How many years is it possible to game young women before age become a liability?

[kristian]

After doing this seroiusly for a couple of months already, Ive been asking myself a lot of questions about seduction and meeting girls. I am 29, and entering an age where my overall sexual market value is increasing week by week, as my fundamentals goes up.

I made myself a promise not to end up in a monogamous relationship until I am at least 35 years old. I know my looks are getting better as time passes by, but I know that eventually I will hit the sexual peak (witch I believe will by the age of 35-36) and age will start to have an impact on my game.

So my question to you guys is; How many years is it possible to game young women before age become a liability? And if so, how does game evolve as we get older?

I heard Chase talk about it in an interview if I remember correctly, and he said that guys can effectibly pull young, attractive women until they are in their mid-40s. Most of the well known PUAs are still in their 30s and the ones that started this community in the early 2000s are 40 and either married or settled with family and LTMRs. So I guess we dont have so much data on this. But lets say I want to continue doing this till my 50 or 60s. Is it even possible to pull younger girls?

 

[Rage]

Re: How many years is it possible to game young women before age become a liabil

Chase talks about this in some articles how as you age you have to become more of a status symbol/figure and can't be the byronic kid with no money to his name anymore.

Some material success and legacy and things you've build i.e. things to the man's name are important, and girls will kinda look for that. But other than that older guys can still get younger chicks.

I'm only 21 so I'm sorrta talking out of my ass and can't say anything here from experience; in person I was out at a bar this summer with old friends from middle school, and had my mind fucking blown (alongside my friends') to see my 6th grade english teacher in his mid 50s now ball the fuck out and game some girls and pull one of them out, to the next bar or his place or god knows where. (we wanted to get hima drink adn talk and chill with him but he just coolly said what's up, and then went to his girls).

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Anyway my guess would be that if anything being older makes your game better. You are esabished have money have resources have experience up the ass,, and if I'm trying to get a girl and had to say what kinda guy would be tough for me to compete against, it would be the esablished wealthy player whos in his 30s or 40s and has money, game, buttloads of experience and a whole host of other things in his favor to beat out my boyish good looks and my tight fitting jeans (which don't hold up a candle to the older player).

The thing that would hurt your game as an older guy (again am theorizing here, but I may be somewhat on the right track) I would guess would be that a) if you aren't esabltished haven't achieved built attinaed or amounted to much; and b) what your preferences and needs and wants are relationship wise at your age.

Likely there is much more desire for something semi committed or some relationsihps of some kind the more you age. Biologically even the most ardent and stubborn and devout of players would on some biological level settle with some girl just a touch to have kids with her and raisse them (even if banging other babes on the side). THat sentiment and desire is much less in myself and younger guy friends of mine who's game cleans up kinda nicely... but hints of it ar ethere and I'm sure wants preferences and desires for what I want in women may change as I age.

Some part of me would like seieng the same girl over and over , and growing/building something established with her; even if seeing other girls or having other projects, a primary girl of some sort would be kinda neat in it's own way.

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So in thinking about all of it though i think the prudent think to do and the only thing you really can do is to simply accept ackowledge and submit that as you age grow mature and have many moer experiences, your wants needs opinoins and preferences will cahnge potentially 180 degrees potentially inw ays you would neve r even begin to realize or predict from before hand. And all you can do to kind of prepare for that is build your skills and be accepting and well adapting of any cahgne within you that comes.

And then change when the change within you starts to happen and work to switch and match the outer world to fit the change in the inner world and your tastes preferences and desires inside.

Like Chase said: lots of players that say I'll NEVER settle EVER EVER EVER, but those guys that zealously said that were on eo f the first ones to settle. BEtter to say, for all I know one day I will settle, but right now I don't seem to have the desire to do so.... so right now I will do all I can in my power to really build up my skill and levels of abilities up and go as far with pickup and my other endeavoers as I possibly can.

And then when the times will change and your emotions and tastes will change, you will be lenient accepting and perhaps farily ready for something different then. And you will be all righ tchanging as well at that point potentially...

-Rage

 

[HellAtlantic]

Re: How many years is it possible to game young women before age become a liabil

Be prepared to be working out vigorously for the next 3 decades of your life. No matter how tight your game is your not pulling any chick let alone young ones with a beer gut and double chin. I'm 38 and I work out intense 4x a week. Been doing so for a yr and this feels like forever.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

Re: How many years is it possible to game young women before age become a liabil

Gents,

The rules of the game change as you get older but laying young women is still viable. Read the following 2 part article by chase.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/datin ... -you-dirty


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[SomaRuiz]

Re: How many years is it possible to game young women before age become a liabil

That'd depend on what you define as young. If you just mean younger than you, then I don't think there'll be a limit. But if you mean like, girls in their 20s then maybe somewhere around 40. I think you can game girls about 20 years below your own age; who are of legal age themselves, of course; so yeah, 40 and above is my estimation.

 

[Fuck This]

Re: How many years is it possible to game young women before age become a liabil

These are my observations watching people around me and my experiences.

The single woman pool only grows as we age. 50% of those who married at 20-25 year old, are coming back on the market in their 30's. Many of those are going to be suspicious of a 30 or 40 year old who has never married.

As I have aged (now 41), I notice female signs of interest more and more. I also have changed my tastes in women where "young girls" just don't elicit attraction for me. Could be due in part to having a daughter in her teens, but I don't think so. Finding women with similar motivations and common experiences is much more attractive to me now than it was when I was younger.

I'd say being 25 with a stable career, disposable income, free time to travel and vacation gives you the most options for attractive women in your life. When you reach 30 you have to put more effort into diet and exercise as your metabolism slows. It is at that time that you really start to notice that younger women, while still attractive in appearance, lack conversational abilities you begin to expect from a woman. You find yourself losing contact with buddies (like me) who settled down and started a family and stop going out. Pretty soon you are the "old guy " at the clubs. You have to be careful you aren't the "creepy old guy". Women in their 30's begin to get in your rotation as they get back in the scene when they can get babysitters.

As you approach 40, more women in your age begin to show up in social places like wine bars, taprooms, cocktail lounges. Kids are in high school and are doing their own social events. Women relate to men who are also parents. Not sure how they relate to childless bachelors. From watching my 68 year old bachelor uncle, I'd say couples try to include their single friend, but have less in common. Social circle introductions are commonplace. Almost like they "feel sorry for" their single friend. Especially on one day holidays that preclude travel.

Chase has certainly covered this topic well, but those are my observation of the social dynamics as I've aged.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

Re: How many years is it possible to game young women before age become a liabil

I wasn't going to but I am going to put my 2 cents in as the old guy here. All this concern about age is BS. Your mind set and learned ideas are getting in your way. The conservative and feminist society have you brainwashed. At 56 years old I have several women much younger than me that are currently into in me. I am talking about late teens and 20s. It is all in how you present yourself. The article I mentioned above lays this out in detail. I will point out a couple of important highlights.

- You must have your fundamentals in place. Being in shape is only one of the fundamentals. It is more important than for younger guys to have all your fundamentals in place.
- Present yourself as a sophisticated mature gentleman. Trying to act 25 years old will get you no where. Dress the part. Do not old dress but sophisticated.
- You must have a reason for being somewhere when you meet women. Older guys have their act together, so a woman expects you to have a reason for what you are doing. For example if you are going to the mall to look for day game you should make it look like you are shopping for something. You don't want to be just going up and down the walkway approaching women. If you want to meet a girl in a female product shop have a good reason for entering. For example I see a babe at the jewelry counter. I can approach saying I am looking for something for my daughter. Then I can compliment her on her looks.
- Don't do night game unless you have a damn good reason to be there. For example "My buddy is in town and wanted me to be his wingman. I reluctantly agreed but since I ran into you I feel better about this." Of course you need the buddy who is preferably younger than you by a bit. To just hit the bar by yourself is seen as creepy.
- There are two thought that young women have regarding older men. The first is yuck. He is old and creepy. The second is he is dominate, mature and sexy. Believe me from my own experience there are a lot more of the second kind than most people think.

It is finally sinking into my head that this is true. We have all been programmed by society to think young woman and old man is wrong. It is not true. If she likes you and you like her, as long as she is legal, then screw what society says. If you change your mind set and get over what society says, you will find I am right.

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