll try going out and using that on girls in addition to using these forums and supplementing w/ Girls Chase articles and other material.

Yeah, I guess you will.
 

punisher

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Hi ..

First of all , NEVER EVER bitch about your problems .. No women is interested in a guy who is spreading his problems like a butterfly spreading its wings on a sunny spring day .. Of course we all have problems but bitching about them to a girl you just met is a no go .



#1 -No matter how hot is the girl , never agree with her opinion (Of course if she says something like :Red is red .. Then there's nothing much to object on .... Don't be afraid to tell your opinion even if it doesn't fit with hers .. Lot of the guys just agree what womdn say because they are afraid of losing it ..

#2 Be mysterious ( For me it is easy because i'm a scorpio and that pretty much comes in hand .. I cannot tell how many girls have chased me just because of that ! I leave so much out there and yet they are the ones who have served me everything ! Keep them guessing .

#3 Flirt a lot ! And i don't mean that you should tell them how beautiful are their eyes but just small things like (Example i had from todays conversation : Her : I ate burger today and i feel kinda fat , i'm such a horrible person .. but eh whatever its christmas !! (She was obviously seekong for my approval that she isn't fat !) I replied : Well i guess it goes to your ass so i wouldnt mind some extra juicyness on your ass ;)



I can sense you are worried and trust me .. They do too ! You worry too much and thst reflects on everything ! You can pm me if you wish and i could give you some extra pointers .. There is too much to cover overall but i could help you with couple of things that i am using and have find a lot of success in !

This is absolutely true, never talk about yourself, always put the girl in the center and flirt with her, show her that your interested in her, when she goes home you would be in her mind, she would be thinking who is that guy? how come we spoke so much but i dont know anything about him, but he knows so much about me? This is what drives women crazy! Show interest, flirt, never talk about urself unless she asks and ur good to go!
 
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