@Blackheart,
You seem to have diagnosed yourself already:
Only and only reason why women really don’t like is because I am considered as "good guy". I am not that good, and don’t supplicate much but simply due to my vibe from the time women look at me/or start talking with me they slot me in this category.
Here's the prescription for that diagnosis:
If you've paid much attention to the men that women gravitate towards, they're pretty much all assholes. Yeah, sure... deep down, they may actually be good guys. "An asshole with a heart of gold", for instance. But, they're still assholes. If you yourself are not an asshole though, adopting some...
www.girlschase.com
Every "overly good" guy who tries to leapfrog going through the asshole phase has what you're having happen to you happen to him.
I went through a phase myself where I was constantly telling myself "I'm a bad, bad man." I intentionally did all kinds of stuff aimed at making girls think I was a bad boy (probably a badder boy than I really am). Every time some girl would accuse me of being a bad boy I would laugh and chuckle to myself ("It's working!").
Even today I think of myself as a scoundrel with a heart of gold. I don't want anyone calling me a "good guy" until she already knows me very, very well... e.g., after I've been nailing her three months, she can tell me, "You know what? You're actually a really good guy," and then I will sort of grudgingly accept that remark. Until then she can keep saying, "I can't BELIEVE I am with an asshole like you!" and I will just chuckle. Even if we date for a few years and she sometimes says I am a "really good guy" she is still going to be calling me a jerk and an asshole plenty, because I mean I kind of am. I learned to be it.
Women don't want a totally good guy. No guy is totally good, and if you seem to be really good, they can't trust you. They know they themselves are not pure goody-two-shoes princesses; and they know if all they see is "goodness" from you, it's a false front.
You can trust the asshole. He's being up front with you. Good guys are shady.
On perceptions of women:
@Phoenix's thoughts on women in this passage are actually pretty close to my own, I just don't talk about 'respect' in regards to women because respect is a male virtue/quality and I don't see it as applicable to women:
idk just comes with experience. i dont have any respect for them. if a girl is nice to me i will be nice to her but when she fires up her bullshit talk i just go game mode and think "okay she wants to play this game let's play this game" and i only focus on getting the pussy and ghosting her. make sure you start an audio recording in case she gives you a false rape accusation.
i guess what i am saying is that i dont have respect for women and i dont take the serious so i am not shocked when they change their mind back and forth. i just take it easy and see what happens. it isnt personal just what she is feeling right now. sometimes it works with you sometimes it works against you.
the reason i have no respect for women is because i dont have respect for people who want privileges but not responsibility, who say one thing then do another. if you had the same standard for women that you have for men, you would see what i am talking about.
anyways, im not a butthurt incel, just telling it how it is. deep down the only thing that drives you with a given girl is the hope of getting your dick inside her. you don't fret over ugly girls. they dont make you lose your mind. only the hot girls because you are gambling to get their pussy. so let's stop pretending otherwise.
Yeah, see, a woman talking about how she wants to be "Respected by men!" or what have you is a silly and cute thing to me, because respect is a male thing. It is kind of funny and goofy that she got it into her head that she should be treated like a man. Like a little kid saying, "I want to be an astronaut and go to the center of the sun!" Like it is kind of cute and silly and funny and a bit endearing, because you know he is not going to go to the center of the sun, and he is probably going to grow up to be an accountant or an electrician or something and not an astronaut, but it is still cute that he wants that.
A lot of guys take women way, WAY too seriously. They get pissed off by all this goofy stuff women are saying.
Do you get pissed off by the filthy hobo ranting about how he's going to fly to the moon? Or the 5-year-old talking about how he's going to be king of the Earth? Then why would you care about women saying all the goofy, silly stuff they say? It is just silliness.
Men seem to resent the 'power' that women have in Western society. All that power was given to them by other men. If other men stopped giving them that power, the power would evaporate. It looks like the women are 'doing things', but it is only because other men are supporting/enabling it. Anyone you support or enable will do all kinds of ridiculous things until your support/enablement ends.
Yeah honestly that whole "silly and cute" mantra that Chase tries to preach to get us to overlook women's behavior is a gross exageration/oversimplification and doesn't even fit the bill. At some point we just have to call some of women's behavior for what it is ridicuolous and absurd. Girls posts booty and titty pics online for attention and clout and get mad at men and accuses them of objectifying and sexualizing her. Or they're attracted to masculine behavior,but actively try their best to discourage it amongst men today and give misleading advice to young men today like be friends first or be a nice guy. Or they will flake and ghost guys all the time and when it happens to them they get upset and black the fuck out. These are just a few examples.
If the girl is getting angry at the effects of her own ludicrous behavior, then yes, I agree that you can just call out as absurd.
If I have some woman ranting at me over some inanity, I am not going to call that 'cute', although I might tell her she is being 'silly', unless she really goes off the deep end, at which point I will call her absurd, or tell her she's making no sense, or tell her to come back down to reality.
Girls telling guys to be friends first or a nice guy are just showing their own lack of self-awareness, which is silly. Guys listening to girls give them advice on girls is kind of silly too. The whole thing, girls giving guys dating advice, and guys listening to it, is rather ridiculous. Every now and then I will come across some site online where girls are giving guys stupid advice and guys are lapping it up and praising the girls for it and I am like "Well this whole site is just goofy."
Girls flaking then getting upset when flaked back on is more low self-awareness behavior, which is going to aggravate you if you care about the outcome with that girl, but just makes her look like a silly goof with a clown nose on if you don't.
The thing with Chase and high level guys on this forums.
And Everyone, please also understand this.
When they share ideas, it can be seen as generalization, 'blanket answers' and often a criticism. This is because from an analogy standpoint, they are making points from level 10 floor.
And most of us in this forums. We are not there yet. We are at level 3 floor. And for a lot of guys who are not in Girlschase, they are like MINUS 10 floor, literally deep in the grave sand.
The challenge is it is very difficult to accurately communicate a mindset in a way that another person intuitively gets.
For instance, I would never say I don't respect women, like Phoenix does. Instead, I simply
do not talk about respect in any way related to women. I might tell a woman, "Well, I will respect your decision, then," but even then I am saying it half in amusement because I know she is going to need to check with me for validation in some way to understand if she is making the correct call, assuming I have successfully caused her to doubt herself (which I will, if she is "making some decision" I don't agree with).
But when I read Phoenix's comment, some of the language of it aside, I think, "Yeah, that sounds more or less like me."
The whole Western thing with women trying to be like men is rather silly and absurd. I think it's hard for guys to often view it that way, because it is so in their faces and they are consuming all this media that bombards them with it constantly and their social and professional lives are structured in such a way that these bossy women are around them in essentially masculine roles. So they see women doing all this absurd stuff and it feels like a threat and they can't understand why women are occupying masculine roles while still having their same inconstant female behavior, which is maddening to deal with in a role where you should be dealing with a logical, constant presence.
The best thing you can do is remove yourself from media and real life situations where women are artificially put into masculine roles over you, where their inconstancy, illogic, and unaccountability can actually affect you, so that you are only dealing with them in romantic contexts, where hopefully you have a lot of choice, and them being flakey and girly and irrational and silly doesn't affect you in any other way and you can just laugh at it as goofy cute silliness.
Chase
in the next few years. And I want to be able to get to where I am able to express my idea. Here's the thing: We can't bitch about the world is melting down and then have this 'Rules for me, Not for thee'.
