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Hello Playboys,
In this crazy covid-19 time 2/3 girls in my rotation are now unreachable but I've been regularly seeing one during lockdown and it made me think. Wow I'm glad I had built the foundations as there are a lot of guys who've gone from 1 to 0 or just 0 with a lower chance of getting to 1.
Thought I'd write a mini-guide to help anyone reading this consistently keep girls around as I think a lot of guys just want consistent easy get sex and don't really care for constant approaches, swiping or rejections. They just want their base level needs met with pretty girl(s) so they can focus on other things. I could be wrong (I doubt it) but that's a debate for another time:
As a base level for this work here are some non-negotiable things needed:
1. Your own place to bring girls to (having house mates is fine)
2. Live in an area that has a big enough population for you to always be able to bring new women into your life.
Cities are best but a college town is doable but not optimal as your dating options fluctuate more throughout the year.
An understanding of simple relationship models, I'll give a quick summary but the blackdragon 2.0 blog has a lot more detail:
FB - A casual relationship where you see each other 1x a week for sex and don't do much else
MLTR - A girl that's like an FB but you can also do more cute boyfriend stuff like dinners and dates. Can also meet 2-3x a week if you'd like.
When I meet a girl I keep her as a FB for 3 months or so, then depending on how she reacts and how much I like her, I move her to MLTR. A lot of times girls eventually leave me after 6 months or so (used to be disastrously lower but I fixed it and will show how) when they move away or realise I wouldn't get monogamous BUT the great thing with this model is depending on how you handle the "ending" these girls can come back to you after getting boyfriends.
Phase 1 > Sleeping With Her > Little To No Contact
Phase 2 > FB Stage > Still minimum contact
Phase 3 > MLTR Growth & Progression > Contact steadily more
The frame you need to pull this off
Conclusion
Phase 1 -2 should take a minimum of 3 months otherwise you're breaking the rules somewhere. Where the game and dance really kicks in is 3 months+ where you start giving her more investment and she feels like you guys are getting closer and progressing. This is the OPPOSITE of most guys who dive in all guns blazing then fizzle out. Even if you want a monogamous girlfriend I would still do things this way as she feels like she's EARNED you which is never a bad thing.
For guys like me who like rotations you accept that anything after 3 months is a good run and when one girl drops off you go out into the world and bring another one in to your life With this method I've had 3 girls in rotation for over a year now with 1 being the same girl and the 2 spaces chopping and changing. On top of that I've been sleeping with new girls here and there (a new girl every 1 - 2 months) along with old girls re-surfacing which makes for a very satisfying and more importantly for me LOW MAINTENANCE sex life.
Happy to answer any questions
Stay safe and have a good weekend everyone.
-DWW
In this crazy covid-19 time 2/3 girls in my rotation are now unreachable but I've been regularly seeing one during lockdown and it made me think. Wow I'm glad I had built the foundations as there are a lot of guys who've gone from 1 to 0 or just 0 with a lower chance of getting to 1.
Thought I'd write a mini-guide to help anyone reading this consistently keep girls around as I think a lot of guys just want consistent easy get sex and don't really care for constant approaches, swiping or rejections. They just want their base level needs met with pretty girl(s) so they can focus on other things. I could be wrong (I doubt it) but that's a debate for another time:
As a base level for this work here are some non-negotiable things needed:
1. Your own place to bring girls to (having house mates is fine)
2. Live in an area that has a big enough population for you to always be able to bring new women into your life.
Cities are best but a college town is doable but not optimal as your dating options fluctuate more throughout the year.
An understanding of simple relationship models, I'll give a quick summary but the blackdragon 2.0 blog has a lot more detail:
FB - A casual relationship where you see each other 1x a week for sex and don't do much else
MLTR - A girl that's like an FB but you can also do more cute boyfriend stuff like dinners and dates. Can also meet 2-3x a week if you'd like.
When I meet a girl I keep her as a FB for 3 months or so, then depending on how she reacts and how much I like her, I move her to MLTR. A lot of times girls eventually leave me after 6 months or so (used to be disastrously lower but I fixed it and will show how) when they move away or realise I wouldn't get monogamous BUT the great thing with this model is depending on how you handle the "ending" these girls can come back to you after getting boyfriends.
Phase 1 > Sleeping With Her > Little To No Contact
- During this phase you want to text her x1 a week only for logistics and meeting up. For those of you who do online once you've got her number you keep "rapport" game to a minimum and just get her out to see you
- Between dates you text her something warm to say you enjoyed seeing her and mention a private joke or something really specific she mentioned on the date with you. E.g. "Have a great week Burrito
" because she mentioned how she loves them when she's hungover. This is a polite way of cutting the conversation but doing so in a way that lets her know that you're invested in her but busy and not much of a texter- For bonus points you can even have a spiel on the date about how everyone's glued to their phone these days, you aren't a texter and more of a in person kind of guy. She'll likely agree with you to not look needy & this way she can't complain later because you have been congruent throughout
- *DON'T GET TEMPTED TO CONTACT HER LOADS*. No funny memes, Calls, GIFS all that shit is kept to 0. Exercise self-control , all of that will come later and you'll be glad you did it this way
- The only rule you can break is when trying to sleeping with her 2x in a row. Which is typically how many times you need to sleep with a girl so that it's easy and straightforward from there on in - you can see her twice in a week to not lose momentum. Once that's done however keep it strictly to once a week.
Phase 2 > FB Stage > Still minimum contact
- This is the bit that guys love and girls struggle to stay in for very long - the blissful FB stage, all you have to do here is be a fun guy, give her a good time in the bedroom and generally be low maintenance. That's genuinely all it takes to stand out these days lol.
- Some really easy ways to stand out and keep her around?
- Don't be needy, texting her just for logistics will have this covered
- Don't get weird and overbearing when she talks about nights out or other guys - let her know you're glad she had fun & laugh at how weird guys can be
- Have good conversations where you listen more than you speak and you're genuinely curious about who she is free of judgement
- Always see her looking good. Bare minimum is freshly showered with a nice cologne on - it's laughable that this makes you stand out but the standards are really that low
- What will then happen is:
- A) She likes the set up for whatever reason and life goes - which does happen more times than you think... I had a strict FB for like 8 months that only ended as she went back to her home country
- B) She wants more investment from you. She'll start making subtle or not so subtle hints about how you never text her, why she only sees you once a week or why all you two ever do is hang around at your place. Depending on the girl this happens 3 - 6 months in but I have had some 1 month ones lol.
Phase 3 > MLTR Growth & Progression > Contact steadily more
- From here how you handle her concerns will determine whether you keep a short fling for 3 months or a get a girl to be really into you for 6 months to a year+ (my current record is approaching 2 years)
- If the girl isn't someone you're willing to invest more time into, tell her you'll be sorry to see her go but you aren't in a position to give her what she wants and if she needs to go you'll be sad but you will understand > if she likes you enough she'll back track or leave but potentially come back 6-8 months down the line
- Always good to be a gent about it - I'm a firm believer in leaving people better than you found them.
- If it's a girl you're willing to invest in then all you do is *SLOWLY* invest in her more. E.g. instead of texting her once a week it's now 2x just to see how she's doing as you already have a meetup in the diary. Another example is going out for drinks with her somewhere cute before you sleep with her.
- The best thing about doing the bare minimum in the beginning any increase in investment now looks incredible to her. I've had girls say "you've made my day" literally because I sent her a song recommendation and said it reminded me of her. Shit is truly powerful.
- What you're then doing is giving her a "boyfriend lite" experience that she really likes, without any of the drama and the only complaint of her not seeing you enough which makes her back rationalize that if that's the only problem she must really like you and therefore self loops to her investing in you more
The frame you need to pull this off
- "This is who I am, it's not for everybody, and if you decide it's not for you, I'll be sorry to see you go... but I understand"
- Common shit tests you get include: "that's weird" and "you can't be THAT busy" as well as her lowkey getting turned on & calling you "mysterious"
- Girls are used to guys either buckling under the pressure and investing too much which turns her off, or heartless players who say "I don't care" which blows up into a "you only care about sex and you're selfish" dancing that fine line between liking her but not needing her is crucial
- The reason why this frame is so powerful is because the girl is now faced with a hard choice. Am I really going to walk away from a guy who I really like and who really likes me because he doesn't text me everyday? It makes her 2nd guess herself that she's overreacting without you doing anything
- Now once you're investing in her *STEADILY* whenever she complains for more investment more quickly you want to say you know "his really isn't me and I'm not used to this. How've you got me doing these things is beyond me but I'm actually liking it with you and it's not a chore. Can I just have patience from you?" Use something like that in your own words.
- Another key to keep this alive is never fully cut out the possibility of you being exclusive in the 1st 6 months otherwise she'll cut her losses and move on. You always want to keep it vague and say "I'd be open to it for the right person" you just feel no need to rush and feel that people can't be alone and cling to anyone - to which she'll say that's true to not look needy.
Conclusion
Phase 1 -2 should take a minimum of 3 months otherwise you're breaking the rules somewhere. Where the game and dance really kicks in is 3 months+ where you start giving her more investment and she feels like you guys are getting closer and progressing. This is the OPPOSITE of most guys who dive in all guns blazing then fizzle out. Even if you want a monogamous girlfriend I would still do things this way as she feels like she's EARNED you which is never a bad thing.
For guys like me who like rotations you accept that anything after 3 months is a good run and when one girl drops off you go out into the world and bring another one in to your life With this method I've had 3 girls in rotation for over a year now with 1 being the same girl and the 2 spaces chopping and changing. On top of that I've been sleeping with new girls here and there (a new girl every 1 - 2 months) along with old girls re-surfacing which makes for a very satisfying and more importantly for me LOW MAINTENANCE sex life.
Happy to answer any questions
Stay safe and have a good weekend everyone.
-DWW
