How to prevent cheating in marriage if you are away for long

Spyce D

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Sometimes due to life , career , job transfers ( where you can't take your whole family due to money issues ) ... A man has to live away from his wife . Also in jobs like army , merchant Navy ( here , you have to be away from home for 6 months ever year ) .

And I have seen that a wife can cheat on his husband even if he lives with her and sometimes a wife wont cheat with him even if he is away for an year .

But there are women who might cheat cuz they were feeling lonely and shit .


And this actually is a bit of a concern for me cuz I am creating a lifestyle where I would be traveling a lot in future ( and also planning to get married by 30 ) . I am 25 rn .

So , one thing I read in gc article is that she needs to believe in your cause .

That may work but I just don't know .

I want to know what I can incorporate things in myself that when I eventually get married and am traveling for year or 2 ... My wife doesn't go around fucking .

And thing is I have big goals in my life and I do not want to sacrifice them either for the sake of anyone .
 

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Screen for right person. This is the most important.

You know what I have noticed a lot of pickup guys actually can get a lot of good wife material : I know I do. However we also have the itch for the more exciting types.. and gues who is more prone to cheat?
 

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Sometimes due to life , career , job transfers ( where you can't take your whole family due to money issues ) ... A man has to live away from his wife . Also in jobs like army , merchant Navy ( here , you have to be away from home for 6 months ever year ) .

And I have seen that a wife can cheat on his husband even if he lives with her and sometimes a wife wont cheat with him even if he is away for an year .

But there are women who might cheat cuz they were feeling lonely and shit .


And this actually is a bit of a concern for me cuz I am creating a lifestyle where I would be traveling a lot in future ( and also planning to get married by 30 ) . I am 25 rn .

So , one thing I read in gc article is that she needs to believe in your cause .

That may work but I just don't know .

I want to know what I can incorporate things in myself that when I eventually get married and am traveling for year or 2 ... My wife doesn't go around fucking .

And thing is I have big goals in my life and I do not want to sacrifice them either for the sake of anyone .

That's a very good question and one I think about a lot - not just in terms of cheating but also in terms of a relationship breaking down or becoming weaker without my direct influence.

There is a trope in the red pill that I actually think very much applies here: the main thing that holds things together is that she has to respect you.

The main reason I've come to this conclusion is that the girls I've had the best 'relationships' with post-breakup are girls who respected me a lot. Post breakup there's no reason to put up a facade - she can do whatever she wants, and as long as you have actually broken up it's pretty clear that she's not getting an actual committed relationship from you, nor (at least with me) any sex either.

But what I've found is that even when there's nothing holding you together, the respect she developed for you during the relationship still makes her want to prove herself and be validated by you, almost like a father figure. And the reason is that genuine respect creates a connection of identity between two people. And every person will do far more for the sake of their identity than they would for anyone else, or even for themselves - someone who identifies strongly with an idea will sacrifice a lot for that idea, even their own pleasure or satisfaction, and endure a lot of pain, if that idea is propping up the positive aspects of how they view themselves internally. And as a dominant figure in her life, according to the respect she has for you, you are to a greater or lesser extent an anchor for her identity.

It's important to distinguish real respect from behavioral respect - people might easily fall into the habit of behaving with respect around people they fear or are forced to submit to, but doesn't actually hold when the threat is not there, and a person in this position is very susceptible to outside influences and opportunities to escape. In these cases the respect is at the behavioral level, and goes to no actual depth into that person's identity.

Real respect occurs when you are a dominant figure in someone's life AND you give them a framework in which they can develop and grow and succeed in a way that they find very satisfying. In my relationships, the main things I've found to be useful are:

- Have a lot of conviction in yourself, your principles and beliefs, and be able to explain your position on things very convincingly in terms of things that she understands and values. This positions you as a positive authority figure who speaks her language.
- Create lots of opportunities to reinforce your worldview in her mind with both words and actions.
- Never violate your own principles in front of her, no matter what is at stake.
- Find out the things she really values in terms of who she wants to be and the goals she wants to accomplish, and propel her toward them with encouragement and positivity.

When you do this well, and she has submitted to your position in her life, and you're topping it off by fucking her well and giving her the affection she needs, she internalizes your frame deeply into her identity, and like the sun shining down it makes her feel very happy and secure, and every violation of it brings the pain of violating her own identity.

In this situation, especially if you've set the clear precedent that you won't put up with any bullshit or the sun will be turned off, she really suffers at even the thought of cheating or breaking your trust, and she does not make herself open to outside influences such as advances by other men, lest they find a way to manipulate her into destroying her own wonderful world.

This makes it actually very easy to know when the relationship in danger, because she becomes difficult to influence, opposes you on small things, avoids situations where she has to trust you, does not seek approval or validation from you, and so on. When these things happen you know that she is only a few steps away from going and orbiting around someone else's frame. And it's easy to spot, because it is such a stark contrast to how she behaves when she fully trusts and submits to you.

The problem is that many men have such a messed up idea of how to run a relationship that their relationships never move out of life support, and they begin tolerating and ignoring bad behavior and signals of lack of respect or trust very early on, starting even before they make a girl their girlfriend much less get married. Because they don't recognize what a good relationship looks like, they blindly advance one that is already devoid of respect forward to its inevitable doom. This is partly their own stupidity and partly because of what society normalizes in terms of how you should expect a relationship to operate.

That's about as simply as I can explain my experience and point of view on this. Becoming a person worthy of respect - a great leader and teacher and influencer of people - is not a simple or straightforward thing, and it's something I work on all the time and I think every man should make a priority in his development.

But if you do manage to gain and maintain her respect, I think there's the best possible chance that even when you're not there, she will continue to behave as if you were.
 

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@Spyce D,

Sticking simply to the most bare bones practical steps:

  • Select a low count girl who is low in sensation seeking and low sociosexual orientation (e.g., she's a prude). Statistically-speaking, these are the least-likely women to stray.

  • Probably also if you cannot avoid being away for long stretches of time, you simply just want to pick a low sex drive woman who is not going to have a lot of burning needs you can't satisfy from far away.

  • Have a lot of kids. She's not going to have much time for new dick if she's barefooted and pregnant all the time.

  • Move her in right next to your parents. If they're like most parents, they will keep an eye on her while helping with the kids.

  • Make sure your horny, unscrupulous friends, cousins, and brothers are not allowed around your lonely wife!

  • Move the whole family way out into the boondocks. Remove the availability of new dick and the risk of new dick falling into her goes down by a lot.

  • Talk to her frequently while away. Lots of just you-two talk, without other family or friends nosing in. Have video sex. Avoid drama while away. If drama starts picking up, you need to clear your schedule and get back there in-person pronto to handle it.

Those'd be my top recommendations.

Yes, her believing in your cause and having a lot of respect for you helps. Just bear in mind that if you are not THERE for long stretches of time, the memory of you may start to fade, she may start to resent being left alone, may begin to feel abandoned, and at that point respect fades, causes fade in significance, and you are in trouble.

Really, my REAL top recommendation would be that if you don't want a woman running around behind your back, don't put yourself in a situation where you're trying to hang onto a woman without being around that woman for long stretches of time. Leave her alone long enough and she starts to feel like she's single again... because really, in a lot of ways, she is.

Chase
 

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  • Select a low count girl who is low in sensation seeking and low sociosexual orientation (e.g., she's a prude). Statistically-speaking, these are the least-likely women to stray.

  • Probably also if you cannot avoid being away for long stretches of time, you simply just want to pick a low sex drive woman who is not going to have a lot of burning needs you can't satisfy from far away
Yeah , low count chick is what I want ultimately but I will still put the effort to get really beautiful chicks with pornstar bodies who is also a bit conservative side .

I don't want to be with plain jane just for comfort .


  • Move her in right next to your parents. If they're like most parents, they will keep an eye on her while helping with the kids

Ofc . I won't have issues with that , It's a norm to live with your parents , here .

  • Move the whole family way out into the boondocks. Remove the availability of new dick and the risk of new dick falling into her goes down by a lo
Already working on that . And it's not just for marriage but for myself too .


Leave her alone long enough and she starts to feel like she's single again... because really, in a lot of ways, she is.
But , if you are really strong , driven and respected in her eyes (+ out of this world kind of sex ) won't she will be similar to an alpha widow .
 

Spyce D

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You know what I have noticed a lot of pickup guys actually can get a lot of good wife material : I know I do. However we also have the itch for the more exciting types.. and gues who is more prone to cheat?
True , only if we could get both of them . Wife material for raising the family and exciting ones for "other" purposes . cough cough .
 

Spyce D

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There is a trope in the red pill that I actually think very much applies here: the main thing that holds things together is that she has to respect you.
Definitely agree . If there is no respect , no matter which race women belong to ... she will cuck you .

It's important to distinguish real respect from behavioral respect - people might easily fall into the habit of behaving with respect around people they fear or are forced to submit to, but doesn't actually hold when the threat is not there, and a person in this position is very susceptible to outside influences and opportunities to escape. In these cases the respect is at the behavioral level, and goes to no actual depth into that person's identity.
Yes . I have seen myself that how some wife ran away cuz her her husband / her husband's family was too controlling . So , respect that stems from her inside and not just cuz of fear is the one I will aim from now for any relationship .

The problem is that many men have such a messed up idea of how to run a relationship that their relationships never move out of life support, and they begin tolerating and ignoring bad behavior and signals of lack of respect or trust very early on, starting even before they make a girl their girlfriend much less get married. Because they don't recognize what a good relationship looks like, they blindly advance one that is already devoid of respect forward to its inevitable doom.
I have seen this happening in both arranged marriages and love marriages . Men tolerate bad behaviour of their wives ..that's a shame .

Average men (in this side of the globe) either take their wives for granted ..which is slowly diminishing in cities due to movies , feminism etc. or they give in to their wife's orders .

Both being detrimental to a relationship .

partly because of what society normalizes in terms of how you should expect a relationship to operate.
True .

And cuz guys after getting married feel secured in acquiring the heart of a woman .. and this secured feelings sometimes leads to their demise .
 

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Anyways , great replies .

So , what i can realistically do before getting married is:

keep on improving my seduction skills .

Get more experience in lays and relationships .

Get into mltrs .

Experience Mistress and consorts .

Get my finances on upward trajectory . (I dont need money to attract but for my own life too)

Create a system from now on in my life as well in my family where lot of things would be automated by the time I get married .

Get really really good in sex .

Work on creating respect in mind of women .

Know how to get a women addicted to me (will only use on girls i really like )

And there is lot more to work on ...which i dont know yet ..


So , If this site will still be working after 5-10 years (hopefully) then ... I will definitely come back and read this .
 

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True , only if we could get both of them . Wife material for raising the family and exciting ones for "other" purposes . cough cough .
I think different about it. It would be great if I could trust myself for once to simply not fuck around and be a straight up family man. This is a weakness and vice and I am paying for it, all this game stuff is fun and all but also takes a lot of time, which could have been spent on more worthwhile pursuits. But I digress
 

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Yeah , low count chick is what I want ultimately but I will still put the effort to get really beautiful chicks with pornstar bodies who is also a bit conservative side .

I don't want to be with plain jane just for comfort .

Of course!

But you're asking "how do I keep her loyal while I'm away."

That is, like it or not, one of the higher odds plays.

But , if you are really strong , driven and respected in her eyes (+ out of this world kind of sex ) won't she will be similar to an alpha widow .

Yeah, sure.

But are alpha widows celibate?

Do women scorned not seek comfort in the arms of comforting, reassuring men?

You'd better bet they do.

Funny things happen to women deprived of the warmth of a man for long stretches of time.

Chase
 

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For a seducer this is one of the best set ups (ask me how i know).... My current main travels for work a lot, again this is field tested:

 

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For a seducer this is one of the best set ups
By this you meant your hoc post or about travelling which I wrote about ?

A bit confused .

Also , I just read your article ...so ... it's that if girl has no hoc then her odds are cheating are lower even if I am travelling , right?
 

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@Spyce D,

Sticking simply to the most bare bones practical steps:

  • Select a low count girl who is low in sensation seeking and low sociosexual orientation (e.g., she's a prude). Statistically-speaking, these are the least-likely women to stray.

  • Probably also if you cannot avoid being away for long stretches of time, you simply just want to pick a low sex drive woman who is not going to have a lot of burning needs you can't satisfy from far away.

  • Have a lot of kids. She's not going to have much time for new dick if she's barefooted and pregnant all the time.

  • Move her in right next to your parents. If they're like most parents, they will keep an eye on her while helping with the kids.

  • Make sure your horny, unscrupulous friends, cousins, and brothers are not allowed around your lonely wife!

  • Move the whole family way out into the boondocks. Remove the availability of new dick and the risk of new dick falling into her goes down by a lot.

  • Talk to her frequently while away. Lots of just you-two talk, without other family or friends nosing in. Have video sex. Avoid drama while away. If drama starts picking up, you need to clear your schedule and get back there in-person pronto to handle it.

Those'd be my top recommendations.

Yes, her believing in your cause and having a lot of respect for you helps. Just bear in mind that if you are not THERE for long stretches of time, the memory of you may start to fade, she may start to resent being left alone, may begin to feel abandoned, and at that point respect fades, causes fade in significance, and you are in trouble.

Really, my REAL top recommendation would be that if you don't want a woman running around behind your back, don't put yourself in a situation where you're trying to hang onto a woman without being around that woman for long stretches of time. Leave her alone long enough and she starts to feel like she's single again... because really, in a lot of ways, she is.

Chase

Yeah, those are some great practical ways to reduce risk. Especially surrounding her with your and her relatives, and talking to her often and regularly. You want to her world to be made up of things that are antithetical to the idea of cheating.

And regardless a complete no-contact for 6 months or a year would not be good for any relationship, regardless of how strong you built it up to be.

I do think though that respect for a man can have a very symbolic element that doesn't require him to be always or continuously around for it to operate as a presence, as long as that symbol has been very clearly and strongly built up in her mind and in the structures of your life together. Because a man is like a fractal piece of an entire kingdom - his presence brings about elements of culture, higher ideals, laws and punishments, ideology, etc that are imprinted into the world around him and take some time to fade away - as long as he isn't afraid to erect such things in the first place rather than just being a drifter in his own land.

But it is of course ideal to reinforce it before you leave and minimize the time you're away. Undefended or poorly defended kingdoms are always overtaken, even more so when they are rich in bounty ..
 

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By this you meant your hoc post or about travelling which I wrote about ?

A bit confused .

Also , I just read your article ...so ... it's that if girl has no hoc then her odds are cheating are lower even if I am travelling , right?
Correct or vice versa, best set ups are:

- you have your place she has her place...

- she travels or you travel, but see each other at least once or twice a week or every couple of weeks...

Spyce with all due respect right now you should be worrying about getting laid.. and getting multiple women, beyond me why are you worrying about marriage and about retiring from game etc.... I smell cope..
 

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beyond me why are you worrying about marriage and about retiring from game etc.... I smell cope..
Not exactly a cope .

I just wanted to know about a few dynamics which I can replicate before I even get married with my ltrs .

And cuz I have seen lot of cheating happening in marriages even in conservative societies , semi liberal societies .

Spyce with all due respect right now you should be worrying about getting laid.. and getting multiple women
Right now , this is my goal .

Maybe I came across as over analyzing about future .
 
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