How many 40 year old daygamers on here?

[bgwh]

Hello all, I've been lurking since the old ASF days, before PUA was a coined term. Only getting serious about cold-approach stuff now... Did a lot of googling, can't seem to find any folks around forums or anyone to get inspired by or follow.

I've seen mentions that there are members or guys doing well at 40+, but it's always a passing reference? Google found me one dude who blogged from 40 to 49, but his blog is just ramblings. Are FRs still a thing? I'd love to get inspired reading some by other 40+ year olds. Any tips, suggestions, ideas?

 

[gameboy]

Not in my forties anymore, but I'm here!

Can't say I'm seeing lots of results yet from day game. But I'm back to approaching regularly and having a blast!

I wish I had started this at 40. But I got myself a girlfriend at that age which threw me off track. Should have known better :/

Other members: Off the top of my head there's also @CasanovaNewhouse and @ZenRising. And of course @Skills, I think he's around my age and doing good.

 

[Higher]

Im 41 and daygaming regularly, and im loving this.

Hands down the hardest thing i ever did for multiple reasons, with wild ups and downs especially at the beginning, but i gained immense value out of it, even regardless of women. Just imagine introverted, insecure nerd turned socially calibrated chance-taker.

Overcoming my limiting beliefs was for me the biggest challenge (and sometimes still is).

 

[bgwh]

@gameboy / @Higher = Nice journals. I didn't notice mention on openers. What do you typically say as first line?

 

[Higher]

I typically go info or (better) ask her to take a pic of me, then i quickly transition to a compliment to make the intent clear. (Sometimes my compliment is not "strong" enough, this is something im working on.)

Rarely i go direct when i get blatant iois. But even in this case, i still prefer to go indirect most of the time. I find that even attracted girls feel a bit too much pressure when approached direct.

 

[bgwh]

I typically go info or (better) ask her to take a pic of me, then i quickly transition to a compliment to make the intent clear. (Sometimes my compliment is not "strong" enough, this is something im working on.)

Rarely i go direct when i get blatant iois. But even in this case, i still prefer to go indirect most of the time. I find that even attracted girls feel a bit too much pressure when approached direct.

Thanks. Yeah, that's why I was asking, I think at our age direct doesn't make sense. And this is coming from a guy who was a direct-game "disciple" back in the old direct vs indirect wars. Done tons of direct, too much even.

Would you mind giving me more examples aside from asking her to take a pic?

 

[gameboy]

Not sure what part of my journal you read, but I talk a lot about openers there. At least in the recent entries form this month.

 

[Higher]

Would you mind giving me more examples aside from asking her to take a pic?

Yeah, i might ask here where "that famous coffee place" or X monument is.

Not saying this is ur case, but some time ago (and still happens once in a while) i used to fixate on the opener. I wanted it to sound like i really needed the info, so i would try to concoct a situation where it would have sounded believable (eg. not standing in front of X monument and then asking a girl where X monument is).

Unfortunately (and unsurprisingly) this led me to wasting precious time and opportunities. Not only because u have to be quick and go with the flow in this game, but also because the more time u waste without showing intent, the harder it is to get to the point.

It was like being "too invested" in the thing.

Now i usually do a more intentful opener. Still indirect, but then i switch very quickly and with a big smile to a compliment as in, hey btw, gotta tell u, i love ur style/ure cute/whatever. Sometimes even just the eye contact and tone of voice will be enough - some girls immediately get the message, and will either leave politely, or try hard not to smile while u look at them straight in the eyes.

This is to say that the opener doesnt really matter. Its just a buffer for the actually statement of intent that comes later (like a ping in texting). It can be anything really, as long as its asked calmly and "with presence".

 

[Skills]

Not in my forties anymore, but I'm here!

Can't say I'm seeing lots of results yet from day game. But I'm back to approaching regularly and having a blast!

I wish I had started this at 40. But I got myself a girlfriend at that age which threw me off track. Should have known better :/

Other members: Off the top of my head there's also @CasanovaNewhouse and @ZenRising. And of course @Skills, I think he's around my age and doing good.

I am not a day gamer per se, chase is on his 40s....

 

[James D]

Chase is 41 I think.

 

[Skills]

Zardoz aka tony d. And karea and gun

 

[isildur1]

Think Tom Torero had many clients in their 50s-60s that still got results regularly. Using your age and experience can useful for hooking women as life experience is an extremely attractive asset to have.

 

[bgwh]

Think Tom Torero had many clients in their 50s-60s that still got results regularly. Using your age and experience can useful for hooking women as life experience is an extremely attractive asset to have.

I've heard this and similar stuff, but I am specifically looking for FRs/journals for inspiration.

 

[Warped Mindless]

Think Tom Torero had many clients in their 50s-60s that still got results regularly. Using your age and experience can useful for hooking women as life experience is an extremely attractive asset to have.

Random but are you the same “isildur1” from the poker community?

 

[isildur1]

I've heard this and similar stuff, but I am specifically looking for FRs/journals for inspiration.

mindful-masculinity.org/2023/11/06/do-men-really-have-more-time-than-women-in-the-sexual-market-place

honestly the best thing you can do is find wingmen for motivation and be proactive and get out there approaching:

The Importance of Good Wingman to those Starting out on their Seduction Journey

Darren Pua : The Wing-manning Guide For wing manning, networking etc. email: darrenpua1@gmail.com for networking only I’m often in London,San Fransisco , Nice or Dubai for those inte…

mindful-masculinity.org

If a girl questions your age just reframe :
agree and amply:
" I bet you my entire walking stick collection that I am not too old"
something a long those lines.

Time is always of the essences but I'd rather game when I am 40 then when I am 18 and lacking life experience to hook women

/Random but are you the same “isildur1” from the poker community?
no not at all i just copied his name

 

[isildur1]

I've heard this and similar stuff, but I am specifically looking for FRs/journals for inspiration.

Torero adresses age here

 

[Skills]

I've heard this and similar stuff, but I am specifically looking for FRs/journals for inspiration.

My journal is hidden but most of my post on my archives and blog happened after 40... Now to get result you can not be the typical 40 year old you need to have good fundamentals, and you vibe can't be old man vibe think tom Brady...

 

[isildur1]

My journal is hidden but most of my post on my archives and blog happened after 40... Now to get result you can not be the typical 40 year old you need to have good fundamentals, and you vibe can't be old man vibe think tom Brady...

didn't Nick Krausser start at age 34?

Honestly being older is a good thing . I day gamed with young guys aged 18-21 and they had a tough time hooking women due to their inexperience of life and poor conversation skills.

You can also enhance your SMV for better daygame interactions at any age : https://wordpress.com/post/mindful-masculinity.org/44

 

[goop]

40 year old daygamer checking in. I wake up every day at 5 AM, even sat/sun, so going out isn't really something I can work into my schedule. It definitely fucks up my social life though let me tell you. However I try to do at least a few approaches every time I am out. My main spots are the grocery store, gym, and my evening walk. Thankfully I live in Miami where there are beautiful women literally everywhere, so there's always at least a few cuties I can practice on

 

[bgwh]

didn't Nick Krausser start at age 34?

Yes, and he retired before he was 40.