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jesslee09

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People don't respect you if you are unnecessarily nice to them. Applicable to both genders; an example.

Before I can give the example I want to share with you guys, I need to give you a little information about my native tongue. I am Indian. Hindi is my native language. There are two ways people address you in Hindi. One is when you are addressing someone who is your equal or younger than you, for example "tum" meaning "you". Whereas when you address someone who is your elder, your teacher or anyone who you would want to address with some respect, you'd not use "tum" here but "aap". Both of these words mean the same thing, that is, "you" but their usage is different. This goes for a lot of stuff. Even verbs. "Tum ye karo" and "Aap ye kariye", both mean "You do this" but you'd say the latter to someone who you want to show a little respect (Which we should to strangers!)

I hope that's clear so let me give my anecdote. I joined the gym roughly 4 months ago. I am 28 and have some fat I need to get rid of. There is a guy there who is not actually a trainer, I guess you could say he's a "busboy" of sorts, rearranging weights, putting them back on the rack, helping someone with his bench press etc, you get the gist. When I joined the gym, as is my nature, I treated him with respect as well. I'd use "aap" instead of "tum" and shook his hands when I met him. Slowly I started to notice that he became \*too\* friendly with me, like, talking to me as if I am his pupil or something. Doing gym for the first time in my life, I had trouble with the barbell curls and he'd say "Dum lagao..kya khaate ho" (Push it, do it, what do you even eat) and general berating stuff making me feel I am too weak. Point to note here is that he used the "tum" version of words instead of "aap". Whereas others were treating him with a lot of rough words, basically, treating him as a busboy. And guess what? He always addressed them with deference and respect. So I am the one who is being nice to him and he chooses to be nice to those who treat him like his inferior.

So, I changed my behaviour like a switch. Overnight. I started being dry and straightforward, not "deigning" to acknowledge his presence until I needed something like a dumbell. When he'd then stay stuff like "Try harder etc", I would look straight into his eyes but say nothing. Guess what? Now he has stopped addressing me as he did and has become much more soft spoken and does not pass any comments to me about my abilities.

I know it's not a huge eye-opening example of the generalized red pill principles, but for me, it was and, I believe the same principle applies in all the human interactions.

Do nice things for people but don't "be" unnecessarily nice to people. They should feel that they need to earn your respect and it's not something you'd give out to everyone. Only then will people respect you. I wish the dynamics weren't like that but like they say: it really do be like that sometimes.
 

DarkKnight

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Re: How to treat people with respect when some people take that as a sign of wea

I don't agree. That guy was probably a social ladder climber. He needed the validation, when you stopped acknowledging him you hurt his self esteem since it was already low.

I have found that people can be like mirrors. They interpret your behaviour as they would interpret it when they are doing it themselves.

I think it is healthier to think of it as rewarding good behaviour and punishing bad behaviour. But sacrificing your friendliness is unnecessary. At least not immediately at the preliminary fases of interaction. Ofcourse the moment you notice someone misbehaving you have to act. People can get cocky when they think you tolerate abuse, especially dumb people.
 
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Re: How to treat people with respect when some people take that as a sign of wea

great job

that said - different profiles needs different communication styles

what youre describing is the wall tactic for bulldozer types. works well with bullodzers. but is less efficient w other "difficult profiles" and might have bad effects on nondifficult people due to the dark energy of it.

jesslee09 said:
Do nice things for people but don't "be" unnecessarily nice to people. They should feel that they need to earn your respect and it's not something you'd give out to everyone. Only then will people respect you. I wish the dynamics weren't like that but like they say: it really do be like that sometimes.

this is way to black and white imo.

what i do is i keep decency as a huge thing in my life. that said, i give it from a base of strength.
how people respond just makes me rate them and choose whether or not to spend any time w them. Many hot girls i dont spend a second on due to this. Pussy is easy, i choose which girls i go for. And i screen them on character - i look into their genuine sides and especially looking for things like decency and kindness

if aguy harrass me or play big boy like the guy you experience i dont even see them anymore,
Theyre sorta irrelevant to me due to their odd brutal energy and needs to show themselves off.
when you ignore them like theyre little flies they have no idea how to respond.
it takes some training but once your system gets there they loose all power.
its like how a cat would look at something and then move on to look at something else totally unimpressed by the objekt or person.
but this comes from within. its not a reation you can create.

its an underlying mindset of what is worth my time and focus in life. Like my time is for quality people and decent people only. Once you live this way and raditate this - the world will change around you immensely.
Ofc. you know that cetain environments and insecurities of people make them tumble around. and maybe you give them a chance.
and yorue ready to handle if people step over boundaries but thats only when/if they get physical or you need to show teeth.

this demands weight in your being, backbone. its development of character.
 

trashKENNUT

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Re: How to treat people with respect when some people take that as a sign of wea

You're Hindi.

Ar in asia, this bullshit hierarchy is very nuance.. :) Take the fundamental lessons from Girlschase but adjust accordingly until you know how. Every culture is different. Tread carefully because it's a quicksand.

Always remember that "God" don't exist. What i mean is that the moment you believe the word "respect", especially in Asia, you get eaten alive. So "God", "Culture" is bullshit. So, don't operate from it. Recognize it but don't operate from it

Zac
 
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