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How do you make intangible seduction oriented goals SMART? Eg “Vibe goals”

Skippy

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My focus for this quarter and next is to cultivate a sexual vibe in field. I’ve already found a lot of great resources on this. Eg (link) (link) (link) (link) And I already have a general roadmap of exercises to do and mannerisms to drill. I’ve made it my overall goal for these next few months to “make interactions more man to woman by cultivating a sexual vibe and improving SECT”.

On the other hand, people also suggest that when setting goals, you make them Specific, Actionable, Measurable, Relevant, and Time-bound (SMART) such as “Make 30k in sales revenue from online courses by 2024” or “ Run a mile everyday and lose 20lbs by December 2023”. Meanwhile, having a goal of “ooze sexuality in field” is rather vague. But in seduction, it’s very common and natural to have vague goals like:
  • Build a sexy vibe
  • Make interactions man to woman
  • Work one of the SMMA keys better.
Furthermore, these goals can have different gradations and so it’s not clear whether you’ve actually achieved the goal. For example, "building a sexy vibe" could mean girls are thinking “hmm this guy kind of has a sensual demeanor!” or it could mean “uh oh…this guy’s presence just gets me horny and I wanna tear his clothes off right now!” And of course, it could even be totally different for each girl in how she perceives you.

So how would you guys recommend making goals like this more SMART, specifically in the Measurable category, and how would you know you’ve gotten them to a reasonable level of improvement before going on to focus on other things?
 

Brazerprime

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I am confused why your goal is to "creates a sexy vibe" rather than get tangible results like, "get 5 numbers that don't flake" or "get a girlfriend by X date" etc.... even if you are newer which I am not sure if you are or not it should be more about tangible things. "create sexy vibe" sounds a lot like "be more confident" or something to me, too general.

If you want to make things more man to woman? Yes, work on your intent and escalating. Plenty of resources for that.
 

Glow

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My focus for this quarter and next is to cultivate a sexual vibe in field. I’ve already found a lot of great resources on this. Eg (link) (link) (link) (link) And I already have a general roadmap of exercises to do and mannerisms to drill. I’ve made it my overall goal for these next few months to “make interactions more man to woman by cultivating a sexual vibe and improving SECT”.

On the other hand, people also suggest that when setting goals, you make them Specific, Actionable, Measurable, Relevant, and Time-bound (SMART) such as “Make 30k in sales revenue from online courses by 2024” or “ Run a mile everyday and lose 20lbs by December 2023”. Meanwhile, having a goal of “ooze sexuality in field” is rather vague. But in seduction, it’s very common and natural to have vague goals like:
  • Build a sexy vibe
  • Make interactions man to woman
  • Work one of the SMMA keys better.
Furthermore, these goals can have different gradations and so it’s not clear whether you’ve actually achieved the goal. For example, "building a sexy vibe" could mean girls are thinking “hmm this guy kind of has a sensual demeanor!” or it could mean “uh oh…this guy’s presence just gets me horny and I wanna tear his clothes off right now!” And of course, it could even be totally different for each girl in how she perceives you.

So how would you guys recommend making goals like this more SMART, specifically in the Measurable category, and how would you know you’ve gotten them to a reasonable level of improvement before going on to focus on other things?
The most simple indicator is how well or how many Its on moments or IOMs you can create "on command" or coincidentally via mere presence across the distance or in interaction. Note when it happens and pay attention to the details for these moments and how they naturally occur. Certain energies create this eg when your enter a room more confidently and "in potent action" etc.

In interactions i also measure 1) how much girls escalate on me 2) how girls "invite me" often eg via a softening, inviting change in their body language as we seduce each other. There are many ways girls do this. This is more advanced as most guys cant really see what im talking about nor tempt girls enough for them to turn or touch you to ground themselves from the hormone-releases they experience etc.

be carefull with being to laser targeted with these though as these things have to slowly unveil as you build sensitivity and access to reading what i talk about. Its more something that gradually unveils itself than something you can command initially.
 

Skippy

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The most simple indicator is how well or how many Its on moments or IOMs you can create "on command" or coincidentally via mere presence across the distance or in interaction. Note when it happens and pay attention to the details for these moments and how they naturally occur. Certain energies create this eg when your enter a room more confidently and "in potent action" etc.
Wow...what an elegant and clean way of thinking about it. much appreciated! I'll mull over what these IOMs might look like to get a better picture of them and let it simmer in the background of my consciousness as I interact with more girls. I'm already thinking back to a couple of instances on the approach when the eye contact between me and her was electric like those moments when you are both trancing out and getting lost in each other's eyes. But I'm sure I will discover more examples. Interesting stuff

I am confused why your goal is to "creates a sexy vibe" rather than get tangible results like, "get 5 numbers that don't flake" or "get a girlfriend by X date" etc.... even if you are newer which I am not sure if you are or not it should be more about tangible things. "create sexy vibe" sounds a lot like "be more confident" or something to me, too general.
yea I have tangible goals too. but this is something that many people have told me is currently lacking in my interactions, and it's especially important for me to nail down since I open indirect.
 
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Brazerprime

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yea I have tangible goals too. but this is something that many people have told me is currently lacking in my interactions, and it's especially important for me to nail down since I open indirect.
To me it seems convoluted to "create a sexy vibe" and be opening indirect UNLESS you are already getting good results with it.

Why not just open direct and this "sexy vibe" is way less important? I have never found indirect open to be that effective whatsoever unless you are already a physically attractive guy already..
 

Chase

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@Skippy,

Depending on how you meet girls you'll want to adjust these goals, but if you want measurable ones, some rough targets:


BEFORE APPROACH:
  • 5% of good-looking girls you make eye contact with give 3+ strong AIs (brushing their hair back hard, glancing at you multiple times, glancing and smiling, arching their backs, straightening their clothes, moving closer toward you, etc.)

ON APPROACH:
  • 8% of girls giving big smiles + ready compliance on the open

  • 15% of opened girls hook within the first 2 minutes

AFTER THE HOOK POINT:
  • 25% of hooked girls actively escalate touch on you so long as you lead (escalate to that point on them first)

  • 15% of hooked girls will not leave your side pretty much unless it’s Armageddon

  • 20%+ of hooked girls will venue change or pull with you after 20 minutes of talk

AT YOUR PLACE:
  • 50% of pulled girls go right into kissing/escalation with minimal LMR within 10 minutes of arriving home (following the 10-Minute Kiss Rule)

  • Among pulled girls who give LMR, majority of complaints are lack of comfort/trust (not lack of spark/arousal), and majority of these you’re through within ~25 minutes because the girl is too turned on

There if you want them. Of course, other factors will influence these things as well, but sexiness plays a big role in all the above.

That said, I'm with @Glow on measuring this stuff, personally. Never bothered much with going by numbers... you can tell overall when girls start generally reacting more excited to you, throwing open more windows to you, acting more compliant with you, and just making the whole thing easier. It's pretty noticeable.

Chase
 

Skippy

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@Chase Makes sense, especially the LMR! but yeah this paints a clearer picture of what it might look like at each step and I'll keep these as a rough guideline for when I reflect on how I'm coming along.

Thanks!
 
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