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DarkKnight

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Guys, I have trouble with sometimes figuring if I need to re-engage a girl. The trouble is never with girls who first were cold or distant, when they tend to become very into me for whatever reason a couple of months later I see that as alright, because it shows they have found value in me. Sometimes they go head over heels.

I find the most difficult type of girl whether I should re-engage or not when a girl has already acted very shifty. For instance one broad, who probably is not everyones cup of tea.. but smoking hot for me, gave me very clear AI after we stared eachother for a long time (I could not engage her until I finally could). But when I engaged her and I barely said anything she already acted evasive like and walked away with her girlfriend, so I figured she is probably shy or something. Not assuming malice. Also saw beforehand that she kept an eye on my interaction with other girls.

Next time I see her, I engage her again, hell I re-engaged her three times. But she simply would not invest and acted with rapport breaks, so I get bored of her and also show it with my bodylanguage and midconvo walk off. This is the takeaway, which was even a bit overdue.

Next time I see her outside I see her staring at me very pensively and obviously disturbed,, she goes to the same bar as I am and I notice she feels uncomfortable but I dont engage her anymore but instead kind of torture her with being very close with my other female girlfriends lol. I mean I gave her 4 swings, ought to be enough persistence

Then I saw her a year later, recently and when she saw me she looked very obsessed like and I didnt think much of it because of previous experience. But when she was about to exit the venue she had the same blank but very obviously looking at me expression and I am talking like very long. Also if I approached her here it would break law of least effort, I could do it, but didnt feel she deserved it after the runaround she gave me.

So it becomes damned if I do, damned if I dont,

How do you guys tackle such scenarios?

Girls who were cold/dismissive/rude -> who switch to warm later on are pretty straightforward. I would even say that with these you have a limited escalation window because they get mad. They tend to become very hot for you. So autorejection is right around the corner

Girls who give the runaround , keep erecting walls but then again start to act obsessed are like a carrot before the horse..

Would you guys have made another attempt or just let it go no matter the nonverbal staring behavior. Not gonna lie the sexual tension between her and me when I encountered her first time were off the charts.
 
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DarkKnight

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A girl that rejected you one day or 1 week it can be game next day, next week or even hours later and vice versa...

I have even in cuddling post fuck brought up previous rejections... Some don't even remember...
Okay so you pretty mouch when a girl gives an AI again, always re-engage?

If you do it, I should do it
 

DarkKnight

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I am not scared of rejection just trying to be careful with not over validating other person

But ill be a bit more loose I think it would benefit me
 
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DarkKnight

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@Chase Chase can you get back to this as well?

I am in particular struggling with girls who give strong AIs, act evasive, then I act evasive and talk to other girls, and then I get another AI, but again barely a real interaction or hook ,which belies the AI.

And then when I next these girls they get obsessive with very overt staring, but I am trying to not get baited. Basically it feels like these types try to give the run around but are persistent with baiting.

There is one chick with who I felt huge sexual attraction but it fizzled out due to her acting evasive despite that she hovered for me (I barely said a word yet), next time I saw her she didnt hook at all and made attempt to give me heads up that she is about to leave . I disqualified her nonverbally and just walked. Now she keeps staring at me puzzled and stressed out.

It would be great to fuck her 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Then I saw her a year later, recently and when she saw me she looked very obsessed like and I didnt think much of it because of previous experience. But when she was about to exit the venue she had the same blank but very obviously looking at me expression and I am talking like very long. Also if I approached her here it would break law of least effort, I could do it, but didnt feel she deserved it after the runaround she gave me.

So it becomes damned if I do, damned if I dont,

How do you guys tackle such scenarios?

Girls who were cold/dismissive/rude -> who switch to warm later on are pretty straightforward. I would even say that with these you have a limited escalation window because they get mad. They tend to become very hot for you. So autorejection is right around the corner

Girls who give the runaround , keep erecting walls but then again start to act obsessed are like a carrot before the horse..

Would you guys have made another attempt or just let it go no matter the nonverbal staring behavior. Not gonna lie the sexual tension between her and me when I encountered her first time were off the charts.
I wouldn't put too much mental investment into her, and would focus on other girls.

She's probably attracted to you, but remembers some of the emotions of whenever she lost attraction / came close to auto-rejection whenever that happened.

This is social circle so just continue to build your preselection.

You're also at a huge disadvantage since you haven't fucked her... but that's another reason that I wouldn't put too much mental energy into this one girl.

It sounds like you don't even have her number, but she knows your girl friends well and you go to the same spots?

Let her see you clearly together with an 8 or 9 and be a mix of polite and aloof to her. See how she changes her tune.
 

DarkKnight

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t sounds like you don't even have her number, but she knows your girl friends well and you go to the same spots?
Yeah man forget about number barely a decent interaction. I had not seen this same broad for an entire year, but when I saw her she immediately recognized me and stared very obsessively , then when she left the venue she did it again like this long obvious stare but due to the bad history and because I do not like to be taken for a fool I just let it go

She's probably attracted to you, but remembers some of the emotions of whenever she lost attraction / came close to auto-rejection whenever that happened.
We definitely had a bad end where I snubbed her for not playing ball.

So Hue if she was attracted why did she evade me despite giving an AI. She gave me the feeling that she wanted to play the field, but I dont like to stick around in orbit.. especially when nothing even really happened

About seeing me with an 8, she did, last time I saw her last year. But because she didnt play ball twice I decided to snub her further, that was the last impression I left her

But your saying she has mixed feelings and autorejection, which makes sense. I can do way too strong takeaways hence this post

But also from the very start there has been very strong sexual electricity between us.
 
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Chase

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@DarkKnight,

There is a very simple way to balance this:

just trying to be careful with not over validating other person

with this:

Also if I approached her here it would break law of least effort, I could do it, but didnt feel she deserved it after the runaround she gave me.

to take advantage of this:

Next time I see her outside I see her staring at me very pensively and obviously disturbed
Then I saw her a year later, recently and when she saw me she looked very obsessed like and I didnt think much of it because of previous experience. But when she was about to exit the venue she had the same blank but very obviously looking at me expression and I am talking like very long.

The solution is this:


HER: [staring]​
YOU: [return eye contact, smile, wave her over]​
HER: [either comes over to you or does the same huffy ignoring thing; no skin off your nose either way]​

Chase
 

DarkKnight

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Honestly in hindsight I DID consider this. But it was hindsight. Now I will make this mandatory

Thank you Chase
 
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What I really liked about this theard is that no one said " Dude, replace. She is just looking for validation". There are some really game discussion here.
 

DarkKnight

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What I really liked about this theard is that no one said " Dude, replace. She is just looking for validation". There are some really game discussion here.
Not gonna lie sometimes I feel a bit of hesitance about posting because we get that shit from time to time, but I think the board has matured quite a bit.

And yes replacing.. I never get stuck on one girl but sometimes you encounter someone who is different than the mass you engage, in this case ideal body type and you sense there is actually strong attraction from the other but for whatever reason not easily accesible and that can be frustrating

I also think people dont neg me in this post because they know I am active and not stuck on one girl instead of some new guy who makes a thread in order to salvage some one itis situation

Also some members never listen to advice, and disregarding Chase advice in particular is very ungrateful I think in most situations
 

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And yes replacing.. I never get stuck on one girl but sometimes you encounter someone who is different than the mass you engage, in this case ideal body type and you sense there is actually strong attraction from the other but for whatever reason not easily accesible and that can be frustrating
Not only about how different she is, but also about increasing the winning rate and ability to handle various situations. In sales, if you have a diffcult or different client, you figure out ways to win him over. You do not just write him off.

I agree with you. You profile made a difference on thread.

Speaking of the board, I went through mASF archive, the quality of response and depth of analysis is something else.
 
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