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PrettyDecent

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Thanks, Franco. That was exactly what I was looking for :).
 

Grand Pooba

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PrettyDecent said:
Thanks, Franco. That was exactly what I was looking for :).

Ditto.

Franco said:
I discovered GC last year when I was 24 and I am currently 25, so you are not far behind at all =). As a matter of fact, I think the perfect age to begin learning this stuff is at 18, when you are "legally of age," able to venture off on your own, and don't have to worry about the stress of the massive social circle that is high school. I wish I could have started reading this blog back then, but I'm just glad I was able to come across it at a time when I really needed it. But what's great about the material is that it really can be learned at almost any significant period in your life; it's just a matter of putting the effort and time toward it that it takes to become good at it.

OK, this was definitely motivational and also makes me feel a little more confident about not being behind on times. I thought about it and realize that things could be worse for me...I could have never found this (discovered at age 24 as well, and now I'm 26), and I could still be making the same mistakes as before. I remember when I was 21 or 22 I used to be perfectly fine with dry spells as long as a year (longest was ~500 days), or just 1-2 partners a year, and I'm angry with myself for being so unmotivated back then to do anything about it and learn how to improve. But better late than never.

Franco said:
I'm very passionate about being good at the things I WANT to be good at. When I was presented with this website and the opportunity to finally understand what women wanted, I had a driving desire to make it happen, regardless of how long it would take. You must absolutely believe and trust that the material works deep down. I've already mentioned to Chase that an article should be written about this, but you really need to BELIEVE that this stuff works and that it IS what women really want. You can tell the difference between the members who have success here and the ones who don't: the ones who are having success knew from the beginning the material was correct. So whenever they failed to get a girl, they blamed it on THEMSELVES rather than the material.

This was so very helpful, for pointing out 1. driving/passionate desire to be good (play to win); and 2. believing and trusting the material--errors stem from improper execution and not misguided material.

Franco said:
You have to be extremely upset with yourself when you fail to reach each of your short-term goals. I would come home from several of the first few weekends literally yelling at myself things such as, "WHY didn't you approach that girl? You had GREAT eye contact and she obviously wanted to talk to you, but you didn't man up! Fuck this! I WILL NOT let this shit happen next weekend!"

I remember Chase writing something similar in his "Effort Aversion" article, about having consequences/punishment for failing to achieve some kind of milestone--"I will not go home until I talk to 8 women today," or whatever.

I wonder though, is there a point or purpose to being upset with yourself when failing to achieve some of the harder milestones? I'm thinking of things like LMR, or pulling a girl home. I figure that goals like approaching become relatively easy due to extensive supply of girls to talk to, but some of the harder opportunities come fewer and far between, with less room for error and experimentation.

Franco said:
You can't be happy with anything less than success -- never settle for less.
 

Franco

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I wonder though, is there a point or purpose to being upset with yourself when failing to achieve some of the harder milestones? I'm thinking of things like LMR, or pulling a girl home.

The only purpose of being upset with yourself is to motivate yourself to go back out and try again until you succeed. You don't want to get upset with yourself in the sense that you feel like you're too incompetent or that you feel like you'll never be better -- that won't get you anywhere.

Whatever source of motivation you want to use to pick yourself up and try again is fine with me. I just found that being angry with myself for not executing correctly was usually my biggest source of motivation, although I am also a perfectionist in many respects, so lack of success usually irritates me in general until I can achieve it. =)

- Franco
 

The Tool

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I found this over a year ago and was at the peak of my game in 5 months without any previous knowledge or ideals besides "how to be an alpha male" (book I read 1 month prior to this site)
 

trashKENNUT

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I have been studying game since i was 16. After my first humiliation with a girl. but i always been fascinated by the nuance of social interaction since i was very young. Why people smile and whether it's real or not. Something not many people are fond of.

I found GIrlschase in mid 2012. It has been a rollercoaster ride for me, On and off relationships, meeting new women and people.

LEarn and encounter a lot of stuff, fun stuff, tears, epiphanies :)

Zac
 

wesley24

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one week three days and am starting the Newbie Assignment tomorrow, , it's hard just starting out I'm still nerves.
 

Mr. Wes

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I've been aware of pua and seduction as early as 7th grade when Mystery had this show on VH1 about pickup. It was a reality show where the guys would get knocked off on by one until there was a winner.
After that, I googled thi gs here and there.
"how to get a girlfriend"
"how to get a girl to like you"
"what do girls like" yadda yadda...
I've always been applying stuff I read in my everyday interactions with girls I had crushes on and I was absolutely obsessed with having a girlfriend.
I finally got my first girlfriend my sophomore year in highschool 2009-2010 and we broke up in 2011. I was devastated and I wanted her back so I went to Google again with "how to get your girlfriend back"
I was pathetic. I was moving from site to site being drawn in by these videos that promised to teach me some "secret technique" and then when the video would end, they'd start telling me some ridiculous price.
I kept searching all through the rest of my junior year (while simultaneously getting over my ex) and I think I stumbled upon Chase's "how to get your girlfriend back" in early 2012. Read through it. Realized I found a gold mine and read just about every article in the suggestions.
By that time I was completely over my ex and I realized how annoying and unattractive she really was.
After that I had a few flings while reading and then decided to get serious after my graduation day.
May 2012- bagan cold approaching. Complimented girls then walked away after they said Thankyou.
June 2012- doing the same thing
July 2012- same thing but started asking for numbers.
August- same but started realizing girls won't give me their number if I hadn't made a connection. Or they'd just give me a fake one.
September 2012- started community college. Approached girls on campus every now and then.
October 2012- same
November 2012- same. Started seeing results, getting numbers. Started deep diving.
December 2012- joined the forum community. Practiced deep diving with a girl I met on tumblr who lived half-way around the world. Skyped with her every morning and every night and practiced sex talk and turning her on.
January 2013- got really needy and scared her away. Started next semester of school. Regularly approached on campus.
Feb- same
March- same
April- same. Got first date. Messed up date with lack of knowledge and neediness.
May- got a second date, didn't go through to lay.
June- got third date, fingered a girl in my room when my mom wasn't home. Didn't get lay, anxiety.
July- took a break from GC and worked my ass off.
August- same
September- same then came back to GC after quitting my job. Regularly approached on campus for new semester.
October- same
November- same
December 2013- here we are now. I'm more experienced than when I first started but I haven't gotten that first lay yet or lost my virginity. Maybe 2014 will be different.
The main problem is logistics and me just making excuses.
I figured I live in a really negative atmosphere. (my home and this town) so in November I joined the military so I can travel and gain some freedom.
 
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