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I do not know from where you get all this lavish theories haha . Auto rejection happens quite often , especially as you improve in a lot of areas of your life .

You think that a girl can not make the difference between a guy who is bad or good with girls ? haha

Then you need to learn what to do in order for them not to auto reject :p

Maybe you mastered already how not to make girls auto reject , and things are so natural to you that basically you do not even think anymore what you are doing in this regards :D
Ha, nah I wish, it's more than auto rejection is, as far as I understand it, when the girl thinks you are too good for her and won't date you. That's definitely something I have never gotten, it's always the opposite that she thinks I'm not good enough for her by her standards of value. I also rarely see it happening in general for my wings, though as well.
But I don't want to derail the thread this is kind of a tangent.
 

BigPapa

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Ha, nah I wish, it's more than auto rejection is, as far as I understand it, when the girl thinks you are too good for her and won't date you. That's definitely something I have never gotten, it's always the opposite that she thinks I'm not good enough for her by her standards of value. I also rarely see it happening in general for my wings, though as well.

If some things do not happen to you , it does not mean that they do not happen to other guys , and that they are not real :p
 

Tim Iron

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Ha, nah I wish, it's more than auto rejection is, as far as I understand it, when the girl thinks you are too good for her and won't date you. That's definitely something I have never gotten, it's always the opposite that she thinks I'm not good enough for her by her standards of value. I also rarely see it happening in general for my wings, though as well.
But I don't want to derail the thread this is kind of a tangent.

Basically you are NOT sexy enough and you have some boyfriend qualities (e.g. a good job), that is a common reason why women reject guys that move fast (and are using some of the techniques here).

You need to be a sexy guy that has little or no boyfriend qualities (a lover) to fly under women's radar (of trying to get a relationship from you).
 

BigPapa

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Basically you are NOT sexy enough and you have some boyfriend qualities (e.g. a good job), that is a common reason why women reject guys that move fast (and are using some of the techniques here).

You need to be a sexy guy that has little or no boyfriend qualities (a lover) to fly under women's radar (of trying to get a relationship from you).

In theory you are right , in reality depends a lot on how your lifestyle is & the demographic of that girl in particular :)

Girls that have a lifestyle more or less like you , will see you more as a lover from the get go ( if you do not show too many boyfriend traits ) , while others that are not even remotely close to your lifestyle more or less will play the game very tight if you show even the slightest idea that you can be a boyfriend .

At least this is what my experience is at the moment.

When travelling or dealing with tourists you do not really deal with this because they are only interested in your lover qualities . Most of the times you can show a lot of boyfriend qualities ( your lover vibe needs to be stronger though) , but she will still see you as a lover because she knows that 2 can not have a relationship no matter what.
 

ljrozz69

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In theory you are right , in reality depends a lot on how your lifestyle is & the demographic of that girl in particular :)

Girls that have a lifestyle more or less like you , will see you more as a lover from the get go ( if you do not show too many boyfriend traits ) , while others that are not even remotely close to your lifestyle more or less will play the game very tight if you show even the slightest idea that you can be a boyfriend .

At least this is what my experience is at the moment.

When travelling or dealing with tourists you do not really deal with this because they are only interested in your lover qualities . Most of the times you can show a lot of boyfriend qualities ( your lover vibe needs to be stronger though) , but she will still see you as a lover because she knows that 2 can not have a relationship no matter what.
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Basically you are NOT sexy enough and you have some boyfriend qualities (e.g. a good job), that is a common reason why women reject guys that move fast (and are using some of the techniques here).

You need to be a sexy guy that has little or no boyfriend qualities (a lover) to fly under women's radar (of trying to get a relationship from you).
Being sexy is not a need -it just makes things easier; non sexy ppl can still get laid-. Having qualities that women could seek in a relationship doesnt harm your lover frame unless you have uncommon qualities for a specific girl and she starts labelling you.

In any case, what matters is frame control. Keeping on your lover frame -conveying that you are exchanging sex for sex and no commitment- is what you want to do if you want the girl to avoid slowing down the seduction process.

That being said, I don't know how this relates to @Tank 's issues or this thread.
I suggest that @Tank starts his own thread if he wants advice.

Klimax
 
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Tim Iron

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Being sexy is not a need -it just makes things easier; non sexy ppl can still get laid-. Having qualities that women could seek in a relationship doesnt harm your lover frame unless you have uncommon qualities for a specific girl and she starts labelling you.

In any case, what matters is frame control. Keeping on your lover frame -conveying that you are exchanging sex for sex and no commitment- is what you want to do if you want the girl to avoid slowing down the seduction process.

That being said, I don't know how this relates to @Tank 's issues or this thread.
I suggest that @Tank starts his own thread if he wants advice.

Klimax
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Being sexy is not a need -it just makes things easier; non sexy ppl can still get laid-. Having qualities that women could seek in a relationship doesnt harm your lover frame unless you have uncommon qualities for a specific girl and she starts labelling you.

In any case, what matters is frame control. Keeping on your lover frame -conveying that you are exchanging sex for sex and no commitment- is what you want to do if you want the girl to avoid slowing down the seduction process.

That being said, I don't know how this relates to @Tank 's issues or this thread.
I suggest that @Tank starts his own thread if he wants advice.

Klimax

Being sexy is actually a need. It is the fundamentals (body, voice, fashion and in some cases "social") that we talk about. An overweight and awkward nerd would struggle with average and cute girls when compared to a guy who has handled his fundamentals. Improving your "sexyness" gets you a lot more interest from girls when you approach.

Showing too much boyfriend qualities early on strengthens her frame to slow down the seduction process (if she is single) .

For newbies that are reading, work on improving and maintaining your fundamentals (this is very important) - it makes everything easier and less "gamey" (pua tricks).
 
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ljrozz69

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My point is that being sexy =/= being able to get laid. One can be sexy but not able to get laid as one may not know how to deal with wildcards, resistance, bad logistics etc... On the other hand one can be not specially sexy -different from being disgusting- and still be able to get laid by recognizing ovulating girls, have decent logistics and know how to move them fast.

Showing too much boyfriend qualities early on strengthens her frame to slow down the seduction process (if she is single) .
I agree, if you proactively display "boyfriend qualities " -that are not universal- you are showing that what you want is a relationship. This is exactly what I meant by frame control in my last post.

Now you must be aware that having those qualities isnt the same as purposely displaying them, if she finds out by her self, your frame isnt weakened.

Hope this clarifies,
Klimax

Ps: I think we derailed this thread... :(
 
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