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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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I've been hitting a gym for a while.
Currently I'm 138 lbs 15% body fat.

Anyways, I researched around a bit, and they all said it was impossible to gain weight without gaining fat. Even if all I eat is lean food.
For example, if I work out a few more months, probably I'll be at 150 lbs, 20% body fat.
How can I hit 150 lbs while keeping 15% body fat?

I have an idea: Keep hitting the gym and eating a lot, until I reach 150 lbs. Then I do a liposuction to get rid of a few pounds of fat.
What do you think?
 

Richard

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My best friend does dirty bulking for 9 months where he can pretty much eat whatever he wants while hitting the gym and then for 3 months he gets very strict about his diet; I believe he does carb-cycling along with HIIT (high intensity interval training) and he shreds the fat while maintaining the muscle.

He started off at around 118 lbs. (if memory serves me) and when I was living around him he maxed his weight out at 180, possibly 190 and then would cut for 3 months as I mentioned. Currently he's sitting at around 150 lbs. and is fucking shredded. At 150 lbs he is benching more than he could at 180-190.

Anyway, to my knowledge, you need consume more if you want to pack on muscle otherwise your body has nothing to use to repair the broken muscle, and the natural byproduct of consuming more is that some of it will become fat but you can always get more strict about your diet and focus solely on shredding that fat while preserving new muscle.

-Richard
 

misty

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Hit hard at the gym to strengthen your muscles. Eat lean & clean with enough calories.
 

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With liposuction, apparently the fat comes back and is in different places.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/weeki ... olata.html

Since you're on the leaner side naturally cutting after a bulk may not be difficult at all. Ie no liposuction. The other option is to cut a little bit now from 15% to 12% or something and then bulk again. Have you kept measurements, have some muscles gotten bigger during your current bulk? Keep an eye on your waist and neck measurements too. Talks about 'lean gaining' in the article. The forum thread talks about calories on off days are roughly at maintenance on off days and some amount of surplus on the training days.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle ... gain.html/
http://forums.lylemcdonald.com//showthr ... 646&page=4
 

Parkour

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You can cycle where you gain a little, cut back, gain a little, cut back.
This does two things,
1.) it never gets out of hand so your clothes mostly fit
2.) you build solid habits for each cycle

This can be as frequent as every week (I.e cheat day refeeds to intermittent fasting)
Or longer cycles like 2-4 weeks.

Water weight is a complicated factor. I can gain and lost he same 10 lbs in two weeks or less just by manipulating water absorbing carbs/grains, dairy or anything I don't digest easily, creative and sodium to gain vs leaner foods, low sodium, higher potassium to harden/shed water weight. Both states I can drink a lot of water but i require more water to retain less.

Also, there is temporary muscle weight like sarcoplasmic hypertrophy and then there is deeper harder to lose muscle weight. The temporary muscle needs to be reengaged every few days and seems to come from bodybuilder types of workouts in particular (the pump). The longer term muscle can technically come from strength/power lifting/ Olympic lifting/cross fit workouts but this isn't a straight path to looking pretty but more of a foundation that you can build a good looking body off of (by bodybuilding on top of that mass later)

Regarding liposuction, it's better to reshape where you put weight on by finally removing a layer of cells. It's invasive surgery and has recovery time that will keep you out of the gym so you'll probably lose that temporary sarcoplasmic muscle weight when you're recovering. It's painful and requires you to wear compression clothing for weeks/months so your flesh/skin can reattach once you've removed the fatty connective tissue. There will be at lease a small incision scar. If they use heat/laser type, this should help with skin tightening. Another option would be something like cool sculpting where the effects aren't quite as precise or dramatic and there is a swelling recovery period but at least there isn't detachment keeping you out of the gym for 6+ weeks and it's a lot safer. It does work well on areas like hips/handles or lower abdomen if you want to get rid of a muffin top when you take your shirt off.
 

chloe_ember

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Try coolsculpting and then sport. These procedures help remove fat and fit the skin. I did it last year after pregnancy. My skin was flabby, in some places cellulite, but I was afraid of surgery. So I decided to try coolsculpting and did it in http://mediluxe.ca/en/. But u should remembert that it`s not a panacea. U must work hard anyway!
 

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You can add muscle by multiplying your body weight by 1.5 grams of protein per pound. Lose weight by 1.25 grams per pound.
 

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The short answer is to lift consistently and manage your macros closely. You’ll need to sleep/recover avoid other body stressors because if you don’t eat enough and recover, no muscle. Working out and food choices need to pass the realm of willpower and move to the realm of subconscious habit. I used MyFitnessPal to really learn about food and macros. Eating clean should always be a priority.

I suggest you change your newsfeed and start following a lot of serious fitness content. Reading that content will put fitness in mind consistently.

Sources like Flex will teach you aesthetics and body building which will focus on hypertrophy but this is the extreme realm where different steroid routines are the norm even if not always directly talked about. Steroids aren’t a panacea though because they still require you to work out, eat well, and recover. They can speed up the process maybe 4x and raises the ceiling but they are fraught with health, legal, and other sport consequences and can veer into unhealthy fixation. Nonetheless these bodybuilders know everything about activation of different muscles, i.e. what shoulder moves to do to get them to pop like a superhero. Bodybuilding.com has a lot of info as well and focuses on supplements. These are people who compete entirely on pretty muscles and posing and know more about getting “shredded” then anyone else.

Move over to the other end of the spectrum, powerlifting, weightlifting, and strongman offer ways to build muscle with a much more impressive strength factor to go with it. I feel like this is a better way to just gain a base of lean mass. These guys build a ton of muscle and often shed excess fat because they compete in weight/age groups. Admittedly, sometimes you’ll see fatter looking guys but realize they’re just prioritizing recovery/muscle feeding and care much less about aesthetics for performance reasons. Barbend is a great place to start reading about these three sports and you’ll see they are actually everywhere. Powerlifting and strongman workouts tend to build a sizable/functional muscle foundation if you just want to gain some initial mass. I like Stronglifts 5x5 app as a good free app/program to get started. You can always pivot to bodybuilding style workouts later but building strength/mass like powerlifters means your eventual bodybuilding workouts are safer and more scolulping oriented while your powerlifting workouts provided raw mass, stability, and bone density. Weightlifting is a different sport that involves more explosiveness and technique work. It’s awesome but won’t build mass quite as focused as the other two.

Cardio is good for warmups and to maintain some conditioning but it’s usually the best way to lean out not get mass. HIIT gets closer but is just a different kind of conditioning with a little more bulk to it.

Crossfit/functional fitness is in between. It’s awesome for overall conditioning but is a compromise between the type of conditioning you get from hard core cardio and strength sports without being as good as either. Along these lines, some MMA programs, advanced calesthenics /plyometrics, or certain sport focused programs will build this overall fitness concept but not specialize in specific results as fast as possible.

I finished 6 months of powerlifting and am moving into a calesthenics/gymnastics/body weight program called Thenx to master some things I couldn’t do before because I needed more strength.

Hope this helps. Building muscle takes time. I suggest committing to a program for 6 months and tweaking it until you make it work if you want to have a chance at a real transformation. Good luck with wherever your fitness journey takes you.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Thank guys for your help.
I'm 150 lbs now. I went to doc, surprisingly body fat was still at 15%.
Yeah, I'll try something like Thenx for the next 6 months to get the muscles.
 
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