How do you help out a guy who has a strict preference when it comes to women?

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: How do you help out a guy who has a strict preference when it comes to women

Love the optimism but objectively speaking, high quality white girls (sorority girls, model types, and blonde bombshells) don't really go for minorities that often and even when they do they go for the ones who have tight fundamentals. Quite frankly, even as a white guy I feel that most of us don't even get a chance with a lot of the top notch girls from our race because they want the best overall (looks, money, status, etc.). Being that he is an overweight pakistani guy, I doubt he is goings stand much of a chance until he gets in shape. I do love your outlook and optimism, you have also have some great posts on this forum as well, but I think that having my friend approach girls that are middle tier and if it comes do it even some of the more trashy ones (trailer parks, etc.) might work towards his benefit because he is getting that experience.

Truth is, attractive white girls know their value. As a white guy, I have had much easier with girls from minority backgrounds as opposed to girls from my own backgrounds. I am sure others here might have had similar experiences.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Re: How do you help out a guy who has a strict preference when it comes to women

Proactivity,

Quite frankly, even as a white guy I feel that most of us don't even get a chance with a lot of the top notch girls from our race because they want the best overall (looks, money, status, etc.).

This is true. I wonder if Chase can add something here.

I find that most girls who are moderately successful or higher in your race tend to not favour you so much if you are in the "lower end". If you are in the "middle", you are somewhat chose according to probability.

I guess this is why most races are dating different races now. Exotic factor, and perhaps even the rejection factor there.

Zac

 

[Richard]

Re: How do you help out a guy who has a strict preference when it comes to women

Love the optimism but objectively speaking, high quality white girls (sorority girls, model types, and blonde bombshells) don't really go for minorities that often and even when they do they go for the ones who have tight fundamentals. Quite frankly, even as a white guy I feel that most of us don't even get a chance with a lot of the top notch girls from our race because they want the best overall (looks, money, status, etc.). Being that he is an overweight pakistani guy, I doubt he is goings stand much of a chance until he gets in shape. I do love your outlook and optimism, you have also have some great posts on this forum as well, but I think that having my friend approach girls that are middle tier and if it comes do it even some of the more trashy ones (trailer parks, etc.) might work towards his benefit because he is getting that experience.

Truth is, attractive white girls know their value. As a white guy, I have had much easier with girls from minority backgrounds as opposed to girls from my own backgrounds. I am sure others here might have had similar experiences.

I wasn't saying starting by approaching the high quality white chicks - just work your way up to them bro. I see my last explanation caused a little misunderstanding because I left something to implication. If your friend has his heart set on white girls only - then his goal should be to eventually get to the bombshells, and the model types. These girls are actually some of the easier girls to pull (though I've got no experience with models largely due to my age and such) but the high quality girls are honestly some of the easiest to pull for several reasons discussed all through the boards and on the main site.

I won't get into that argument/debate/conversation though.

For you friend, and possibly for yourself: set an unrealistic goal (this is something I picked up from Chase). Set a goal that is nearly impossible to achieve because then you step-stone your way to that goal and hit high points along it. For instance, if your highest goal in pick-up is to date a model then you probably won't reach it because it is your highest goal and you'll approach it differently than if your highest goal is to fuck 15 famous movie actresses. If your goal is to get to the movie actresses then you will probably date models and bombshells on your way to the movie stars because they are only steps on the way to your actual goal - so you'll approach them differently.

On the notion of being a Pakistani and not able to pull white women... well... my older brother's friend, Imran, absolutely knocks out the white women executives out here in Chicago. He's got an arrogant and playful attitude naturally and women absolutely go nuts for him. His issue is once he's involved with a chick his game falls to shit.

Just some food for thought.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: How do you help out a guy who has a strict preference when it comes to women

I am of indian heritage, not quite the same as pakistani, and I have managed to do well with white girls. In my own experience I feel that many white girls are actually open to being with a guy that looks indian as long as he isn't chubby, overweight, very nerdy looking, or has the accent. Simply put, white girls on the west coast of the USA at least will be more than happy to hook up with a Kumar from Harold and Kumar but they won't get with an Apu like guy with the heavy accent. Now I am assuming your friend is westernized and if he does not have an accent then there are many white girls who are open to being with guys that look like him. The girls who are into your friend might not be the sorority types but the truth is those girls do not even go for most white guys, they have strict tastes and are a very exclusive group. For some reason, I find that there is less of a taboo when a white girl here in the US hooks up with an indian guy in the sense that most white people do not really mind or care.

What a lot of Asian (this includes indians, koreans, and most east and south asians) and Arabic guys here in the US that like white girls have to understand is that there is a large range of white girls who are open to dating them as long as they are westernized. The problem is that many are recent arrivals so there is a culture gap but Harold and Kumar like guys can do well just about anywhere in the US. Throw some muscle on an asian or indian dude and I promise you that some reasonably good looking white girls are going to try him out.

A lot of white girls haven't dated asian or indian guys because the chance hasn't really presented itself as much. Most asian and brown guys in this country are recent arrivals who haven't had the chance to adjust to American social norms, many come here married, and quite a few are the studious kind that put their studies first and do not bother with sex and love. When you do get an asian or brown guy that has pushed himself into being good looking and can confidently talk to girls, a lot of girls love it. There is no taboo in dating an asian or brown guy and it is something exotic and new to them.

So many asian and brown guys do not realize that once they improve their looks and game, they can play the exotic card and get attractive girls throughout the color spectrum. I have managed to do better than most of my friends and I only know of a handful of guys that get a lot more higher quality girls than me and a few of them have major status (in very popular frats, male models, and college athletes).