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Dimes

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Think about it.

They don't actually know techniques or anything. So regular dudes who end up with nice looking gfs... Were they just winging it?

Is it really just luck and looks? For the regular guy
 

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Dimes,

Dimes said:
They don't actually know techniques or anything. So regular dudes who end up with nice looking gfs... Were they just winging it?

Is it really just luck and looks? For the regular guy

It depends. It can be difficult to tell if you're new, and even if you're intermediate, this can be hit n miss.

Zac
 

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ZacAdam said:
Dimes,

Dimes said:
They don't actually know techniques or anything. So regular dudes who end up with nice looking gfs... Were they just winging it?

Is it really just luck and looks? For the regular guy

It depends. It can be difficult to tell if you're new, and even if you're intermediate, this can be hit n miss.

Zac


What do you mean exactly? Elaborate please
 
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

trashKENNUT

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Dimes,

Dimes said:
They don't actually know techniques or anything. So regular dudes who end up with nice looking gfs... Were they just winging it?

Is it really just luck and looks? For the regular guy

Regular dudes end up with nice looking gfs. So what is a "nice looking" girlfriend? If most guys are honest with themselves, they can tell if a girl is "hot" as in makeup or "beautiful" as in she is naturally good looking.

Most of the regular guys whom have "hot" girlfriends, usually are the one that is chasing the girl.

Zac
 

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Times were easier before sites like this so there was no need for PUA. In older times, women had lower standards for looks while these days so many girls are flooded with pictures of male models and other pretty boys on social media. Add to that the fact that a lot of these girls get a massive ego boost from common men consistently liking their pictures on their instagram and facebooks and now you have the problem of women becoming choosier. Back in the 80s and 90s, a guy with average looks could easily get laid with just a little bit of game while these days a guy needs to bring a lot more to the table. Obesity rates have also gone up which means a smaller selection of attractive women who now have all the power in the world.
 

Drck

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I mentioned it several times before, seduction is overrated. A guy doesn't really need seduction skills to get a girl, but again, it just all depends on what you want.

To find a girl, a guy must go and talk to girls. There is just no other way. Once he talks to different girls there will always be some that he likes more than the others. The same from girl's stand point of view, if she talks to more guys there is always some guy that she will like more than others. That is it, they like each other, they go out, touch, kiss, go to the bedroom and have sex. Miracle is done, no seduction skills are needed... Its been working for millions of years like that, otherwise none of us would be here....

But it doesn't work for everyone. Guys are shy. They don't talk to girls. They have some problems, are too introverted, too anxious, too demanding, too sensitive... They just don't talk to different girls so the natural thing can't even happen.

Technology didn't help, today its much easier to jerk off to internet porn than go out and talk to girls and face rejections. So new skills are needed, what was natural for millions of years must be learned now...

Must approach and get number. There are certain techniques in approaching, must approach the right way otherwise she won't type in her number in my phone! Must call within 2 days, perhaps the same day. Or was it 5 days? So confusing. Must put seductive clothes on. Must put the right sexy smile on, must suggest sex by clever words, because she is just so stupid that she would never figure that one out. Oh, she wants sex, girls like sex, how come girls like sex - that is definitely a shocking discovery!

Must touch too, OMG, how difficult is to touch another human being, there are only certain touches that are attractive. Must be more attractive, the fact that I am a guy with a dick and she is a girl with pussy is definitely not good enough. More attraction is needed! And kiss, there are only certain techniques to kiss, otherwise kiss is not a kiss! Not even talking about fingers in her pussy.

Wait - Must pretend to be confident first, must pretend to be a winner in life! Well, jerking off with your left hand doesn't really increases you confidence much, and you didn't win porn price either....

So there you go, seducing a girl is too difficult, impossible, there is just so much stuff to know, so many things to do.... And there is also an obsession. One girls is not good enough. Must be 10 girls. No, 50. Hold on, if it is less than 200, all blonds 8/10, you really just have no clue what are you talking about...
 

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Everyone,

I kind of agree that seduction is overrated but there's two ways you can look at it. If you look at successful people, you tend to over emphasize what they have done, when actually all that they have done is directly this (as examples),

-investments
-mergers
-sales

So when you look at successful people and you look at it by simple terms, it looks easy. But ultimately, it's more complex as there is sub categories like what you learn, what you say and what you do.

I agree partly with Drck, it is overrated in the sense of how things are done but you need that for marketing. That's how people thrive in business. If i don't show you something motivational or inspirational, you will probably be bored and buy something else.

Zac
 

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Drck really makes a point.

It's easy to get sucked into the mindset that all of life is about game when it really doesn't have to be. You can easily get wrapped up thinking you need to put so much effort into this and spend every moment learning or practicing.

Don't get me wrong, at a certain point it can feel like there's so much to learn and do and if starting from scratch it CAN be worth just investing some real time getting your act together but naturally meeting women can just come from living life, and that's how the "regular" guy does it.

- Hot women have friends too, everyone might not have a social circle full of hot women but some guys just fall into it.
- Some guys have sisters or cousins or friends with hot friends, they just fall into it with social circle.
- Some of these guys just wifey up the first great girl they meet. They haven't met 100s of women and never will but they met one they think is good and were content.
- Some of it is just dumb luck.
- Some of them just try! Plain and simple. Game isn't actually *that* hard. Sure, all this stuff improves the odds in your favor but if you just play the numbers game and don't care about girls who aren't into them, they'll meet a girl. Some women are just into you, some are just not. If you just don't care and keep talking to women, you'll meet one that likes you. To be honest that's how most guys do it.
- Some just have a social life, activities, sports, groups, careers or a combination of these which just mean they are around people a lot. It happens. Some other have to work to cultivate this. For example, certain careers lend you to being around a lot of women, or successful people, or whatever else... some just don't and you have to actively pursue these opportunities.
- The couple of guys I've ever met who could get laid easily without being "into game" had a combination of just having no fear, being self confident, having some good social skills naturally (i.e. just being talkative, flirty and not being afraid to talk with anyone anywhere). It didnt matter that they did or said, they just created opportunities for themselves.
- Some guys are just good looking or work out or whatever. Ok, so we like to say looks don't matter, but if you look like you workout and dress well... it's hardly going to hurt them.
- Maybe they are rich, famous, etc, etc, etc... again, it's not NECESSARY to have all that, but if you do, it won't hurt your cause will it?

It's just a combination of all of the above. Mostly it's creating opportunities, lucking into some others, by being social and not afraid of talking to people, play the numbers game, make people feel good when you talk to them.

The stuff here is aimed at consistently meeting more and more high quality women. For the average guy, once he's got ONE awesome girl, he's usually pretty content to just keep her.
 

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One way of thinking about game and fundamentals is upping your odds. If you have the tightest game and fundamentals in the world, you're still not guaranteed to be able to point to any girl you want and go get her. You just have a higher likelihood of getting her than other guys.

Now, just because a guy doesn't have access to books or videos or website articles that teach him game and show him how to improve his fundamentals doesn't mean he can't have these things on his own. Much of it actually comes down to certain circles you join; e.g., join the right social circle (like a frat, for instance) and some guys will challenge you to go talk to women and see if you can get laid. Guys will goad each other on. If you're in a fashion circle, you'll be constantly working on your appearance. If you're in sales, you learn how to talk to strangers and persuade them to do what you want.

Every guy I've known who was a natural at picking up women decided at some point in his life (usually when he was younger) that he was going to sleep with a lot of women. And then he just focused a lot of his time and energy onto figuring out what he needed to do to get women in bed and how best to alter his appearance and behavior and mannerisms to get laid more consistently.

Many guys with beautiful girlfriends are from higher statuses in their social circles, and when you're higher status you get all kinds of opportunities to upgrade yourself socially, because of the mix of people you have competing for your attention and also competing to best you socially and take your rank. You get continual testing and training to improve at dealing with all manner of social situations.

Another thing to bear in mind is that attractive women are extremely common. Even if you just go by naturally beautiful women - no hair, no makeup, no clothes - you've got something like 5% to 10% of women, maybe? And then if you want to go "hot", that's another 10%, perhaps? Cute, another 10% to 15%? Something like 30% of women are at least passably cute with hair done up and makeup on. That's a pretty large pool to draw from.

One more thing to remember is that while a fair share of the guys who make their way to seduction boards are cool, normal people who are already well-socialized and just looking for another edge, there are also a large number of them who are socially way behind their peers and are coming here not because they want an edge, but because they need to know how they can ever catch up. Learning dating and becoming socialized is a normal human thing, but some people for whatever reason don't learn it, so they end up at a place like GC, struggle for a bit, and (hopefully) eventually crack that nut and start getting results.

At times I wonder how necessary a site like this even is, actually. You see guys writing things like, "I finally lost my virginity! Thank you!" but wouldn't those guys have lost it on their own regardless? Probably. However, it's not an on-off switch; seduction materials are more about giving you a boost or an edge over where you were before (and, optimally, if you work hard enough and smart enough, an edge over most other men), rather than enabling you to access hot girls where you'd never have been able to access them without the materials. Probably, you still would have... just more slowly, in smaller numbers, and at somewhat lower calibers. Think of this stuff as an amplifier of what you have that's already there inside you rather than a superhero cape that gives you totally new abilities.

Chase
 

Drck

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Don't sweat it Chase, this site and material are great, I doubt there is single a guy who wouldn't appreciate it
 
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