How To Properly Steal This Girl ? / Need Expert Help !

[Aominona]

Hi everyone, I'm a new member here. I'm not a professional when it comes to picking up women but i have done some research and browsed this site for a bit. Anyways on with it. I need help trying to steal this one girl who has a boyfriend.

So the situation is as follows: I met the girl about a week and a half ago. We talked and i got her number. We started texting and she said this:

Her: I stare at you in class because i see something attractive in you.

Me: You're not bad yourself, We're both attractive what's the hold up ?

Her: Because i have a boyfriend.

Now after that we still constantly texted and met up twice so far. She's always shy and flirts with me red face and all. She always offers me a ride to school since she found out that we live so close together and have the same class. Every morning we arrive at school and have 10mins to kill i use some kino , i hug her , hold her hand and she is very passive. She never pulled away. However, she did say she couldn't leave her boyfriend because she had too much respect for him and couldn't do it. She likes him but can't say she loves the guy. I do want to point out that she NEVER mentions him. They met last semester but ONLY recently became together 3 weeks ago ! So i think pulling her is still possible.

Yesterday she told me that she couldn't do this and that she would like us to be friends. Then i expressed some feelings and did some Push and Pull and totally fucked her mind that day. She then texted me saying she feels so bad now about what she told me and that it has her thinking so much and a lot of tings are going through her head ! She ends up speechless every time i push for the emotions to pull her in. She also admitted to having some feelings towards me but since she is in a relationship right now it would be wrong if she felt more because she wouldn't want someone to do that behind her back too. Say's she doesn't know what's going to happen in the future and only god knows. I made my intentions clear to her and i didn't text her the whole day today. So far i have not gone for the kiss despite her being passive towards the holding hands and long hugs. My plan is to keep escalating. Next time we're in the parking lot and have our 10mins kill time I'll try and go for the kiss.

The way i see it she wants to be with me but she feels like it would be wrong if she just dumped the guy right away for me even though she doesn't really love the guy. The guy has helped her through some rough times that's why it's understandable why she feels obligated to him. Not to sound like an ass but i need to break that.

Another thing i want to point out is that from the two times we hung out we had some really deep conversations and really connected. She also introduced me to her best friend.

(Note): I do like this girl and I'm not just trying to bang and leave. So save the crap if you plan on telling me that oh it's stupid to love a girl with a boyfriend and blah blah blah don't preach because I've heard it all before ether help me or not.


So tell me if my plan is good and do be kind enough to throw me some suggestions on how i should play this out successfully.

 

[Mr.Rob]

If you really want to steal her away from her boyfriend I'd skip trying to kiss her.

Bring her back to a place where you can have sex and escalate from there. Take care of her emotions after sex so she doesn't judge herself. Search "walking the line" on girlschase.

 

[Aominona]

If you really want to steal her away from her boyfriend I'd skip trying to kiss her.

Bring her back to a place where you can have sex and escalate from there. Take care of her emotions after sex so she doesn't judge herself. Search "walking the line" on girlschase.

The problem with that is when ever i try to take her to some place she always declines saying she's busy but the truth is she feels bad about messing with me when she has a man. She'll always text me and reply fast. She hasn't texted me in 2 days which is really weird since she never done that before. I think she is testing me or some shit. So i let it be so i won't come off as needy anyways i will see her tomorrow during class and hopefully before it. The only time i know i can get for sure with her is the 10 minute window before our class. And if I'm lucky after our class we go out. So i need to find some things to do within that small window.

 

[Mr.Rob]

she always declines saying she's busy but the truth is she feels bad about messing with me when she has a man

i need to find some things to do within that small window.

Do you really think if you kiss her in the 10 minutes before/after class she's going to feel less bad about messing with you and throw all her old inclinations out the window?

 

[Aominona]

she always declines saying she's busy but the truth is she feels bad about messing with me when she has a man

i need to find some things to do within that small window.

Do you really think if you kiss her in the 10 minutes before/after class she's going to feel less bad about messing with you and throw all her old inclinations out the window?

No that's why i need someone to expand more on what i can do that would work in the window that i do have.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Convince her in that short time period of why she should come with you to a sexual escalation location.

Honestly if I were you I'd probably try and act very friendly and friendzone her. Legitimately friendzone her and stop chasing her whatsoever. Then casually propose that you study together as friends somewhere and then just escalate when you're alone with the frame of "whoops wow I guess I underestimated my attraction for you. After all I thought I'd be able to contain myself, look what you're doing to me!".

My suggestion.

Good luck bra

-Rob

 

[Drck]

She always offers me a ride to school since she found out that we live so close together and have the same class
>>>> you should have kissed her in the car, couple of days ego, even push for sex. She told you you are attractive. She offered you rides (so you can be together). Those were really good signs.

A girl who is in love doesn't go after other guys. She's got a BF but she is not sure about that relationship. Sometimes girls are trying to get another guys involved, to prove herself that the current BF worths it, how jealous he gets once he finds out, to make him "move faster with sex" because now she makes it seem that he's got competition, or simply she wants to make sure that her BF is the best guy she chosed. She could even flirt knowing that the other guy doesn't have much chances. Weird stuff, I guess she is simply exercising abundance mentality.

Yesterday she told you she couldn't do this and she would like you to be a friend.
>>>> that's a bad sign, in her mind you are already orbiting in a friend zone. She sees you as a friend, not as a lover. IMO if you keep going after her she will just be repeating that you are just friends...

She is thinking too much and lots of things are going through her head, only God knows....
>>>> that is not good either. She is comparing her BF to you. I mean, you could win the comparison, but whatever she comes up in her mind she will only justify it. So if you are losing already, she will just justify in her head why. IMO she's already made her decision.

The way I see it she wants to be with me but she feels like it would be wrong if she just dumped the guy right away
>>>> If she wanted to be with you she would be with you, she would already dump him. You are justifying what is she doing, you are coming up with excuses for her. Don't do that for your own benefits. Watch her actions, not what she says. She may say that she loves you, but if she is with the other guy - she is with the other guy. She is not with you. Many guys would still be waiting for this girl, they would be in love with her while patiently waiting till she dumps the other guy... The reality is that the other guy is probably fucking her already, and if not he will be soon...

Anyway, I believe that you had a decent chance just couple of days ago, but it looks like that she has decided for the other guy. If you still want to pursue further more actions are needed, a kiss here or there won't IMO do it... and if she keeps talking about being just a friend - well, friend zone it is...

 

[Smith]

A girl who is in love doesn't go after other guys. She's got a BF but she is not sure about that relationship. Sometimes girls are trying to get another guys involved, to prove herself that the current BF worths it, how jealous he gets once he finds out, to make him "move faster with sex" because now she makes it seem that he's got competition, or simply she wants to make sure that her BF is the best guy she chosed. She could even flirt knowing that the other guy doesn't have much chances. Weird stuff, I guess she is simply exercising abundance mentality.

That is very true. I have personally experienced this once, and that really put me off going after girls who have a bf. There is a lot of emotional drama that can waste your time. But with that said, I was a beginner and I managed to fuck this girl who had a bf a few times where I told her to come to my place, so we could talk about our situation. She kept telling me she was going to leave her bf, but when her bf found out she was cheating, she choose him because they have "history". I became needy and that pushed her away even more. I was really confused because she told me she's not sure about the relationship, and afterwards I remember reading Chase's article that a girl may cheat on her bf as a way to get his attention and that's when I finally get it. Today, I'm very glad she choose him because that would have put my seduction path on hold and I wouldn't be the guy I am today.

Go after her if you want, but don't say we didn't warn you how it might go down. With girls who have a bf, you cannot act like her bf. That was how I slept with that girl. Be the lover and don't compete with her bf, but that frame is now hard to change because she sees you more as a potential bf now.

 

[Aominona]

A girl who is in love doesn't go after other guys. She's got a BF but she is not sure about that relationship. Sometimes girls are trying to get another guys involved, to prove herself that the current BF worths it, how jealous he gets once he finds out, to make him "move faster with sex" because now she makes it seem that he's got competition, or simply she wants to make sure that her BF is the best guy she chosed. She could even flirt knowing that the other guy doesn't have much chances. Weird stuff, I guess she is simply exercising abundance mentality.

That is very true. I have personally experienced this once, and that really put me off going after girls who have a bf. There is a lot of emotional drama that can waste your time. But with that said, I was a beginner and I managed to fuck this girl who had a bf a few times where I told her to come to my place, so we could talk about our situation. She kept telling me she was going to leave her bf, but when her bf found out she was cheating, she choose him because they have "history". I became needy and that pushed her away even more. I was really confused because she told me she's not sure about the relationship, and afterwards I remember reading Chase's article that a girl may cheat on her bf as a way to get his attention and that's when I finally get it. Today, I'm very glad she choose him because that would have put my seduction path on hold and I wouldn't be the guy I am today.

Go after her if you want, but don't say we didn't warn you how it might go down. With girls who have a bf, you cannot act like her bf. That was how I slept with that girl. Be the lover and don't compete with her bf, but that frame is now hard to change because she sees you more as a potential bf now.

As of now I have not talked to her for a couple days now even though she told me that it was hard for her and that she's always looking at her phone expecting a text or call from me. Before we stopped talking she told me that she was out with her BF and it didn't feel right she wasn't into it. But since then i have not spoke to her because i told her clearly that I'm not interested in being friends. I know what's at risk if i continue to pursue her i get that, but i do feel something for her and i want to do it the right way.

 

[Aominona]

She always offers me a ride to school since she found out that we live so close together and have the same class
>>>> you should have kissed her in the car, couple of days ego, even push for sex. She told you you are attractive. She offered you rides (so you can be together). Those were really good signs.

A girl who is in love doesn't go after other guys. She's got a BF but she is not sure about that relationship. Sometimes girls are trying to get another guys involved, to prove herself that the current BF worths it, how jealous he gets once he finds out, to make him "move faster with sex" because now she makes it seem that he's got competition, or simply she wants to make sure that her BF is the best guy she chosed. She could even flirt knowing that the other guy doesn't have much chances. Weird stuff, I guess she is simply exercising abundance mentality.

Yesterday she told you she couldn't do this and she would like you to be a friend.
>>>> that's a bad sign, in her mind you are already orbiting in a friend zone. She sees you as a friend, not as a lover. IMO if you keep going after her she will just be repeating that you are just friends...

She is thinking too much and lots of things are going through her head, only God knows....
>>>> that is not good either. She is comparing her BF to you. I mean, you could win the comparison, but whatever she comes up in her mind she will only justify it. So if you are losing already, she will just justify in her head why. IMO she's already made her decision.

The way I see it she wants to be with me but she feels like it would be wrong if she just dumped the guy right away
>>>> If she wanted to be with you she would be with you, she would already dump him. You are justifying what is she doing, you are coming up with excuses for her. Don't do that for your own benefits. Watch her actions, not what she says. She may say that she loves you, but if she is with the other guy - she is with the other guy. She is not with you. Many guys would still be waiting for this girl, they would be in love with her while patiently waiting till she dumps the other guy... The reality is that the other guy is probably fucking her already, and if not he will be soon...

Anyway, I believe that you had a decent chance just couple of days ago, but it looks like that she has decided for the other guy. If you still want to pursue further more actions are needed, a kiss here or there won't IMO do it... and if she keeps talking about being just a friend - well, friend zone it is...

I know i should have kissed her in the car and pushed further a couple days ago, i fucked up. I didn't allow her to put me in the friends zone because i made it clear to her what i wanted and she knows. She just told me that if she were to dump him it would seem wrong because they have not even been together for 1 month yet. I have not talked to her for a couple days now so i won't be put in the circle of friends to call when she needs. What more actions are you recommending if i decide to pursue ?

 

[wardog]

Do NOT pursue. Chasing a girl is a surefire way to fuck it up.
As others already suggested, i don't think you have too many options, you need to move fast now or you'll get friendzoned. I'd try to invite her to your place to watch a movie/whatever, or take her somewhere in your car and then ESCALATE.
I think this is your only chance.

Also:

Will you be able to trust a relationship with a girl who was easily stolen from her last one?

 

[Aominona]

Do NOT pursue. Chasing a girl is a surefire way to fuck it up.
As others already suggested, i don't think you have too many options, you need to move fast now or you'll get friendzoned. I'd try to invite her to your place to watch a movie/whatever, or take her somewhere in your car and then ESCALATE.
I think this is your only chance.

Also:

Will you be able to trust a relationship with a girl who was easily stolen from her last one?

Well if she hasn't got with me now and she was even feeling obligated to him then i don't think she is considered as being " easily stolen " or else i would have had her by now since the time she said she liked me more than a friend. Anyways i guess i try your above suggestion then.

 

[Franco]

Aominona,

Generally with these types of situations, sex needs to happen extremely fast for these types of things to work -- and by extremely fast I mean the day or night you meet her. You can still make things happen after the initial meet, but your chances exponentially dwindle down every time you communicate with her and nothing happens.

At this point, it looks to me like you've been "boyfriend-zoned" (not friend-zoned, which is different). By boyfriend-zoned, I mean that she sees you as too much of a quality guy, and instead of wanting to sleep with you, she wants to keep you in her back pocket in case things go awry with her boyfriend. The problem with this is that you probably had your chance to make things go "awry" by taking her to bed within a day or two of meeting her, but you didn't make it happen soon enough, and now she does not want to risk losing both you AND her boyfriend by sleeping with you.

She values you too much as a potential boyfriend in the future at this point, so she wants to keep you around without sleeping with you. Your best bet, as others have already mentioned, is to attempt to get her to see you at your place and make a move there. If you can't make it happen after one more attempt, I'd say it's time to move on.

- Franco

 

[Maxxz]

Hate to burst your bubble man, but this girl seems to me like she's just toying with you. She's only had this so called boyfriend for three weeks, and she's already developed feelings for you, but can't leave him because he was there emotionally for her? Bullcrap.

Look, my advice would be to make an hard play (the hard push). Next time you're alone, go all out. She doesn't bite, you pull back and end all contact. She contacts you again you let her know you're not looking for friends right now. Because to me it seems you've been majorly friend-zoned.

 

[Drck]

There are no tricks or advices. Simply invite her out again, and see if she goes. If she goes she is interested (enough), so keep moving forward as suggested above. If she doesn't go, well, you were already shifted out of the 'fast lover' zone, and the likelyhood that she is with her BF is high... Don't chase, move on...