How to Become a Master at Conversation and Assume The Burden Like a Pro

[King]

Hello all,

Been dealing with this as a serious sticking point, when I'm in a set OR even if its with a girl from social circle I start choking and am not able to maintain myself for too long and keep a conversation continuosly flowing, always needing the girl to add her input at the least (but thats sort of needy and weak and not a masculine leading thing) or I just start freezing and choking.(I know the girl should be the one doing most of the talking but you are the one in lead/control) (Don't have that skillset and/or confidence) Would appreciate all tips/pointers on how to learn to or start practicing how to do this in a masterful way.

Thank you all in advance!

 

[Will_V]

Hello all,

Been dealing with this as a serious sticking point, when I'm in a set OR even if its with a girl from social circle I start choking and am not able to maintain myself for too long and keep a conversation continuosly flowing, always needing the girl to add her input at the least (but thats sort of needy and weak and not a masculine leading thing) or I just start freezing and choking.(I know the girl should be the one doing most of the talking but you are the one in lead/control) (Don't have that skillset and/or confidence) Would appreciate all tips/pointers on how to learn to or start practicing how to do this in a masterful way.

Thank you all in advance!

There are some good articles on this. The main thing to remember is question/response/comment. You ask a question, she replies, and you comment on the reply, such as in a way to show commonality or a shared perspective.

The core problem here though is confidence. Confidence comes not from having some flawless technique but in having intent. What do you want her to think about? Talk about? Feel? Personally I enjoy being around women who are talking about, thinking about and feeling pleasure. So all my conversation basically comes down to bringing up pleasurable things and enjoying her while she expresses whatever she wants to express.

You don't really need to have great skills in conversation to escalate. You can basically talk nonsense as long as it subcommunicates enjoyment and a sexual vibe. It's not about transferring facts but transferring emotions.

 

[Glow]

My advice would be to
1) learn to spit game - gives you verbal momentum and punch in your being
2) learn to elicit via calibrated questioning(gives you overview and the drivers seat).

1) is about driving convos via stacking things, multitreading and following leads she provides, itll boost your natural potency for just engaging girls and having a bit of punch.
2) is about making her talk and dive into her topics via various techs - get her to give leads you can dig into and stimulate on/respond to
3) you can then sprinkle it with various techniques and developments eg flirting between the lines, we frames, mcrs etc.

Spitting games makes you a force of being that drives things. simple protocols can lift people quite easily. eg Rsd juliens pimp game sequence and the likes. Shooting combos of chick crack topics, creative misinterps, future projections and the likes. Highly efficient to make girls very reactive to you. Flavor it and its potent as f. Its smart to start here cause you will feel the impact right away and get better responses so it grows your confidence and potency quite some.

Elicitation is about driving topics up via calibrated questions that steer her to give you leads you can then use for various things. Here you are more leading her to talk going down paths around her lifeworld while keeping an overview and driving topics in various smart seduction relevant directions while adding in effects with precision over time.

The latter can eg be done as various questions around a core critical path of eliciting values - asking into whys of various things. this is often my centreline around which i add in more juicy stuff.

Also drop all these master herculian ego things in the title. Just learn the craft it is and realise youre a beginner - start there!

 

[Kaida]

Spitting games makes you a force of being that drives things. simple protocols can lift people quite easily. eg Rsd juliens pimp game sequence and the likes. Highly efficient to make girls very reactive to you. Flavor it and its potent as f. Its smart to start here cause you will feel the impact right away and get better responses so it grows your confidence and potency quite some.

I’m very interested. Do you have any deeper resources on spitting game like how you describe?

I definitely need that verbal potency and momentum

 

[King]

My advice would be to
1) learn to spit game - gives you verbal momentum and punch in your being
2) learn to elicit via calibrated questioning(gives you overview and the drivers seat).

1) is about driving convos via stacking things, multitreading and following leads she provides, itll boost your natural potency for just engaging girls and having a bit of punch.
2) is about making her talk and dive into her topics via various techs - get her to give leads you can dig into and stimulate on/respond to
3) you can then sprinkle it with various techniques and developments eg flirting between the lines, we frames, mcrs etc.

Spitting games makes you a force of being that drives things. simple protocols can lift people quite easily. eg Rsd juliens pimp game sequence and the likes. Shooting combos of chick crack topics, creative misinterps, future projections and the likes. Highly efficient to make girls very reactive to you. Flavor it and its potent as f. Its smart to start here cause you will feel the impact right away and get better responses so it grows your confidence and potency quite some.

Elicitation is about driving topics up via calibrated questions that steer her to give you leads you can then use for various things. Here you are more leading her to talk going down paths around her lifeworld while keeping an overview and driving topics in various smart seduction relevant directions while adding in effects with precision over time.

The latter can eg be done as various questions around a core critical path of eliciting values - asking into whys of various things. this is often my centreline around which i add in more juicy stuff.

Wow Glow himself responding! Superb stuff thank you soo much for everything, have been going thru your journal, amazing to read!

Looking forward to applying all of these and practicing them infield to master them! Thank you so much!

Also drop all these master herculian ego things in the title. Just learn the craft it is and realise youre a beginner - start there!

You have very deep insight, being down to earth makes it easier to connect with all people. Appreciate you.

Thanks again and have a nice day

 

[King]

There are some good articles on this. The main thing to remember is question/response/comment. You ask a question, she replies, and you comment on the reply, such as in a way to show commonality or a shared perspective.

The core problem here though is confidence. Confidence comes not from having some flawless technique but in having intent. What do you want her to think about? Talk about? Feel? Personally I enjoy being around women who are talking about, thinking about and feeling pleasure. So all my conversation basically comes down to bringing up pleasurable things and enjoying her while she expresses whatever she wants to express.

You don't really need to have great skills in conversation to escalate. You can basically talk nonsense as long as it subcommunicates enjoyment and a sexual vibe. It's not about transferring facts but transferring emotions.

Thank you so much for your deep insight! Very solid information! Look forward to using this in my interactions

Appreciate all the article management you do on this site, its very helpful!

Could you share some specifics on how you make it pleasurable? Would highly appreciate it!

 

[Will_V]

Thank you so much for your deep insight! Very solid information! Look forward to using this in my interactions

Appreciate all the article management you do on this site, its very helpful!

Could you share some specifics on how you make it pleasurable? Would highly appreciate it!

First of all, tell me what you would like to talk about with a girl - not just to pass the time but to make the most of the time you spend with her?

 

[King]

First of all, tell me what you would like to talk about with a girl - not just to pass the time but to make the most of the time you spend with her?

Yes sir!

So I would like to talk to her in a way that helps me get her aroused and feeling sexual about me and set good frames to show I'm the leader and dominant one. Anything you would add? Also does "One Date" have an outline of a complete process I can follow or build off from approach to sex?

I want to slowly evolve the relationship to where I would like it to be and of course build comfort as well. And give her a bunch of good emotions I can use to escalate with. And set up so she becomes submissive, obedient and whipped by me. And just give her the right emotions to make her want me more. I dunnoe, I look to your tips and guidance to help me level up my ideas/ philosophies here. Thanks!

 

[Skills]

You don't always have to be talking, silence builds tension..... Also is a misunderstanding that women always have to do the talking, is an exchange, you also want to lead on most topics taking them to seductive topics, if you let the girl talk and talk in a direction that is boring or meh, she will blame you for that... I personally don't talk much when i do is with witty humor, and seductive topics, and when i want her to talk is mainly with the goal of opening her up to gain intelligence to use the seduction....

 

[Chad Tyrone]

You don't always have to be talking, silence builds tension..... Also is a misunderstanding that women always have to do the talking, is an exchange, you also want to lead on most topics taking them to seductive topics, if you let the girl talk and talk in a direction that is boring or meh, she will blame you for that... I personally don't talk much when i do is with witty humor, and seductive topics, and when i want her to talk is mainly with the goal of opening her up to gain intelligence to use the seduction....

Yeah I think part of being a conversationalist is about directing convos towards topics favorable for the seduction and cutting go-nowhere threads.Just enough connection and comfort and u can bring up sex stories/gambits to arouse her more...get her thinking of sex.

So yeah not to talk just to talk...cause connection alone won't get one laid.But one still needs to gauge how open she is with touchy topics as u say for good calibration

 

[Will_V]

Yes sir!

So I would like to talk to her in a way that helps me get her aroused and feeling sexual about me and set good frames to show I'm the leader and dominant one. Anything you would add?

Allright so the way I like to do it is I basically use words to create commonality and body language to express confidence and dominance. So I don't really talk about myself being this or that but I make her feel it with strong eye contact, a low tone, moving my body close to her etc. And then we could just talk about the weather and it would still be sexual.

So I suggest you focus on your fundamentals - style, confidence, voice, eye contact, touch etc - as if these are not up to scratch it doesn't really matter what you say, it won't land.

The basic formula of conversation is: your question/her reply/ your comment. You ask her something, she replies, and you comment in a way that creates commonality or shows curiosity. If you write a field report I can expand further.

Also does "One Date" have an outline of a complete process I can follow or build off from approach to sex?

I'm just a mod here, I think @ulrich might be the guy to help you there unless I'm mistaken.

I want to slowly evolve the relationship to where I would like it to be and of course build comfort as well. And give her a bunch of good emotions I can use to escalate with. And set up so she becomes submissive, obedient and whipped by me.

Don't get too far ahead, first of all she has to be comfortable with you or you won't be doing any of that. And to do that you need to be able to chill and talk with her in comfortable, natural way without your ego getting in the way.

And just give her the right emotions to make her want me more. I dunnoe, I look to your tips and guidance to help me level up my ideas/ philosophies here. Thanks!

You're a little too focused on making her want you. First you have to be able to chill and talk with her and spend time with her in a way that she enjoys. Then as you escalate and mix in a sexual vibe her enjoyment will build into strong attraction.

 

[King]

Allright so the way I like to do it is I basically use words to create commonality and body language to express confidence and dominance. So I don't really talk about myself being this or that but I make her feel it with strong eye contact, a low tone, moving my body close to her etc. And then we could just talk about the weather and it would still be sexual.

So I suggest you focus on your fundamentals - style, confidence, voice, eye contact, touch etc - as if these are not up to scratch it doesn't really matter what you say, it won't land.

The basic formula of conversation is: your question/her reply/ your comment. You ask her something, she replies, and you comment in a way that creates commonality or shows curiosity. If you write a field report I can expand further.



I'm just a mod here, I think @ulrich might be the guy to help you there unless I'm mistaken.



Don't get too far ahead, first of all she has to be comfortable with you or you won't be doing any of that. And to do that you need to be able to chill and talk with her in comfortable, natural way without your ego getting in the way.



You're a little too focused on making her want you. First you have to be able to chill and talk with her and spend time with her in a way that she enjoys. Then as you escalate and mix in a sexual vibe her enjoyment will build into strong attraction.

Wow what deep insight! Thank you so much. So essentially before we can get to that point we need to build an interaction and connection first to show that we care about her. building attraction is easy with techniques but building comfort is the work portion of it.

 

[King]

You don't always have to be talking, silence builds tension..... Also is a misunderstanding that women always have to do the talking, is an exchange, you also want to lead on most topics taking them to seductive topics, if you let the girl talk and talk in a direction that is boring or meh, she will blame you for that... I personally don't talk much when i do is with witty humor, and seductive topics, and when i want her to talk is mainly with the goal of opening her up to gain intelligence to use the seduction....

WOW! Skills himself replied! Thank you so much man, these tips are legend! Have a great day brother, appreciate you

 

[Rakehell]

Yo

Been dealing with this as a serious sticking point, when I'm in a set OR even if its with a girl from social circle I start choking and am not able to maintain myself for too long and keep a conversation continuosly flowing

Pauses and breaks are normal in conversations, they’re actually kind of necessary. They give you time to think of where you want the interaction to go, they give her time to give her own input, it can draw out sexual expression, they allow conversations to come to their natural conclusions.

Alot of the problems that come from pauses in conversations, come from not allowing yourself to be comfortable in the silence. Heres an example:

Conversation hits a pause, guy gets uncomfortable with the silence, feels responsible to keep it going, bows out the conversation/says something irrelevant/dumb/tries hard to get it started again. And the interactions over, mostly because the guy felt awkward about it.

I’d encourage you to expand your perspective of what it means to “lead”, an interaction. Silence is something you can lead someone to deliberately. It can be used to emphasize a point, to get someone to tell the truth, to make someone expand on something they’ve said, to escalate the vibe of the interaction in a sexual way, to transition somewhere else physically.

Pausing related issues are mostly internal normally. It comes from not being comfortable with the silence yourself. I’d play around with it a bit allowing the silence to build, without doing too much to try and relieve it.

You’ll find that pauses are actually opportunities to escalate things further than what they are. It’s apart of being a good conversationalist.

 

[King]

Yo

Pauses and breaks are normal in conversations, they’re actually kind of necessary. They give you time to think of where you want the interaction to go, they give her time to give her own input, it can draw out sexual expression, they allow conversations to come to their natural conclusions.

Alot of the problems that come from pauses in conversations, come from not allowing yourself to be comfortable in the silence. Heres an example:

Conversation hits a pause, guy gets uncomfortable with the silence, feels responsible to keep it going, bows out the conversation/says something irrelevant/dumb/tries hard to get it started again. And the interactions over, mostly because the guy felt awkward about it.

I’d encourage you to expand your perspective of what it means to “lead”, an interaction. Silence is something you can lead someone to deliberately. It can be used to emphasize a point, to get someone to tell the truth, to make someone expand on something they’ve said, to escalate the vibe of the interaction in a sexual way, to transition somewhere else physically.

Pausing related issues are mostly internal normally. It comes from not being comfortable with the silence yourself. I’d play around with it a bit allowing the silence to build, without doing too much to try and relieve it.

You’ll find that pauses are actually opportunities to escalate things further than what they are. It’s apart of being a good conversationalist.

Wow superb response. Have been noticing a couple of these things in field recently and I have to agree. Will definitely give everything else a try and test em.
Thank you so much for replying brother