How are you guys cold approaching with mask to mask scenarios...

[YS.]

We have fines between 1 to 5k for not wearing masks. (So... We're wearing masks.)

I haven't converted a DG pull post corona so far due to many reasons but for opening and getting into a conversation any kind of opinion opener about Corona or masks have worked for me and one other guy who has a really strong opener game.

Yesterday I got into a really good conversation with a hottie that hooked very well: (I'm translating from another lang)

-> Hey, I need to ask you sth. (They stop, you speaking over the shoulder.) Do we have to wear these?
-> Yeah.
-> Really? I hate these masks. Is it mandatory? What happens if I don't want to?
-> (they explain to you the laws)
-> Oh damn. I haven't been paying attention to the news lately. It's been changing every day.
-> Yeah.
-> Isn't it crazy? What do you think about this, I think it's all one big hoax?! Do you think we should wear masks?
-> Yeah... Actually. Bla bla bla.

(Then you can disagree with her points, break rapport, cut the thread, change topics, make jokes, add more about yourself by telling a story, etc.) Almost everyone has strong opinions about Corona and masks, it's a good social hook point hack. Also a lot of instant commonalities. ("Hey I can't fucking talk in this mask and I feel weird." Guess who else feels that way and probably has 10 examples of it? The girl.) Transitioning into a real convo is very easy with a qualifier. (You're actually super cool/friendly, what's your name? / where are you from? / You're not from here, are you?, etc.)

This also gives you time to "relax in the pocket" and open up. As you open up you engage more, have better eye contact and project your voice better, in other words, you get out of your head WITHIN THE CONVERSATION, not before it. You don't have to be razor sharp from the get go. I often never am without social momentum.

I honestly think opinion openers and actually letting the girl carry the convo is the best solution to the "I'm in my head and don't have social momentum." problem. But sadly, it's a dying art at this point. My game is probably much more indirect than yours Skills so adjust accordingly. But how much you hate masks, how it puts you in your head is actually a good congruent opener IMO. But if you're used to opening super strong and intentful, yeah it's gonna throw you off.

(Do we have to wear masks?) -> (I hate it. What do you think about it?) (A variation of this will buy you 1 to 10 minutes which you can use to relax and open up.) Transition off it quickly though because it's not a very juicy topic and it goes nowhere/becomes dry quick if you don't.

Some other good Corona related questions that I've used.
- Hey I love your mask. Where did you get it?
- When do you think this will end?
- Do you think we'll ever get back to normal?

All hooked OK to well.

 

[Skills]

We have fines between 1 to 5k for not wearing masks. (So... We're wearing masks.)

I haven't converted a DG pull post corona so far due to many reasons but for opening and getting into a conversation any kind of opinion opener about Corona or masks have worked for me and one other guy who has a really strong opener game.

Yesterday I got into a really good conversation with a hottie that hooked very well: (I'm translating from another lang)

-> Hey, I need to ask you sth. (They stop, you speaking over the shoulder.) Do we have to wear these?
-> Yeah.
-> Really? I hate these masks. Is it mandatory? What happens if I don't want to?
-> (they explain to you the laws)
-> Oh damn. I haven't been paying attention to the news lately. It's been changing every day.
-> Yeah.
-> Isn't it crazy? What do you think about this, I think it's all one big hoax?! Do you think we should wear masks?
-> Yeah... Actually. Bla bla bla.

(Then you can disagree with her points, break rapport, cut the thread, change topics, make jokes, add more about yourself by telling a story, etc.) Almost everyone has strong opinions about Corona and masks, it's a good social hook point hack. Also a lot of instant commonalities. ("Hey I can't fucking talk in this mask and I feel weird." Guess who else feels that way and probably has 10 examples of it? The girl.) Transitioning into a real convo is very easy with a qualifier. (You're actually super cool/friendly, what's your name? / where are you from? / You're not from here, are you?, etc.)

This also gives you time to "relax in the pocket" and open up. As you open up you engage more, have better eye contact and project your voice better, in other words, you get out of your head WITHIN THE CONVERSATION, not before it. You don't have to be razor sharp from the get go. I often never am without social momentum.

I honestly think opinion openers and actually letting the girl carry the convo is the best solution to the "I'm in my head and don't have social momentum." problem. But sadly, it's a dying art at this point. My game is probably much more indirect than yours Skills so adjust accordingly. But how much you hate masks, how it puts you in your head is actually a good congruent opener IMO. But if you're used to opening super strong and intentful, yeah it's gonna throw you off.

(Do we have to wear masks?) -> (I hate it. What do you think about it?) (A variation of this will buy you 1 to 10 minutes which you can use to relax and open up.) Transition off it quickly though because it's not a very juicy topic and it goes nowhere/becomes dry quick if you don't.

Some other good Corona related questions that I've used.
- Hey I love your mask. Where did you get it?
- When do you think this will end?
- Do you think we'll ever get back to normal?

All hooked OK to well.

If you notice one of my answers to velasco i said i was thinking to do the above ^, it seems to be the logical way to deal with this by acknowledging.... This has to be the worst year in general for seduction, never seen it this bad(i have been doing this since 15 i am 45).... Now they banned alcohol/facepalm.... (no that i drink but i doubt people will be out)....

 

[Train]

If you notice one of my answers to velasco i said i was thinking to do the above ^, it seems to be the logical way to deal with this by acknowledging.... This has to be the worst year in general for seduction, never seen it this bad(i have been doing this since 15 i am 45).... Now they banned alcohol/facepalm.... (no that i drink but i doubt people will be out)....

Bars closed again where I am so I won't be able to test night game. Just leaves day game at parks, malls, maybe beaches. Masks are mandatory now though. Guess that helps the experiment.

Great year I picked to start my seduction journey hahaha

 

[darknesspua]

I have been doing the following to solve this problem with a lot of success:

Just before you are going to do your apprach lower your mask for her to see your smile and your face uncovered. Lowwer it below your mouth but let it hanging on your chin (instead of all the way to your neck). Once you have achieved some comfort with teh girl or the hook point, put it back on to avoid trouble (you can even tell her "I am going to pull this up so that the guards do not give US trouble ")

The most important part of teh approach is teh very start when you need to establish comfort and a first impression of your non-threatening intentions towards her. Once she is comfy talking to you, or even better, hooked, you can then proceed escalate the interaction with the mask on without problem.

It is silliar to what @Velasco proposed and based on the same principle, but even more stealth and you have more control over it. You are only breaking the "rules/laws" in a very targeted manner and in a very quick way, so your potential exposure to trouble is greatly diminished compared to a situation where you did not had a mask at all or you followed Velasco's advice verbatim.

 

[darknesspua]

If you notice one of my answers to velasco i said i was thinking to do the above ^, it seems to be the logical way to deal with this by acknowledging.... This has to be the worst year in general for seduction, never seen it this bad(i have been doing this since 15 i am 45).... Now they banned alcohol/facepalm.... (no that i drink but i doubt people will be out)....

Well, I actually think is among teh best times ever :b

I am doing just great.

Top reasons:

- No competitons.
- Girls thirsty for sex as hell.
- Girls thirsty for male attention as hell.
- Girls with a hell lot more time vailability without school/work.
- Girls in a much better mood/state due to better eating, sleeping, etc.
- So on....

I actually do not wnat this to end for a long time :b

I am having a blast, and once you figure out the way to hack their stupid rules then you really have the world for yourself )

 

[Roundy]

I don’t know if I can add anything you wouldn’t have thought of yourself, but here’s my two cents:

1. Open indirect. Firstly, you can’t see her face, she can’t see yours so if you come on strong it’s very questionable. Like she could be missing half her teeth or sth.

2. Don’t talk about coronavirus! This should be a golden rule with everyone but your closest friends. No one wants to hear more about it right now. It’s just a downer.

3. Know that they want to approached now more than ever. We all know that this a hard time to approach. But we’re grizzled approaching veterans, imagine how the regular dorks that approach women must feel. Women are starved of attention. So if you come across decently they will welcome it.

 

[Skills]

In this video I go over the difficulties of approaching strangers with a mask and how I was able to deal with it in a really short amount of time. This challenges are maximized because a lot of us have not had social contact due to the quarantine, a lot of us are used to night game and finally a lot of us are very rusty.

I explain that no matter how long you been in the game, you need to keep your ego in check and humble yourself now and start as a newbie. I explained that though i really do not have approach anxiety without mask, I found myself having approach anxiety with masks on.

So I decided to do a newbie challenge that is given to people with general approach anxiety and perform some of the challenges with the mask

. Day 1- I just walked around in supermarket and malls without approaching but wondering "what would i do in this and that situation.

Day 2: I walked around with swagger making eye contact with multiple girls without breaking the eye contact

Day 3.- I said hi to multiple women.

Day 4.- I complemented multiple women and kept walking

Day 5.- I finally open mainly with indirect situational openers.

I explained that my mask approach anxiety was almost completely gone to the point I did not remember i had the mask on.

I explained that a win should just be approaching and how there are new guys that started in the game such as peter having success just by approaching without advance level of game.

I explained how @Velasco deals with security situation in some places were they require the mask to be on at all times while allowing the hottie to see his face.

I explained some tricks that help me a lot with forcing pre-approach invites and hoovering. Such as pretending to talk on the phone.

I explain how @Gunwitch pretends to text on the phone, singing, teevester hit and run opener etc...

I talk about how @Peterdk234 opens at the gym with "i have not seen you here before" I give some direct opener examples, I show some quarantine fun openers, but again my preference is situational openers.