How important is the truth?

[Ree]

Heheheh...just read a post of a 105 year old virgin...the story had a moral that had a bunch of seducers feeling warm and fuzzy .....
Up until chase came and revealed the story to be a hoax...
Got me wondering how important is the truth?
Should u always tell the truth just because it is the truth...or only when it benefits humankind ?
If u knew God doesn't exist,should u spread the word?
There are people living in islands who worship plane wrecks as gods(google cargo cults),is it our responsibility to disenchant them?
In my country the u.s embassy decided not to reveal election results coz it may lead to fighting ..is this ethical?
As humans
Do u have a moral obligation to reveal the truth..or should u only ever do it when itl help?

 

[Drck]

But what is truth? And How much of it you want to disclose?

You can always see the same thing differently, depending on your mind set.

Say you are a guy who decides to become a seducer. You go out and approach 100 girls. You get 30 numbers, you call and call, you get 20 responses. 10 girls will go for a date, 5 girls are good vibes, and you get laid 2 times.

You meet your best friend and he asks: are you a great seducer?

Mindset A: No, I am a miserable failure, I got laid only 2x times out of 100, I got rejected 98 times... I failed and I will fail again...

Mindset B: Yes, I am a great seducer, I'm a winner because I just slept with 2 girls in one weekend, and the 98 other girls are just unlucky because they have no clue what they miss... Next week I will win again...

Both have the same numbers, but the "truth" is presented totally differently - while one guy appears as the worst loser, the other already looks like a good seducer...

What if a girl that you just met, and you really like her, asks you the same question - will you answer exactly the same way? Will you just throw the numbers at her, saying that she is just one number out of one hundred...?

So what's the truth, how do you want to disclose it, and how much of it do you want to reveal...?

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Another way to look at it is seriousness. Perhaps you want to be truthful but at the same time you may not want to be too serious about it. Watch how you present the truth differently:

The guy meet that hot girl:

Mindset A: Yea, I'm really trying to be in a serious relationship for two years already, but those girls I met weren't really interested much... Before I had a GF, but she slept with my best friend... (Now she hears that he is a serious loser and no girl wants to be with him. He must have broken heart, He didn't get laid two years, he is not a leader, his own best friend disrespects him... How much more boring this guy can be?)

Mindset B: Yea, I've met couple of quite interesting girls recently, some magical things happened but no big deal... I'm really looking for that one special and exciting girl ... (Now she hears that he is an interesting guy who likes to surprise girls with some magic shit. Cool. He got laid couple times recently so girls must like him, but he doesn't take the relationship too seriously - she doesn't have to worry about breaking his heart if it doesn't work out... and, she has to find out if she is that special girl in his eyes... If not, she can just have sex and walk away, no feelings hurt... This guy is so exciting!)

Same truth, two different presentations, one hundred different interpretations...


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IMO being truthful is good though, at least you don't have to remember all the lies... and if you can present it in more optimistic and exciting way, good for you...

 

[Ree]

Very philosophical
,I have a girl who flat out asks...are u sleeping with other women.?
Now I know that I should tell the truth ,(because it's right,right?)
But I also know that the truth will hurt her,
How would you deal with this?

 

[Drck]

It depends on what kind of girl.

If she is just silly/cute/sexy that I don't really care about, and the conversation is rather light, maybe something like: "Yea, but it depends what day of the week you are talking about". It's rather more flirty approach, while not telling her exactly yes or no. Ideally she laughs, considers it as a good answer and don't ask any more.

If the conversation is more serious and she is a potential keeper, I would get more serious, maybe something like "I've been in relationships but currently not" (trying to avoid the direct answer, while remaining truthful). It's more puzzling answer, and she may follow up on it with another question. Which means she is also serious about potential relationship, so if she digs further into it I would tell the truth. You can also counter-ask the same question, see what she answers.

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It also depends on your personality and overall frame that you have. For example, if you are just trying to sleep with girls left and right and don' t really care about relationships, you can simply portray yourself as a man-whore, without overly advertising it. Those who are interested will stay, those who are not will leave...

 

[Chase]

Ree-

I have a girl who flat out asks...are u sleeping with other women.?
Now I know that I should tell the truth ,(because it's right,right?)
But I also know that the truth will hurt her,
How would you deal with this?

"I would NEVER do that!" [smile slyly]

Or if she's really going to press you on it and a playful response does not seem suitable, just tell her, "Baby, no other person will affect how I feel about you, how I treat you, or our relationship, ever." If she asks again, repeat it. If she asks again after that, repeat it again. Etc.

As for the truth, it's better to be honest when you can. But even Confucius discusses that a rigid code of "always be honest, no matter what" can lead to wrong action depending on the situation - for instance, if Nazi soldiers on the hunt for Jews enter a building housing Jews and ask, "Are there any Jews here?" The man with the inflexible code must answer "yes" and let innocent people die for his code, but the man who's truly focused on dynamic harmony is able to lie when needed to do what is right.

The better question than, "How important is the truth?" is, "How do I know what the right thing to do is?"

Chase