How important is college education in having high-quality people in life?

[Sub-Zero]

I plan to do the same thing. Just in case business doesn't work out, what would be plan b with our English degrees? There has to be something we could learn or do in case.

Gotcha. Noted on tuition fees. Well, that's extremely reasonable, assuming you're middle class Indian or above (sounds like you are).

In these 3 years I plan to go from skinny to normal. Eating right these days and have gained about 4 pounds I guess. Also, hopefully learn some piano and visit 2 or 3 countries. Develop my social abilities. Even if my business doesn't do too well after 3 years (I hope the opposite, of course, but I know I'm a lazy bastard), I plan to be a far better version of myself in all other areas.

Sounds like a great plan. You should put these next three years to very good use, then, if you stick to that.

Chase

 

[Chase]

I plan to do the same thing. Just in case business doesn't work out, what would be plan b with our English degrees? There has to be something we could learn or do in case.

Teach? Starbucks barista?

Other than teaching jobs or working at coffee shops, I really don't know. I've said on here before, and it's plastered all over the Internet, English and psychology are the two worst major degrees you can go for if employment is the goal.

You knew that before you signed up for that degree, SZ.

It's like the guy who asks you how to get a girl back. And tells you he's thinking of texting her how he feels about her. And you tell him "Look, no matter what you do, DO NOT text her your feelings. Instead do X, Y, Z." Then he comes back to you and says "Chase I didn't do what you said, instead I texted her my feelings for her BUT NOW SHE DOESN'T RESPOND TO MY CALLS OR TEXTS WHAT SHOULD I DO?"

If you want to ignore my advice, that's fine - I'm not your Dad.

By the same coin, if you are going to do the thing I told you not to do if your aim is Q, and then come back and tell me you did exactly what I told you not to do, and now you can't get Q, so what should you do to get Q?

Well, only thing I can tell you is hop in your time machine, go back in time, and give your old self a good slap in the face.

Maybe when you get back you'll return to a different timeline, like Marty McFly in Back to the Future, or Wolverine in that X-Man movie where he finally got a happy ending before they killed him off in the next one. That's my best suggestion for the ignored-Chase's-advice-now-want-Chase's-advice-on-how-to-succeed-in-the-"I-ignored-Chase's-advice"-scenario situation.

Chase

 

[sneaky_charm]

Hey Sub-Zero,

The reason I chose English is because a career isn't my goal. In India, however, you can appear in various exams after getting a Bachelor's in English, like banking, government officials etc. If you clear all the phases of an exam, you get the job. I'm assuming you are from the US, so that may not be an option.

Another reason I chose to become an online entrepreneur is because I have no dependants. I've accepted that if things don't go well I may end up becoming a waiter or a mall attendant. Does that bother me? Yes. But, my parents should be able to survive with their retirement money, and I have a sibling who is getting by on his own. So, even if I fail, I have my whole life to experiment and keep trying. Think of life as a video game and play it to the best of my ability. But, you may not have that luxury.

Another thing is that I do not plan to marry. Now Chase and a teacher of mine have said that we don't know what we'll want in the future. Still, I'm pretty certain that I'll stick to my goal of never marrying. Two main reasons are Indian law has no provision for a prenup, and I do not want to give birth to children who never chose to be born themselves, in a world that is mostly uncertain and overpopulated. So if I go down, I go down alone. I'll not take anyone down with me.

If a career is your goal and you still have time to switch, and having a financially stable family is something you want to do, perhaps choosing a practical major may work in your favor.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Hey Chase, I didn't select english as my major yet, I already tried for a stem degree and had to drop it because I failed some classes already. Plus they wanted me to take many more math classes and more classes that I had to take before, plus remedial math ones. I would be in school for probably 5-6 more years, it would be like I never went to college at all.

I saw some online courses I could take that can give me careers, I plan on doing those as well while in university. I also plan to work on creating online income while there too.

Also there's no way I was going to pass those math classes, I already failed so many times for this one math class that I can't take it anymore, I spent a lot of time and money just to fail those classes.

I'm already hating how old I am, could you imagine being in school as a grown man for 5-6 more years ? And also I might not even pass those math classes like I tried to before. I actually spent an extra year in school because I flunked those math classes.

I tried man, and I feel any degree is better than none. The English degree I was going for was in technical writing, I don't know if you heard of it or anything? You write technical manuals for engineers and describing technical terms to consumers.

Other than that there are no majors that I can complete because they all require advance math, plus extra classes I had no idea I had to take, I'm talking about accounting, finance, etc. I'll be in school forever, I might just flunk out of the same math classes I flunked out already again.

I've looked up and down for majors that I could do and the only ones are the crappy majors. I might be able to do public health ? Have you heard anything about that ?

I can't think of anything else I can do. I can go into trade school after, but I still want the degree I've been working on for years.

I plan to do the same thing. Just in case business doesn't work out, what would be plan b with our English degrees? There has to be something we could learn or do in case.

Teach? Starbucks barista?

Other than teaching jobs or working at coffee shops, I really don't know. I've said on here before, and it's plastered all over the Internet, English and psychology are the two worst major degrees you can go for if employment is the goal.

You knew that before you signed up for that degree, SZ.

It's like the guy who asks you how to get a girl back. And tells you he's thinking of texting her how he feels about her. And you tell him "Look, no matter what you do, DO NOT text her your feelings. Instead do X, Y, Z." Then he comes back to you and says "Chase I didn't do what you said, instead I texted her my feelings for her BUT NOW SHE DOESN'T RESPOND TO MY CALLS OR TEXTS WHAT SHOULD I DO?"

If you want to ignore my advice, that's fine - I'm not your Dad.

By the same coin, if you are going to do the thing I told you not to do if your aim is Q, and then come back and tell me you did exactly what I told you not to do, and now you can't get Q, so what should you do to get Q?

Well, only thing I can tell you is hop in your time machine, go back in time, and give your old self a good slap in the face.

Maybe when you get back you'll return to a different timeline, like Marty McFly in Back to the Future, or Wolverine in that X-Man movie where he finally got a happy ending before they killed him off in the next one. That's my best suggestion for the ignored-Chase's-advice-now-want-Chase's-advice-on-how-to-succeed-in-the-"I-ignored-Chase's-advice"-scenario situation.

Chase

 

[Sub-Zero]

I wish I could man, my terrible math skills are what hinder me with any good majors. I'm pretty much have getting a degree to finish what I started and will go the entrepreneurial route as well. If all else fails trade school. It sucks that so much time has passed and I worked hard just to flunk out of classes.

Hey Sub-Zero,

The reason I chose English is because a career isn't my goal. In India, however, you can appear in various exams after getting a Bachelor's in English, like banking, government officials etc. If you clear all the phases of an exam, you get the job. I'm assuming you are from the US, so that may not be an option.

Another reason I chose to become an online entrepreneur is because I have no dependants. I've accepted that if things don't go well I may end up becoming a waiter or a mall attendant. Does that bother me? Yes. But, my parents should be able to survive with their retirement money, and I have a sibling who is getting by on his own. So, even if I fail, I have my whole life to experiment and keep trying. Think of life as a video game and play it to the best of my ability. But, you may not have that luxury.

Another thing is that I do not plan to marry. Now Chase and a teacher of mine have said that we don't know what we'll want in the future. Still, I'm pretty certain that I'll stick to my goal of never marrying. Two main reasons are Indian law has no provision for a prenup, and I do not want to give birth to children who never chose to be born themselves, in a world that is mostly uncertain and overpopulated. So if I go down, I go down alone. I'll not take anyone down with me.

If a career is your goal and you still have time to switch, and having a financially stable family is something you want to do, perhaps choosing a practical major may work in your favor.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Yeah, I understand why you said what you said, but I looked up the major and it's English with a concentration of professional writing, and technology. I looked up what careers I could get with this specific degree and technical writer was listed.

Here's the information and career:


https://www.bls.gov/ooh/media-and-commu ... riters.htm

"A college degree is usually required for a position as a technical writer. In addition, experience with a technical subject, such as computer science, Web design, or engineering, is important.

Education:
Employers generally prefer candidates with a bachelor’s degree in journalism, English, or communications. Many technical writing jobs require both a degree and knowledge in a specialized field, such as engineering, computer science, or medicine. Web design experience also is helpful because of the growing use of online technical documentation."


I looked up what I needed to do to become one and it said to have a bachelor's in English and to have a technical background, which I'm getting certificates and taking courses for on the side.

I understand why you said what you said because it sounds like I'm majoring in a useless major and not trying to become a teacher is pointless. It looks like I'm just picking a major w ith no plan, but I'm planning man.

I did some research, I'll inquire more about this degree to know the possibilities of becoming a technical writer with this degree.

I do take your advice seriously Chase, and I did try the stem route, and I already had to get out another class before I failed out of school and lose all my scholarships and grants, if I keep dropping classes or keep failing them I'll lose all of grants and scholarships, at least this isn't out of pocket. If you still feel it's useless let me know, maybe I can try to find something else.

I'm just explaining all of this because I do take your advice as important.

I plan to do the same thing. Just in case business doesn't work out, what would be plan b with our English degrees? There has to be something we could learn or do in case.

Teach? Starbucks barista?

Other than teaching jobs or working at coffee shops, I really don't know. I've said on here before, and it's plastered all over the Internet, English and psychology are the two worst major degrees you can go for if employment is the goal.

You knew that before you signed up for that degree, SZ.

It's like the guy who asks you how to get a girl back. And tells you he's thinking of texting her how he feels about her. And you tell him "Look, no matter what you do, DO NOT text her your feelings. Instead do X, Y, Z." Then he comes back to you and says "Chase I didn't do what you said, instead I texted her my feelings for her BUT NOW SHE DOESN'T RESPOND TO MY CALLS OR TEXTS WHAT SHOULD I DO?"

If you want to ignore my advice, that's fine - I'm not your Dad.

By the same coin, if you are going to do the thing I told you not to do if your aim is Q, and then come back and tell me you did exactly what I told you not to do, and now you can't get Q, so what should you do to get Q?

Well, only thing I can tell you is hop in your time machine, go back in time, and give your old self a good slap in the face.

Maybe when you get back you'll return to a different timeline, like Marty McFly in Back to the Future, or Wolverine in that X-Man movie where he finally got a happy ending before they killed him off in the next one. That's my best suggestion for the ignored-Chase's-advice-now-want-Chase's-advice-on-how-to-succeed-in-the-"I-ignored-Chase's-advice"-scenario situation.

Chase

 

[Chase]

Ah, gotcha. In that case, it does sound like you've done your homework, SZ. I got the impression you were going for some generic "read Shakespeare for 4 years then try to get a job" English degree (not to knock Shakespeare; Shakespeare is excellent).

I don't know a whole lot about technical writing, so not sure what the career prospects are like for that.

But if you're getting the degree, and getting yourself trained up in whatever area you want to be a technical writer for (computers, engineering, etc.), my guess is you ought to be able to find something, career-wise.

Chase

 

[sneaky_charm]

So I went to college today for the first time. There are 4 girls in my class who are above 3 or close. Quality is terrible here in India, as Chase noted in his article about different regions around the world. Sure, quality gets better in big cities, but unfortunately, I'm not in one. But, I've basically given up on quality, and planning to practice with any girl who has a face that doesn't hurt my eyes and is not too skinny or too fat.

One of the girls I already knew. We were in the same High School. Also, about 30 days before I saw her and got her number. After texting back and forth, I called her 2 different days and got no response. So, sent a Hail Mary text, which was positive and upbeat. Didn't text her anything at all after that. I didn't know she was in the same class. I was friendly toward her and she was toward me. While leaving class, I touched her on the upper arm and said bye. She gave me a smile, but it seemed polite. So perhaps touching was too much too soon. Will need to calibrate better.

Anyway, I'm now having trouble with my strategy. I'm thinking of not trying for casual hookups, and take up short-term girlfriends instead. Ethics is the main issue here. In the new thread the issue is described a bit more:

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