I have three questions.

[Avalanche]

1. What do women want from men?
2. Does a woman's perspective on a man changes with her age?
3. Do women really care about men?

Hope my wise friends could give me an answer.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Avalanche,

1)Friends, Lovers, Providers. (Chase said it perfectly.)

2)Chase noted this as three stages. Naive > Delusional > Accepting/Mellow/Temperate (You become more chill as you grow older/wiser and most of the time, you can become a retard to your younglings because you forget you were young and do the same thing.)

3)No. Men do not care about women either. It's hard to describe it. There is care at surface level, always but no. It is difficult to actually explain it. It's a survival mechanics kind of thing.

Zac

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

1)Friends, Lovers, Providers. Fullstop. Chase said it perfectly.

Zac,

What is fullstop. I haven't here this term before.

2. Does a woman's perspective on a man changes with her age?

These are rough age groups and can be extended by some ladies.
Puberty to 25 - Girls just wanta have fun (Sex) Men are lovers.
18 to 45 - Women want to have babies. Men are providers. They still need lovers so their provider better be the lover also or she will find it elsewhere.
45 to death - After the kids are grown women want to have fun (sex). Men are lovers. If they are not financially independent then they still need a provider. Yes your grandmother still wants to have sex. haha

BDSC

 

[trashKENNUT]

BDSC,

Zac,

What is fullstop. I haven't here this term before.

Was caught up in momentum. The "fullstop" means "."

Zac

 

[Drck]

Good answers above, my 2 cents:

1. What do women want from men?
>>>> To be a man. A guy who acts like man, who behave like man. She is not looking for a child, for immature boy. She is looking for a guy who knows what is he doing, who has a life to live for, who have some believes and follows them regardless of what others believe. A guy who she can love, who she can feel comfortable with in intimate situations. A guy who's got good fundamentals, who can have lots of feminine energy yet still have plenty of masculine energy.

2. Does a woman's perspective on a man changes with her age?
>>>> Yes. Late teens and early 20's, she's just looking for fun, for sexual experience, perhaps silliness. 25 up, she is planning a life, she's looking more for a provider - a guy who can take care of her and her child. Many even good women are looking for guy who has good income. Late 30's, 40 and up: She's grown woman. So what else is there in life except boring husband who can't get it up, and blue pill doesn't help? she's asking herself. Let's try some flirting with other guys. Wow, that is so exciting, she says, I love flirting, she says. Why not try something else, little fling here and there...??

I knew a girl who was 24, she was just fucking around, but she already had her firm plan: She will get married by 27-28 and have a child year later with a guy who makes good money. She wasn't dumb, she was smart and highly educated, therefore she hanged around those guys. So what happens is, she had this "image" of a guy in her brain, she meets such guy who "fits" into this image... she opens her legs and he gets her without any seduction skills... Did she get such guy? You bet. He is not stupid either, he is not great seducer, he is just an average guy - who fit her "Image" without doing anything other than any other guy next to him...

Let's don't lie about it, there are good guys with money, and good guys without money. In general, smart girl is simply looking for a good guy with money because, well because she is not stupid. Woman do have a screening process, basically it is as if they assign a score to each guy, and who gets a biggest score wins... So if there are two 'equal' guys and one of them have more money - you can pretty much bet 100% that that one will be the "lucky" one who she opens to, and if not, well, she is just not the smartest one...

There is an easy way to test this: Say you start going out with a girl 25+, she knows that you have money, and she expect you to be a provider (that's her normal mind set, she simply has that image in her mind). Ok, maybe for a date or two she thinks you will be a great provider, there is the common scenario: You will fall in love with her and you will be providing for her, paying and taking care of her and her child. But then you let her know that there is no way you will be providing, say on date 3. You may get lots of different responses. She may dump you on the spot. She will get pissed at you, text you and call you different names. She may not talk to you for months, or never. She will be totally shocked by your "new" attitude (as she simply expected that you have money = you want to provide for her)... She may also come back even after months, playing "hurt" and looking for explanation. Well, there is only one explanation: No providing at all. So she may simply decide, that since you are not a provider, she will at least just fuck you for fun... Try it, let me know, LOL

3. Do women really care about men?
>>>> Yes, but probably not the way you think. Common perception most likely is, that she either loves you or she is a calculating bitch, gold digger. But it is not so black and white, many times it is both. She may truly love you but at the same time her calculator is working 100%. She makes the guy fall in love with her, and she loves him too, however, that may change after couple of years. Say the girl above, she was looking for a provider like that - so she finds him, and she fells in true love with him. They get married, have a child or two... but then she grows apart after couple of years. Children get older, and now she can dump this guy fairly easily, with no regrets, like cold, heartless bitch....

Story continues: She will get his house, he will pay child support and alimony. It's because she "couldn't work" as she was home taking care of his children. She lost many years of her "productive life" while staying home with children - DUH! That's why he has to pay more now, she can't get a job now because she has no experince... Well, only stupid guys don't get it. He will most likely be blamed as the reason of their break up (while the opposite is true). After all, he was always at work making money for the whole family - and thus didn't have time for his family, she was home alone. DUH! Another great reason to dump him. He will eventually feel sorry and guilty, he will be looking for things that he did wrong (there may be some, but it could just be insignificant/common things), he will be getting depressed because she will make it seem that he did everything wrong, he will be stripped off of all of his money, his friends and family will distance themselves from him because she will portray him as a bad person... Did I mention that this cute and sweet girl started on antidepressants - just because of him? If not, well, look up how many women are popping these pills. So what will she, this poor and sweet/innocent girl do? She will be fucking another guy in no time. In a week? One month? Ok, 6 months? That is only assuming that she wasn't fucking any other guy while she was still in "relationship", all this behind her hubby's back... By the time the guy realizes what is even going on, it is simply too late, he is already the villain, dumped and feeling miserable about himself, and feeling sorry for her too...

I'm not saying that this is happening all the time, but this is simply happening TOO MANY TIMES, and there is just no way that it is a coincidence. It may not happen to you but if you look around and ask your friends - I wouldn't be surprised at all if you find many stories just like that from your close friends...


Beware brothers, beware...

 

[Avalanche]

Thanks fellas, but the answer to the third one sounds pretty scary.

 

[Rusty]

While I think some of the opinions expressed here are a bit bleak, to say the least, I can understand where it emanates from. The vast majority of women are unexceptional. That happens to include a lot of beautiful women. And said beautiful women actually detract from most men's lives without adding any real value.

I've always understood that physical beauty has some sort of value (because it makes you excited, it gives you good feelings, you're attracted to her because of her looks,) but it's a very depreciative and surface level value. It won't make you happy, and a woman who is beautiful does not guarantee that she has other desirable qualities (although as humans, we are biased towards attributing positive traits to people we find physically attractive, and not necessarily based on actual evidence of those qualities)

But beyond that, I do believe if you have high level goals, and you're super ambitious, you're going to have a heck of a time finding a very exceptional woman because your standards will be so high. And if you're trying to achieve those goals and you have a very ambitious mission or purpose, any woman who doesn't support your vision or share your passion will detract from your efforts.

But I cannot agree that even most women are acting purely selfishly. We are all selfish. But we can also be selfless and live in ways that benefit ourselves and others without hurting or manipulating people. It's more common to find people with a "dog-eat-dog" mentality, sure. But that's because most people live in scarcity and fear and their sense of self-preservation overrides their morals or their values and ultimately it's about looking out for yourself and no one else.

We're all entitled to our opinions, but I think fostering these sorts of beliefs about women and making very large, sweeping generalizations can be a slippery slope, even if they indicative of patterns of thinking in women or ways of being. I still give women the benefit of the doubt whenever I interact with them. I reserve my evaluations until I really get to know them.

What I've learned is that if you maintain your boundaries and you project your values and live your life in a way that you find meaningful and fulfilling, you will naturally screen out the women that aren't a match for you and you will attract the right kinds of people into your life. That is, if you're self-aware and you have strong boundaries about what you allow and don't allow or tolerate in your life. It's for your benefit and the benefit of the people around you.

 

[Franco]

I have to agree with Rusty here.

Chase also touches on the answer to question #3 in this post here: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11572&p=58225#p58225

- Franco

 

[trashKENNUT]

Everyone,

I noted that Chase basically implied that environment plays a part. Apparently, Chase in the past noted about the Great Depression effect and how rich people who survive operate from the same mental model years later.

I actually talk to someone here about the same thing. Here's below

Unfortunately, there's two versions of this. And I noted Chase is in your category.

1)Positive paradigm people - Gem, Chase
2)Neutrality paradigm people - Zac, DrexelScott
p.s: This is no intention of ranking here between anyone or placement, even the negative minded people. Just explain in terms.

and then there's negative minded people, which is actually just 'Keep repeating and operating from the past mental process paradigm people'.

So what makes Gem, Chase.... different from Zac and DrexelScott. The reason i put DrexelScott here is i learn that Drexel had some not so good things growing up and i had such things happen. In Chase's article on lack of abundance, he noted that people who survive the Great Depression still operate in scarcity because of what they experience.

So I can derive that you and Chase did had girls chasing you while growing up or something positive that your genetics or emotions actually value. Me and Drexel did not exactly had things that value genetically or emotionally when we are young.

Complex, it is.

Zac