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How to avoid being sleazy?

Badabang

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I noticed that a lot of the things GC advocates is done by sleazy men. Now, I know that you can do what they preach without being sleazy, but I wonder how to do that when you start out, especially with the walk (sexy walk vs sleazy walk) or the facial expressions (sexy smirk). What's too much and what's just enough?
 

Smith

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lol sleazy? GC? what have you been reading?

I define sleazy as not reading the girl's response properly and came across as too pushy when she doesn't like it or is not ready for it. This most likely has nothing to do with how you walk or your facial expression though, but more about your calibration, which comes with experience.

when you say sleazy walk, I have this funny image of an old man creeping up behind a girl LOL
And sexy smirk is more like this...http://delenarightnow.tumblr.com/post/67734666293/ians-got-really-ugly-ears-how-do-people-find-him
not this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhuYIr1J1zc
 
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Badabang

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Yeah I misexpressed myself about GC and sleaziness and I already feel like I can recognize the distinction better now. However, you gotta admit sometimes that it is possible to look sleazy when you walk the wrong way, a bit like here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeRa1VbovXg
 

ray_zorse

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Umm well it's hard to draw the line between being sleazy and being sexual but I think it's maybe about frame, if you come across as a value-taker it seems sleazy, whereas if you come across as a value-giver it seems sexual. You might also want to try to hint at stuff by means of sexual innuendo, etc, rather than directly referencing sex between you and her. Also it depends how much connection you have -- for example grabbing a girl in a club and pulling her in for a dance could be considered sleazy (depending on your fundamentals though), whereas introducing yourself by name and then doing the same thing while looking deeply in her eyes would not be sleazy at all, because you already had the connection of introducing yourself. You might also want to read the article "how not to be the creepy guy"... although sleazy is different from creepy, there might still be overlap if you're a beginner.
Ray
PS Bottom line though, you'll probably come across sleazy at times, it's all part of learning calibration, Smith is on the money there.
 
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